New Hill East Facebook Group - reaction to local crime

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

Yes - because East Hill is a hotbed of white supremacy.

Um, yes it is. 1/6 aside, lots of white supremacists live in Capitol Hill.

[Anonymous]

NP... White supremacists were directly involved in 1/6 but are distantly and tangentially involved in the day to day crime in DC by being part of the criminal underground that supplies guns via the black market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrat here. I'm for more police and mandatory minimums for any crime involving a firearm (15+ years).

+10 billion

Especially the mandatory minimum on crime where firearms were used/involved. Those of you that think that's harsh, come back to me after you've been held up at gunpoint or have had to hear screaming and gunshots up the street in your neighborhood. Gun violence of all stripes committed by all shades of people is brutal and completely unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

Yes - because East Hill is a hotbed of white supremacy.

Um, yes it is. 1/6 aside, lots of white supremacists live in Capitol Hill.

This kind of idiocy is why the left deserves to lose in November. No there are not a lot of whites supremacists in hill east.

[Anonymous]

You can call it hill East all you want but it will always be ghetto barney circle/RFK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

Parks, after school programs, meals?

How about juvie?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few families on the Hill. Several are making plans to move. Those who cannot or chose not to do so have doubled down on denying and minimizing risk.

It is striking to me that as crime rises, discussion of it is increasingly policed. On ND, factual threads are swiftly deleted. Popville closed comments on crime articles a while ago, they used to be quite lively. Neighborhood lists are tightly moderated. It is also concerning. As is the increasing randomness of crime.

🙄

Well I know TONS of families on the Hill because I live here and none of them are making plans to move because of crime. There are conversations about recent incidents of violent crime and we’ve definitely had conversations about what should be done. But none of us think “anonymous concern trolling on the internet” is the solution. Thanks for your input tho, dude.

I moved because of crime and I know three other families who also moved. Last year DC experienced a large drop in population. At least some of these people moved due to quality of life issues.

I remember when TONS of families had conversations about turning around our shitty public middle school. Smart ones moved to the privates and the school is more shitty. Thanks for your input tho, dude #1

[Anonymous]

I'm in that facebook group. I just hope that the responses are not representative of the neighborhood as a whole. Most of my neighbors and friends are really upset about the rising crime. No one is willing to say anything publicly for fear of being called a racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

People are always saying how there is all this stuff to do in the city... and it's vibrant and lively and fun. And yet I feel like these same people are the ones saying these kids have nothing to do so it is OK they commit crimes.

I think this is partly why, and I’m a liberal on most issues, republicans are going to win the midterms. The woke contingent, in an effort to redress past racial terribleness, are asking folks to ignore “petty criminality” in an effort to avoid incarceration. All that does is show people they can commit crime with impunity. Whether it’s Charles Allen blaming the city for taking too long to suck up fallen leaves and not the kids who lit the leaves on fire under cars, or whether it’s a bunch of self flagellating idiots on the New Hill East Facebook group who seem to think we should all just not make a fuss about paintballs being shot at us. It’s nuts and I see many young people who have joined the bandwagon on this groupthink. Where are we going to be in 20 years if the young generation just seems to not care because it’s socially conscious not to lock anyone up or see them face consequences.

Young generation will also get bricked in the head and rethink their idiocy

[Anonymous]

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Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.


Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.


These are really just childish pranks.


Arson is not a prank.


Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?



Parks, after school programs, meals?


How about juvie?

Any youth from 14 to 22 can have a government paid summer job.
Any youth in public or public charter school can have free lunch and free breakfast.
There are numerous sports and recreation leagues---basketball, football, soccer, tennis, plus organizations that will provide sports equipment to kids who need it
There are numerous organizations that provide mentors (e.g., boys and girls club).

There is no shortage in this city of do-gooder organizations and government money to help needy children.
What there is NOT is any type of accountability for lousy parents. There is also a child protective services system that is focused on "family reunification" to the detriment of the best interests of the child---where kids are put through a revolving door of foster care/return to dsyfunctional home/back to foster care, etc. And don't come back and talk about how poverty is the cause of poor parenting, because there are poor families who are NOT poor parents. There are also any number of government programs/set asides/training programs to help adults who want to work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids are basically living in a war zone, statistically. They've never been very far out of their neighborhood, let alone the Smithsonians. They are locked up and go right back to crime because that is their life. P.S. there's not that much going on at the rec centers

