Just in place where I feel it sucks to be the parent of black children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so, so sorry. As a white woman, I am ashamed and horrified by so many white women today. I am so effing disgusted and sorry. Your kids deserve better from our state and country and community.

I feel the same. I really feel sorry for all Black people in Amerikkka; especially Black parents.

Ew. Nobody wants your pity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m so, so sorry. As a white woman, I am ashamed and horrified by so many white women today. I am so effing disgusted and sorry. Your kids deserve better from our state and country and community.

I feel the same. I really feel sorry for all Black people in Amerikkka; especially Black parents.

Ew. Nobody wants your pity.

I don't translate those comments as extending pity but expressing revulsion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Are you white? Your post reads like you’re a keyboard SJW with a serious case of white savior complex.

Sometimes people who do not share the exact same life experiences can still bond, human to human, over the things they do have in common.

[Anonymous]

Interesting thought OP. We are Black parents raising two amazing children. One excels in the top 1% of a Magnet MCPS HS and will have a very bright future God willing, and the other is just starting kinder in what we think of as a melting pot ES that is top notch. I was not raised to have a mentality that hinders growth, success or excellence, so my entire family has high standards. I do understand there is racism but it is kind of like voodoo. Most of the time, if you do not believe in it then it will not affect you. Also, how you react to the world's ills is being recorded by your children. So, you must think about what you want them to take from how you behave, what you say, and your mindset. They are watching. My mindset is that our physical characteristics are African American but excellence and being successful is not a race so therefore it should have no bearing. Also, I do not participate in politics, watch News or trash TV, or subscribe to people with issues. Besides DCUM, Lol, my secret indulgence.

I am sorry you feel this way but you must change your thinking for the sake of your kids and be happy to have children who are allowed by law to be able to reach whatever destination you set before them and encourage them to reach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

Well, it's important we don't hurt the feelings of white kids. So let's go through the library and flag all the books about the civil rights movement.

You don't know what you don't know. Erasing a sordid and scary past allows for minds to forget. This sets the stage for an even greater evil in the future. The orchestrators of this world know their history and their role in it. Think about that. Knowledge is power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

It is true that the rubes fell for the whole CRT/Fox News nonsense, but what you saw was a backlash to an ineffective president and woke BS in general. You can only hear so much about guys wanting to compete against girls in sports or race based discrimination by dems before you say F it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t get it. Where is the sense of perspective? You think bringing black kids into the world is abusive?

Did anyone think this in the 50s/60s? During Jim Crow? Things are monumentally better for black people and all people now. Massive legal reform, economic progress, equal (or better) representation in culture and the arts, black millionaires and billionaires, presidents and senators. Every elite institution is bending over backward to unload trucks of money for qualified black candidates. No company in America would even think of publishing an ad campaign not featuring POC or putting out a movie that doesn’t feature a heroic black or other POC lead character. Decades of rampant police abuse of POC is finally getting exposed for all to see and stamped out for good.

But… Virginia barely elected a Republican? And queue the hysteria?

I clearly have a view, but I’m honestly not trying to be insensitive or obtuse. The black people I’m close to—admittedly, rich and mostly from top schools, etc—are doing just great.

I genuinely just feel like people are living in alternate universes right now. We’re not even describing the same factual world.

If you’re seriously wondering what people thought in the 50s /60s there are plenty of resources out there and plenty of people that you can ask. I would say more, but I’m not clear from your diatribe that you’re here to learn. Do you know, for example, the percentage of Black kids who attend underfunded, racially segregated schools? Have you thought about how and why this reality came to be?
Here’s some fun reading for you.

https://www.epi.org/publication/schools-are-still-segregated-and-black-children-are-paying-a-price/

One quick question though: Who do I call to get access to those truckloads of money? I don’t want a lot. Just enough to feel reasonably secure both now and as I head towards retirement. I have an Ivy League degree, a PhD, and I can code switch with alacrity.

You may not be trying to be insensitive or obtuse, but if the Black people you are close to are “admittedly, rich and mostly from top schools, etc (and) doing just great”, you surely must realize that 1) those people are hardly representative of Black Americans as a demographic group, and 2) while they might truly be doing “just great”, you may or may not be privy to the stressors that they’re facing in the process.

