New Hill East Facebook Group - reaction to local crime

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

School, sports, clubs, after school programming, jobs, free transportation throughout the entire city, museums, volunteer opportunities galore...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're right - if you argue too much - the mods will hate you forever. I don't like the tone of the mods lately - like everyone is stupid. With this issue - I see both sides, would not like this to happen to me, but still its paintball and we over police these kids.

If someone shoots my house with paintballs and I either have to spend several thousand dollars getting it re-painted or make a claim on my homeowner's insurance which ends up costing me thousands of dollars over the course of future years... I do not consider that a prank. Sorry. Call the police. If a judge wants to sentence them to washing and re-painting their damage instead of jail, fine, but no, individual residents shouldn't be asked to pay for the misbehavior of other people's kids.

In addition to that, again, this is false compassion. Those kids need to face consequence to bad behavior and get their lives on track.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

People are always saying how there is all this stuff to do in the city... and it's vibrant and lively and fun. And yet I feel like these same people are the ones saying these kids have nothing to do so it is OK they commit crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

People are always saying how there is all this stuff to do in the city... and it's vibrant and lively and fun. And yet I feel like these same people are the ones saying these kids have nothing to do so it is OK they commit crimes.

I think this is partly why, and I’m a liberal on most issues, republicans are going to win the midterms. The woke contingent, in an effort to redress past racial terribleness, are asking folks to ignore “petty criminality” in an effort to avoid incarceration. All that does is show people they can commit crime with impunity. Whether it’s Charles Allen blaming the city for taking too long to suck up fallen leaves and not the kids who lit the leaves on fire under cars, or whether it’s a bunch of self flagellating idiots on the New Hill East Facebook group who seem to think we should all just not make a fuss about paintballs being shot at us. It’s nuts and I see many young people who have joined the bandwagon on this groupthink. Where are we going to be in 20 years if the young generation just seems to not care because it’s socially conscious not to lock anyone up or see them face consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were one of the teenagers doing this crap I'd be laughing at the wimps on the Facebook group for sure.

Of course you’d be laughing. Violent criminals all over DC are laughing because they know the city has gone totally soft on crime.

Why are these students or young people not focusing on their studies and/or how to further their careers?

But they are. They're practicing how to be career criminals. You need to work your way up until you're ready for carjackings and shootouts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were one of the teenagers doing this crap I'd be laughing at the wimps on the Facebook group for sure.

Of course you’d be laughing. Violent criminals all over DC are laughing because they know the city has gone totally soft on crime.

Why are these students or young people not focusing on their studies and/or how to further their careers?

But they are. They're practicing how to be career criminals. You need to work your way up until you're ready for carjackings and shootouts.

I guess we should tailor edjukashun to help them meet there goles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're right - if you argue too much - the mods will hate you forever. I don't like the tone of the mods lately - like everyone is stupid. With this issue - I see both sides, would not like this to happen to me, but still its paintball and we over police these kids.

If someone shoots my house with paintballs and I either have to spend several thousand dollars getting it re-painted or make a claim on my homeowner's insurance which ends up costing me thousands of dollars over the course of future years... I do not consider that a prank. Sorry. Call the police. If a judge wants to sentence them to washing and re-painting their damage instead of jail, fine, but no, individual residents shouldn't be asked to pay for the misbehavior of other people's kids.

In addition to that, again, this is false compassion. Those kids need to face consequence to bad behavior and get their lives on track.

+1 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

Parks, after school programs, meals?

The kids don't know what "normal" is and much of it is multi-generational, their parents were no better than they are. They either don't know that programs to help exist (many of them have probably never even been to the free, world class Smithsonians) or don't understand those are good things because lack of parenting/uninvolved caregivers, lack or mentors or role models to show them the way. And those who say "Oh show some empathy" and "oh it was just a prank" are not helping either.And the juvenile justice system won't fix anything either.

It's a vicious cycle, that has to be broken. I hate to say it but the only thing that might help is robust, mandatory after school and summer programs from k-12 for the at-risk kids and consequences for the parents/caregivers that don't help them get on a good path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

Parks, after school programs, meals?

The kids don't know what "normal" is and much of it is multi-generational, their parents were no better than they are. They either don't know that programs to help exist (many of them have probably never even been to the free, world class Smithsonians) or don't understand those are good things because lack of parenting/uninvolved caregivers, lack or mentors or role models to show them the way. And those who say "Oh show some empathy" and "oh it was just a prank" are not helping either.And the juvenile justice system won't fix anything either.