You’ve basically made the case for less subsidized public housing in cities. Look at Potomac Gardens in Capitol Hill. So much crime on an otherwise nice area caused by that development. Or anywhere else for that matter. You’re going to see a ton of crime once Reservation 13 and its 2/3 ultra low AMI housing set aside are built. It sucks. I don’t get the self flagellation about this. Let the market work the way it should and those who can’t pay just move to where they can and let neighborhoods rise. Or just allow some market rate, but not so much of a subsidized amount of units. I am not going to argue with people about this. It’s just a fact. And we’ll keep have naive or obstinate bleeding heart SJW types on Facebook neighborhood groups trying to shame anyone who posts about it in like 10 years once it all comes to fruitiruon. The simplest thing is to just to let developers develop the area organically.

Thank you for that lesson. I grew up 3 blocks from the gardens so I'm aware of the area. My point is the kids are doomed from the start, growing up in that environment. I mean, corporations are making record profits and the poorest are getting poorer, in a pandemic, but no we shouldn't invest in those left behind. /s

[Anonymous]

Any youth from 14 to 22 can have a government paid summer job.
Any youth in public or public charter school can have free lunch and free breakfast.
There are numerous sports and recreation leagues---basketball, football, soccer, tennis, plus organizations that will provide sports equipment to kids who need it
There are numerous organizations that provide mentors (e.g., boys and girls club).

There is no shortage in this city of do-gooder organizations and government money to help needy children.
What there is NOT is any type of accountability for lousy parents. There is also a child protective services system that is focused on "family reunification" to the detriment of the best interests of the child---where kids are put through a revolving door of foster care/return to dsyfunctional home/back to foster care, etc. And don't come back and talk about how poverty is the cause of poor parenting, because there are poor families who are NOT poor parents. There are also any number of government programs/set asides/training programs to help adults who want to work.

The cause is trauma, what do you think should be done about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Any youth from 14 to 22 can have a government paid summer job.
Any youth in public or public charter school can have free lunch and free breakfast.
There are numerous sports and recreation leagues---basketball, football, soccer, tennis, plus organizations that will provide sports equipment to kids who need it
There are numerous organizations that provide mentors (e.g., boys and girls club).

There is no shortage in this city of do-gooder organizations and government money to help needy children.
What there is NOT is any type of accountability for lousy parents. There is also a child protective services system that is focused on "family reunification" to the detriment of the best interests of the child---where kids are put through a revolving door of foster care/return to dsyfunctional home/back to foster care, etc. And don't come back and talk about how poverty is the cause of poor parenting, because there are poor families who are NOT poor parents. There are also any number of government programs/set asides/training programs to help adults who want to work.

The cause is trauma, what do you think should be done about that?

Well, yes and no. Other communities also carry trauma, both in recent memory and across generations. Not all communities have this same result. Trauma is part of this but not the whole story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

Yes - because East Hill is a hotbed of white supremacy.

Um, yes it is. 1/6 aside, lots of white supremacists live in Capitol Hill.

+1 I see lots of cars (usually Jeeps or trucks/SUVs) with known-but-subtle RWNJ bumper stickers on my dog walk route (Lincoln Park area). They’re out there. You just have to know how to spot them. They put out little clues like that to identify with each other. Houses with green or blue bulbs in one of the front porch lights are another giveaway. I know of several houses with those too.

They’re here. Open your eyes and see them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Murder an 11-year-old?

Spend less time in jail than years he lived.

https://wtop.com/dc/2022/02/family-says-the-killers-of-an-11yo-boy-are-getting-away-with-murder-2/

Let’s not pretend this city cares about crime.

We need to confiscate all the guns from racist white supremacists. It’s the only way to stop this. They are the greatest threat to our society. 1/6 is all the evidence we need.

Yes - because East Hill is a hotbed of white supremacy.

Um, yes it is. 1/6 aside, lots of white supremacists live in Capitol Hill.

+1 I see lots of cars (usually Jeeps or trucks/SUVs) with known-but-subtle RWNJ bumper stickers on my dog walk route (Lincoln Park area). They’re out there. You just have to know how to spot them. They put out little clues like that to identify with each other. Houses with green or blue bulbs in one of the front porch lights are another giveaway. I know of several houses with those too.

They’re here. Open your eyes and see them.

So Jeeps with Gadsen Snake bumper stickers and porch lights signal to you a massive amount of white supremacists having converged in the area.