No change in coivd cases and deaths after spring break and no masks wtf

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No one is testing anymore. We've received several emails about cases in my kids' schools.


Our last reported case was in February. We are now a week and a half past spring break.


Where are you?

We have a huge spike.


Fairfax County. I’m an ES teacher. We are a two teacher household and neither school has any recently reported cases.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


Which experts? The pandemic has biological and psychology/social roots and they are very much distinct. The pandemic's end will be marked by psychology, not biology. In other words, when people and society say it is over, it is over. Any intelligent person can see this.

Signed.
A psychologist (I guess not a public health "expert" caught in the pandemic of bureaucracy waiting for case counts to dictate the end of the pandemic)


You clearly aren't a very good psychologist. It over when it stabilizes to a small number of cases and doesn't cause huge outbreaks, cause high numbers of deaths and mutations. We are far from there, thanks to people like you.


The psychologist is just repeating what everyone has understood for the past two years. Pandemics are social phenomena, and they start and end when people decide that the start and end. Not when a doctor says so.

This is not new information. We have all heard this, we all know this.
Anonymous
So… 4 pages in and no one has said:

That’s great! I love when people DON’T get Covid. I also love when, if someone does get Covid, it’s mild and they recover quickly. Neither of these is a given and Covid is obviously still something we are learning about and poses a real threat to certain populations Bit fewer cases, hospitalizations, and deaths is good news.
Anonymous
News flash - maskless spring breaks and gathers have yet to yield mass casualty events, contrary to what you've been led to believe.
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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Natural immunity since so many people had covid at Christmas. Cases reporting is low because people aren’t getting PCR anymore. Hospitalizations will lag.

Hospitalizations and death rate is what really matters. Flu-like symptoms at home will always be around for susceptible individuals. Work to beef up your immunity if you want.

Yes, Hospitalizations and deaths will lag. Don’t be so defensive. Nobody’s asking you to do anything different or change your behavior. But you don’t get to wave your hands and declare that it’s over and no big deal and never will be a problem again. Not while it’s either simmering (here) or exploding (Shanghai, UK, Canada). We don’t exist in a magical bubble.


The inability to magically wave hands and declare the pandemic over or not over is applicable across the board. You don't get to wave your hands and declare it's not over based on an inability to recognize that the implication of case numbers evolves as vaccination rates, treatments, and strains do.
Anonymous
My kid's first day back was today. They had yesterday off.

The cases spiked at both colleges my other kids attend about 10-14 days after they arrived back from Spring Break in March.

My Dr. SIL thinks we'll see the spike here the first 2 weeks of May.

She did post the other day that they hit their 2-week mark with NO covid patients in the ICU for the first time since 2020.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


Which experts? The pandemic has biological and psychology/social roots and they are very much distinct. The pandemic's end will be marked by psychology, not biology. In other words, when people and society say it is over, it is over. Any intelligent person can see this.

Signed.
A psychologist (I guess not a public health "expert" caught in the pandemic of bureaucracy waiting for case counts to dictate the end of the pandemic)


You clearly aren't a very good psychologist. It over when it stabilizes to a small number of cases and doesn't cause huge outbreaks, cause high numbers of deaths and mutations. We are far from there, thanks to people like you.


I happen to agree 100% with the psychologist.

Public health is defined as “the art and science of preventing disease, prolonging life and promoting health through the organized efforts of society.” From the CDC declaring masking unnecessary to prevent PPP shortages amongst medical professionals to the premature advocacy for widespread booster shots - it is evident that behavioral outcomes throughout the course of this pandemic have largely been driven by psychology, rather than science or data.

- Statistician
Anonymous
I know a lot of people who have had Covid lately. People who were super careful but finally thought they could relax a bit and travel or go out to eat. And once one of them went down, they realized they spread it to a LOT of people.

I know most of them tested at home and didn't report it to the county so I think we have no idea how many people have Covid right now. Also, with cases being milder (for some), many dismiss it and don't bother testing.

With masks going away (people aren't wearing them in even places where it's mandatory) I think we are pretty screwed. If nothing else, Americans have shown how selfish they are and that they don't really care if they infect their own families - they aren't going to deal with any inconvenience.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


The actual experts have said that masking is optional just about everywhere. Listen to them.


Cite these "experts"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of people who have had Covid lately. People who were super careful but finally thought they could relax a bit and travel or go out to eat. And once one of them went down, they realized they spread it to a LOT of people.