It's a vicious cycle, that has to be broken. I hate to say it but the only thing that might help is robust, mandatory after school and summer programs from k-12 for the at-risk kids and consequences for the parents/caregivers that don't help them get on a good path.

I know it's Fox news, but this report makes some fair points about the senseless violence in DC: https://www.foxnews.com/us/unfathomable-washington-dc-murder-victims-often-killed-over-petty-insults-experts-say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

Parks, after school programs, meals?

The kids don't know what "normal" is and much of it is multi-generational, their parents were no better than they are. They either don't know that programs to help exist (many of them have probably never even been to the free, world class Smithsonians) or don't understand those are good things because lack of parenting/uninvolved caregivers, lack or mentors or role models to show them the way. And those who say "Oh show some empathy" and "oh it was just a prank" are not helping either.And the juvenile justice system won't fix anything either.

It's a vicious cycle, that has to be broken. I hate to say it but the only thing that might help is robust, mandatory after school and summer programs from k-12 for the at-risk kids and consequences for the parents/caregivers that don't help them get on a good path.

I know it's Fox news, but this report makes some fair points about the senseless violence in DC: https://www.foxnews.com/us/unfathomable-washington-dc-murder-victims-often-killed-over-petty-insults-experts-say

People lacking a proper upbringing...
But, they gloss over the fact that these communities are completely awash in guns, that it is far too easy for these people to get guns.

[Anonymous]

Gah, wait until Roe is overturned. 14 years from now it will be open warfare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were one of the teenagers doing this crap I'd be laughing at the wimps on the Facebook group for sure.

Of course you’d be laughing. Violent criminals all over DC are laughing because they know the city has gone totally soft on crime.

Why are these students or young people not focusing on their studies and/or how to further their careers?

DCPS has made the grading scale so easy and gives them so many tries that you get an A at most schools for showing up and doing something. You don’t actually have to know anything to graduate from a DCPS high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

What happens is people are blase when it doesn't happen to them personally. They think the people it happened to attracted it in some way and believe that they are so awesome that they are immune. Then it happens to them and suddenly you find they are calling for something to be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were one of the teenagers doing this crap I'd be laughing at the wimps on the Facebook group for sure.

Of course you’d be laughing. Violent criminals all over DC are laughing because they know the city has gone totally soft on crime.

Why are these students or young people not focusing on their studies and/or how to further their careers?

DCPS has made the grading scale so easy and gives them so many tries that you get an A at most schools for showing up and doing something. You don’t actually have to know anything to graduate from a DCPS high school.

Promoting students without challenging them is the soft racism of low expectations. DCPS needs to do better than that.

Meanwhile, what "careers?" Most of the at-risk kids are the product of multigenerational poverty and don't even know what that means. Apart from their teachers, they don't know anyone who has a "career." The only outside influences they might even have is to see people like rich well paid athletes or rich well paid rappers, and they don't understand that's a steep and competitive pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else a member of this Facebook group and a Hill resident? A lady’s house was shot by kids with paintballs and she posted her anguish on the Facebook page. This paintball issue happened multiple times to the same resident. Instead of the group members being supportive, most of them told her not to calm the police to find the kids that did it because of the potential for the kids to go to jail or worse and because of potential police brutality.

I read the postings on this Facebook group a lot to stayinformed about local issues. I’m kind of concerned based on reading many of the responses to thud and other posts that we’re getting to a place where self flagellation is somehow expected. As if living in a city, and this probably directed to gentrifiers in dc, you’re supposed to just be a victim of crime and not call the police. Are many people like this now and it’s racist to call the cops? Or are these posts just virtue signaling? Basically if you call the cops now when you’re assaulted or whatever you are the one who’s bad? There have been other posts like this on the group where someone was hurt or verbally assaulted, posted their sad story online, only to be lectured to by some kid who merely says “don’t call the cops” you should just grin and bear it.

I’d post my annoyance on the groups page, but honestly the mods would probably kick me off for being “rude” or something.

Basically kids were walking around with paintball guns (in the cold snow) shooting things. Paintballs can freeze and really hurt. Also, this is the same neighborhood where kids were lighting leaves on fire under cars, there has been a large increase in car jackings, etc…so when I read posters encouraging victims to just move on and not do anything like tell the police I’m kind of surprised. The kids were on camera.

These are really just childish pranks.

Arson is not a prank.

Oh please.

So they lit a couple of leaves on fire. MYOB.

Besides, what does the city provide for these kids to do? Nothing?

Why is it the City's job to raise these kids? And the city offers all kinds of things at rec centers, schools, summer jobs etc.