The Dropout on Hulu (Elizabeth Holmes story)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This series is soft and weak

Inventing Anna is far more better and riveting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did the Walgreens guys really sing a song about blood? I was cringing so hard at this week’s episode. When all the episodes have aired, I’d love to see one comprehensive breakdown of what was real and what was made up for the show. It’s astounding how the lies went on for so long.

Yes, but the song they repurposed in real life was Imagine. I wonder if the show thought that would seem too incredulous so they used What I Like About You instead.

[Anonymous]

Elizabeth Holmes dancing was everything this episode

[Anonymous]

I find her less interesting than the story of all the best and brightest and richest and most powerful people (OK, men) who believed her completely made up B.S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am loving this series! It is unbelievable to me that she and Sunny got away with so much for so long! Amanda Seyfried is fantastic in this roll.

Having worked and currently working for a start up - this is so common. It is so smoke and mirrors.

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What I don’t understand is what the employees who worked on the tech did all day for years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is what the employees who worked on the tech did all day for years!

Tried to solve impossible engineering problems? People do like a challenge!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am loving this series! It is unbelievable to me that she and Sunny got away with so much for so long! Amanda Seyfried is fantastic in this roll.

Having worked and currently working for a start up - this is so common. It is so smoke and mirrors.

Does your start-up involve medical technology?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I don’t understand is what the employees who worked on the tech did all day for years!

They tried like hell to develop the technology. Medical device inventions take decades. This part of the reason that pharma is so expensive. One drug/device takes millions and a long time to create.

[Anonymous]

The line that they were “at least ten years away from a viable product” is repeated often in this series. Theranos was founded in 2003. So what’s happened since then? Is anyone working on this or something similar? Did they give up entirely? At least according to this series, the people working on it seemed to believe it was possible given enough time.

[Anonymous]

Ian! Poor guy. This episode actually brought tears to my eye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The line that they were “at least ten years away from a viable product” is repeated often in this series. Theranos was founded in 2003. So what’s happened since then? Is anyone working on this or something similar? Did they give up entirely? At least according to this series, the people working on it seemed to believe it was possible given enough time.

I’m curious about this too. It’s been a whole decade as of episode 5. Do the actual scientists still think this thing will work someday, and if so, when? And why aren’t their investors asking more questions at this point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The line that they were “at least ten years away from a viable product” is repeated often in this series. Theranos was founded in 2003. So what’s happened since then? Is anyone working on this or something similar? Did they give up entirely? At least according to this series, the people working on it seemed to believe it was possible given enough time.

I’m curious about this too. It’s been a whole decade as of episode 5. Do the actual scientists still think this thing will work someday, and if so, when? And why aren’t their investors asking more questions at this point?

There aren’t any investors anymore?

[Anonymous]

Watching the last episode really brought home for me something I didn’t really think about listening to the podcast.

I cannot imagine running this con for as long as they did, at her age, and not completely falling apart. When Walgreens is putting on the pressure because it’s been 3 years and they want to launch, and they still don’t have anything that even kind of works a little bit? It made me feel sick to my stomach just contemplating that from Holmes’ perspective. I obviously wouldn’t do something like this to begin with, but if I somehow got caught up in it, I would have given up so much earlier. Like all I’d think about, all day every day, would be about how if I just told the truth and gave it all up, losing the company and my money and my religion would be totally worth the sweet release of not having to be afraid it’s about to happen 24/7.

And she was so young too. She could have told her board and investors “the tech isn’t there, it’s not getting there,” let it all implode, gone back to live with her parents for a bit, and then become a Pilates instructor or whatever.

[Anonymous]

If you watch the HBO documentary it discusses why her idea and the tech is just not viable. The wet environment inside the machine; the tiny sample size, and a bunch of other issues. She was dead in the water from the start and was told that by experts. No medical or device experts on her board.