I truly hope you’re right about police abuse of POC getting “stamped out for good” — but little that I’ve seen or read suggests that. Perhaps you can provide us with some data when you get tired from accusing people whose challenges you do not share of “hysteria “.

tldr: Things might be better in many respects for a few, and that’s great. Representation is also great. But we really are not living in the same world much of the time. If you would sincerely like to explore the issues that you’ve raised, consider starting another thread.

OP: Sometimes it IS hard, and it helps to have people in your Village who can see that too. I hope you have a strong support system.
I hope that things get better — for you and your family, and for us all. Sending positive thoughts your way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

It is true that the rubes fell for the whole CRT/Fox News nonsense, but what you saw was a backlash to an ineffective president and woke BS in general. You can only hear so much about guys wanting to compete against girls in sports or race based discrimination by dems before you say F it.

I'm a liberal Democrat (as are many of the people who voted for Youngkin) and as such don't watch conservative media. I know that CRT is in the schools. Any school assigning and discussing Kendi is promoting CRT. He's a disgusting racist and has no place in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Reeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

No. The goal is to not let woke lunatics dumb down the curriculum and introduce the works of racists like Kendi and DiAngelo into our schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

Well, it's important we don't hurt the feelings of white kids. So let's go through the library and flag all the books about the civil rights movement.

And the sad thing is, you could easily point to many white civil rights heroes going back to the earliest days of American, ante- and postbellum, and into the 20th century. Hell, how about the southern-born military officers that stayed loyal to the Union, unlike the traitorous, murderous Bobby Lee.

https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Loyalists-Union-Soldiers-Confederacy/dp/1555531245

But no, it's not enough to celebrate the white folks who were on the "right side" of history, let's just bury it all to spare little Johnny's feelings. Of course, little Johnny may be just fine learning all this. It's more likely his parents would prefer to avoid such difficult conversations at home.

It's none of that. It's the next part we disagree with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You should get help OP. Your children are healthy ( hopefully). But, its so gross that you think that out of all the things that can make someone’s life difficult race is the end all. Get perspective - your not a woman in the middle east, someone fleeing from Russia/N.Korea, and your children aren’t born with chronic disabilities like ERB ( look it up).

Signed a black parent

Someone fleeing from North Korea will gain freedom if they are successful while a Black American born here will always have to deal with racism.

You think a Korean immigrant with likely very little English and a heavy accent wouldn’t experience racism in this country???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting thought OP. We are Black parents raising two amazing children. One excels in the top 1% of a Magnet MCPS HS and will have a very bright future God willing, and the other is just starting kinder in what we think of as a melting pot ES that is top notch. I was not raised to have a mentality that hinders growth, success or excellence, so my entire family has high standards. I do understand there is racism but it is kind of like voodoo. Most of the time, if you do not believe in it then it will not affect you. Also, how you react to the world's ills is being recorded by your children. So, you must think about what you want them to take from how you behave, what you say, and your mindset. They are watching. My mindset is that our physical characteristics are African American but excellence and being successful is not a race so therefore it should have no bearing. Also, I do not participate in politics, watch News or trash TV, or subscribe to people with issues. Besides DCUM, Lol, my secret indulgence.

I am sorry you feel this way but you must change your thinking for the sake of your kids and be happy to have children who are allowed by law to be able to reach whatever destination you set before them and encourage them to reach.

+1 Beautifully written.

[Anonymous]

OP - I feel bad for your kids. Not because they are black, but because you are teaching them this mindset. They can be whatever they want to be and you are teaching them that the world is against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but there are a lot of beautiful things too — thoughtful, loving, generous people, the majesty of nature, the thrill of falling in love, the support and companionship of friends, pride earned through a hard won accomplishment.

I’m sorry you’re feeling down. Please reach out IRL to someone who loves you.

These things, including climate change, have ALWAYS existed in the world. The only difference is that now people are more neurotic because they think they can prevent every bad thing, and when they can't it is injustice.

Agree that life is full of both good and bad. It is up to each individual to learn to focus on the good.