New Hill East Facebook Group - reaction to local crime

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, another carjacking. I know it won't happen, but we really need a hard crackdown on crime.

Honestly I think a hard crackdown is coming. These so-called progressive prosecutors have gone so far to the left that they are not helping their cause and the end result is going to be a return to more law and order policies. I know they don’t want to hear it, but the answer lies in the middle. Do people need
To be incarcerated for petty theft, no; but do they need a lengthy period of incarceration for holding people up at gunpoint, yes. I don’t care how old they are either, if you are putting a gun to someone you need to be removed from society for a minute.

We are talking about human beings here.

Nobody WANTS to be a criminal. No child sets out to be a criminal when they grow up.

How about we try some understanding and empathy here, instead of the ham-fisted Lockemup! policies, which don’t work?

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Not to mention, what gives this Facebook group the right to judge, given the unearned privilege they were all born into?

I'd be wary about generalizing this about the members of a group like this (I'm not in it, ftr). My experience in similar groups in similar areas is that they tend to be diverse because the neighborhood is diverse, and sometimes the most "law and order" voices in the group are older black residents who have been living there a long time and blame the crime on a lack of policing. It's easy to generalize if you've never lived in a neighborhood like this. But your assumptions are wrong. For instance, in my current neighborhood, the residents who are most vocal about opposing police intervention and urging empathy for young people committing crimes are also the most privileged (young, white, professionals). If you spend time talking to the "less privileged" neighbors, you get a much more nuanced take than just "defund the police" and "don't be a Karen."

This is true. I grew up in se dc and am on that Facebook group.

However, you also have mods who delete anything that could be remotely against the progressive grain. It’s stifling. We have no options in the city. Cries for more moderate voices in the city council are futile. We as citizen living in the middle of the city are all guinea pigs now, part of the grand scheme to reorder policing and criminal policy. Crime is rising, but nothing is being done except useless violence interruptors funded by millions of tax payer money, with all studies showing they do nothing to lower crime. Or we have endless circular discussion trying to “find the root cause of crime so we can fix it.” The root fking cause is poverty, poor or absent parenting, couple with the legacy of redlining, Jim Crow and slavery, and all this other stuff. It’s pretty obvious. Over the decades we’ve thrown millions into programs and spent the most of any place in America on schooling per pupil. Now all we’re doing is lowering the bar to allow certain crimes to be committed with impunity. It sucks. Progressive criminal policy is effectively self flagellation by people who don’t commit crimes. I wonder how this sort of wokeness will impact our soft and hard power on the world stage. Are we just going to self doubt every fking thing we do globally to ensure we conform to every facet of social justice? I really feel sometimes like malign actors probably take advantage of the racial reckoning to expand autocracy on the world stage. This kind of inner turmoil in America on a consistent basis. This kind of paralysis but hoping not to offend anyone will really be our downfall unless we sack up.

Wokeness?

[Anonymous]

Democrat here. I'm for more police and mandatory minimums for any crime involving a firearm (15+ years).

[Anonymous]

I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

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Well I know TONS of families on the Hill because I live here and none of them are making plans to move because of crime. There are conversations about recent incidents of violent crime and we’ve definitely had conversations about what should be done. But none of us think “anonymous concern trolling on the internet” is the solution. Thanks for your input tho, dude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

I miss the old days of that blog when every crime was blamed on the victim playing music to loud on their iPod and not being aware of their surroundings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

I miss the old days of that blog when every crime was blamed on the victim playing music to loud on their iPod and not being aware of their surroundings.

There is such a thing as making yourself an easier target. I do believe it’s the responsibility of the individual not to do so. That doesn’t mean any incident is your fault; some criminals are very bold.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

I miss the old days of that blog when every crime was blamed on the victim playing music to loud on their iPod and not being aware of their surroundings.

There is such a thing as making yourself an easier target. I do believe it’s the responsibility of the individual not to do so. That doesn’t mean any incident is your fault; some criminals are very bold.

Exhibit A: Knockout Game victim Matthew Yglesias

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

I miss the old days of that blog when every crime was blamed on the victim playing music to loud on their iPod and not being aware of their surroundings.

There is such a thing as making yourself an easier target. I do believe it’s the responsibility of the individual not to do so. That doesn’t mean any incident is your fault; some criminals are very bold.

Shouldn’t have dressed that way or invited him in, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

🙄

Well I know TONS of families on the Hill because I live here and none of them are making plans to move because of crime. There are conversations about recent incidents of violent crime and we’ve definitely had conversations about what should be done. But none of us think “anonymous concern trolling on the internet” is the solution. Thanks for your input tho, dude.

I moved because of crime and I know three other families who also moved. Last year DC experienced a large drop in population. At least some of these people moved due to quality of life issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

I miss the old days of that blog when every crime was blamed on the victim playing music to loud on their iPod and not being aware of their surroundings.

There is such a thing as making yourself an easier target. I do believe it’s the responsibility of the individual not to do so. That doesn’t mean any incident is your fault; some criminals are very bold.

Shouldn’t have dressed that way or invited him in, right?

No, you should not have invited him in. Stranger wants to use the phone? Come on in. Want a hookup with a stranger? Come on in.

[Anonymous]

Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

🙄

Well I know TONS of families on the Hill because I live here and none of them are making plans to move because of crime. There are conversations about recent incidents of violent crime and we’ve definitely had conversations about what should be done. But none of us think “anonymous concern trolling on the internet” is the solution. Thanks for your input tho, dude.

I moved because of crime and I know three other families who also moved. Last year DC experienced a large drop in population. At least some of these people moved due to quality of life issues.

We moved because of crime/quality of life and that was before it got as bad as it is now. Most of our friends who lived on the Hill have moved too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

Yes - because East Hill is a hotbed of white supremacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

White supremacists killed this child?

I think not.