I know most of them tested at home and didn't report it to the county so I think we have no idea how many people have Covid right now. Also, with cases being milder (for some), many dismiss it and don't bother testing.

With masks going away (people aren't wearing them in even places where it's mandatory) I think we are pretty screwed. If nothing else, Americans have shown how selfish they are and that they don't really care if they infect their own families - they aren't going to deal with any inconvenience.


You can’t hide the things that really matter: hospitalization and deaths. And those look fine. It's not 2020 anymore; in a post-vaccine world, it doesn't make sense to focus on case counts.
Anonymous
School has been back for 2 days, Vlad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


Which experts? The pandemic has biological and psychology/social roots and they are very much distinct. The pandemic's end will be marked by psychology, not biology. In other words, when people and society say it is over, it is over. Any intelligent person can see this.

Signed.
A psychologist (I guess not a public health "expert" caught in the pandemic of bureaucracy waiting for case counts to dictate the end of the pandemic)


You clearly aren't a very good psychologist. It over when it stabilizes to a small number of cases and doesn't cause huge outbreaks, cause high numbers of deaths and mutations. We are far from there, thanks to people like you.


The psychologist is just repeating what everyone has understood for the past two years. Pandemics are social phenomena, and they start and end when people decide that the start and end. Not when a doctor says so.

This is not new information. We have all heard this, we all know this.


We don’t “all know this,” because it is incorrect.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


Which experts? The pandemic has biological and psychology/social roots and they are very much distinct. The pandemic's end will be marked by psychology, not biology. In other words, when people and society say it is over, it is over. Any intelligent person can see this.

Signed.
A psychologist (I guess not a public health "expert" caught in the pandemic of bureaucracy waiting for case counts to dictate the end of the pandemic)


You clearly aren't a very good psychologist. It over when it stabilizes to a small number of cases and doesn't cause huge outbreaks, cause high numbers of deaths and mutations. We are far from there, thanks to people like you.


The psychologist is just repeating what everyone has understood for the past two years. Pandemics are social phenomena, and they start and end when people decide that the start and end. Not when a doctor says so.

This is not new information. We have all heard this, we all know this.


Real science tells us differently. This so called psychologist cannot be for real.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Omicron really is less dangerous. A number of the most vulnerable, seniors and those with health conditions and those who refuse to vaccinate, have already had covid and recovered or not. Now, the virus has mutated to become more transmissible and much less lethal. The pandemic is over.

A new variant could be worse, and the pandemic could return. But right now, the pandemic is over.


Its not over.


Yes, it is.

It was refreshing to go away for spring break and not have to wear a mask, except for on the plane, all week.


No, it’s not. You don’t make that determination. The actual experts do.


Which experts? The pandemic has biological and psychology/social roots and they are very much distinct. The pandemic's end will be marked by psychology, not biology. In other words, when people and society say it is over, it is over. Any intelligent person can see this.

Signed.
A psychologist (I guess not a public health "expert" caught in the pandemic of bureaucracy waiting for case counts to dictate the end of the pandemic)


You clearly aren't a very good psychologist. It over when it stabilizes to a small number of cases and doesn't cause huge outbreaks, cause high numbers of deaths and mutations. We are far from there, thanks to people like you.


I happen to agree 100% with the psychologist.

Public health is defined as “the art and science of preventing disease, prolonging life and promoting health through the organized efforts of society.” From the CDC declaring masking unnecessary to prevent PPP shortages amongst medical professionals to the premature advocacy for widespread booster shots - it is evident that behavioral outcomes throughout the course of this pandemic have largely been driven by psychology, rather than science or data.

- Statistician


The cdc is all politics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know a lot of people who have had Covid lately. People who were super careful but finally thought they could relax a bit and travel or go out to eat. And once one of them went down, they realized they spread it to a LOT of people.

I know most of them tested at home and didn't report it to the county so I think we have no idea how many people have Covid right now. Also, with cases being milder (for some), many dismiss it and don't bother testing.

With masks going away (people aren't wearing them in even places where it's mandatory) I think we are pretty screwed. If nothing else, Americans have shown how selfish they are and that they don't really care if they infect their own families - they aren't going to deal with any inconvenience.


You can’t hide the things that really matter: hospitalization and deaths. And those look fine. It's not 2020 anymore; in a post-vaccine world, it doesn't make sense to focus on case counts.


Actually getting Covid matters to some of us.
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