WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

And yet there was an attempt to preemptively approve a covid vaccine for 0-4 year olds despite data showing there wasn't a sufficient immune response. Stupid unforced errors like that do a lot of harm to the public perception of vaccination campaigns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

And yet there was an attempt to preemptively approve a covid vaccine for 0-4 year olds despite data showing there wasn't a sufficient immune response. Stupid unforced errors like that do a lot of harm to the public perception of vaccination campaigns.

Yup, this. Putting their capital into pushing the approval of ineffective vaccinations for this age group, which will make zero difference to the course of the pandemic even IF effective, has led to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really tired of the RP planting these threads all over the place.

+1. Multiple threads based off right wing media talking points over and over. Any thread on FCPS (even if unrelated to Covid) gets overrun with these posters. They are totally irrational and unhinged. It is so sad that these posters found DCUM. This forum used to have useful and practical information and now it’s full of daily wire and daily mail and breitbart stories. I think it’s time for only registered posters to post on the schools forums, just like the soccer forum was changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

[Anonymous]

For those of us following the science, the Legislature and the Governor have little to do with this. Instead, we are approaching a time when masks are not as necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

Local decisions may make sense elsewhere in the state, but in Northern Virginia they're only going to follow the political winds from the Federal government. At this point, I don't trust the school system to EVER remove masks willingly, so I'm thankful they're being taken out of the decision. The only way ACPS would willingly make masks optional is if Biden called up Hutchings personally, and asked, with a photo op, of course... With every single jurisdiction removing mask mandates, for literally everywhere except schools, I'm kind of losing my mind, and thankful I live in Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

If mask mandates locally were based on science, Arlington wouldn't have one now. It has the 2nd highest vaccination rate in VA. Every leading medical person has said we need to get away from cases. Our hospitals in Arlington are amazing - they just rode out the Omicron surge with more capacity than they do in a non-flu season, let alone a regular January (hospitals are typically completely full every January because of the flu).
As shown by school closures last school year and forced child masking this year, the decisions in Arlington (and in many places in NOVA) are not based on medical science, they're based on political science.

The CDC and the AAP have 0 credibility. 0. They both recommend masking 2 year olds, which is such an outlier in the Western World. AAP said this year that babies don't need to see faces. T

As Dr. McBride has repeatedly explained with over 1,000 medical professionals now (and growing), there's 0 solid studies showing that masking kids in school materially reduces COVID transmission. 0. The forced child maskers are who need to follow the science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of us following the science, the Legislature and the Governor have little to do with this. Instead, we are approaching a time when masks are not as necessary.

My family and I are proud followers of the science. That's why we haven't worn masks since last summer. My kids have always had less risk with COVID than the flu, and hubs and I are vaccinated. We actually trust our vaccines, unlike the nuts I see at Whole Foods who are triple vaccinated wearing N95s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

If mask mandates locally were based on science, Arlington wouldn't have one now. It has the 2nd highest vaccination rate in VA. Every leading medical person has said we need to get away from cases. Our hospitals in Arlington are amazing - they just rode out the Omicron surge with more capacity than they do in a non-flu season, let alone a regular January (hospitals are typically completely full every January because of the flu).
As shown by school closures last school year and forced child masking this year, the decisions in Arlington (and in many places in NOVA) are not based on medical science, they're based on political science.

The CDC and the AAP have 0 credibility. 0. They both recommend masking 2 year olds, which is such an outlier in the Western World. AAP said this year that babies don't need to see faces. T

As Dr. McBride has repeatedly explained with over 1,000 medical professionals now (and growing), there's 0 solid studies showing that masking kids in school materially reduces COVID transmission. 0. The forced child maskers are who need to follow the science.

This is the problem. People believe individual social media doctors instead of our public health entities. Also people who use phrases like “forced masker.” Al politics. Youngkin campaigned by saying he would remove the statewide mask mandate but allow local districts to decide. Then he changed to the “parent’s rights” approach after he was elected. He is also lying by saying he is doing what other governors are doing like NJ, but he is not. They’re removing statewide mandates and allowing districts to decide. He is going with the TX and FL political approach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Next Youngkin is going to ban hand sanitizer and soap from schools and businesses that sell food. "We're sick as he11 and we're not going to take it anymore!"

Seriously, I do worry that red states will start overturning all vaccine requirements and we'll see more measles and mumps. The school vaccine requirements are a really important public health measure, and it's absolutely crazy there are people out saying they want to overturn them.

OMG. Youngkin’s proposal has bipartisan support and is very reasonable, based on the numbers and science.

PP - you hysterical reaction, along with the other political sniping, is proof that progressivism is a mental disorder.

It is disingenuous to say it has bipartisan support. I think it has 3 democratic senators and even fewer (if any) delegates. It’s not based on numbers or science — the cdc, the aap and other heath groups say we need masks now. If another variant comes along, districts won’t be able to reinstate the mandate. Their hands are tied from handling the conditions. That is not reasonable. It is based on an Atlantic article and a Republican political strategy. If the law had metrics for mask removal, it would be based on science. If it allowed local districts to decide based on their own conditions, it would make sense (like what NJ and CT did). Parental opt out is not science.

+1

This bill follows numerous other states in reducing their precautions, as numbers are falling drastically. Even the non-state, D.C. is dropping protocols. And the entire nation of Denmark (will you try to characterize Denmark as trump supporters now?).

Your bare, bitter partisanship is showing, PP.

Remember - you are free to mask as long as you want.

But alternatively, PP , you might want to consider getting vaccinated / boosted like the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really tired of the RP planting these threads all over the place.

+1. Multiple threads based off right wing media talking points over and over. Any thread on FCPS (even if unrelated to Covid) gets overrun with these posters. They are totally irrational and unhinged. It is so sad that these posters found DCUM. This forum used to have useful and practical information and now it’s full of daily wire and daily mail and breitbart stories. I think it’s time for only registered posters to post on the schools forums, just like the soccer forum was changed.

I guess if this is what you need to tell yourself, but many of us are Democrats who voted for Biden. Who now feel the glacier slow pace of removing school restrictions, starting from August 2020, have been driven not by science, but special interests.

The flip side of your suggestion that anyone who wants masks off kids and a return to normal schooling is that anyone arguing the opposite is taking talking points from the teachers unions.

[Anonymous]

OMG just look at the reckless MAGA-idiot extremists!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/02/14/dc-covid-restrictions-lifted/

[Anonymous]

“This bill follows numerous other states in reducing their precautions, as numbers are falling drastically. Even the non-state, D.C. is dropping protocols. And the entire nation of Denmark (will you try to characterize Denmark as trump supporters now?).”

It does not follow what those other states are doing because those states didn’t prohibit local areas from reinstating the mandate should conditions change again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“This bill follows numerous other states in reducing their precautions, as numbers are falling drastically. Even the non-state, D.C. is dropping protocols. And the entire nation of Denmark (will you try to characterize Denmark as trump supporters now?).”

It does not follow what those other states are doing because those states didn’t prohibit local areas from reinstating the mandate should conditions change again.

You're right, it's better. In all of those other states they are inexplicably dropping restrictions for everywhere except schools. Which are full of the lowest, possible risk demographic, and of course teachers, who are part of the rest of the community where masks are no longer required. Virginia is the one getting it right.