Just in place where I feel it sucks to be the parent of black children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

[Anonymous]

This country is all about white rage over petty things. But whatever…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This country is all about white rage over petty things. But whatever…

Yep...these fools started a revolution because they couldn't be trouble to pay taxes to support the frontier defense provided by the home country. I used to think that the American experiment was worth it because my ancestors toiled and worked to fulfill the promise of the founding documents. I mean, if they believed in the promise of America, who was I to reject it. Well...I've wised up and now see the whole enterprise for the sick joke that it is. All the merry myth-making is BS. But look, I obey the law, pay my taxes, and try to spread kindness wherever I go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, another black parent here. Hang in there OP, I get it but I've long since ceased to have any expectations of my fellow Americans and so don't really get disappointed by them...not anymore at least. It's a terrible situation from top to bottom and likely always will be. The good thing is that we can still carve out happy fulfilling lives, even if our orientation toward our country/society is a bit thicker, complicated than others.

Love this response. +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

I'll let the PP answer that, but it's a question relevant to my experience. As a matter of background, I'm black but grew up in a predominantly white upper-income suburb in the 80s-90s. But there was bussing at the time, and I traveled into the nearby predominantly black city for school in grades 4-6. The other years, the city kids were bussed out to the suburbs. The point is, as a little kid I constantly wondered why nearly all the black kids lived in the city (the 'hood really), while all the white kids (and me) lived in the leafy-greeen suburbs. Little kid logic would assume that the black families simply preferred to live there (and being poor), while the white families preferred the suburbs. It was all a bit confusing for me.

I would have really appreciated someone explaining redlining to me (in an age-appropriate way of course), instead of allowing me to wallow in confusion and implicitly endorsing that (racist) notion that black people simply preferred to live that way, when it was actually all by design. I get why some white parents might not want their kids hearing about that, but people should realize that little black kids are trying to understand the world as well, and denying them explanations can do real damage---and I'd venture to say more damage than tinge of discomfort that white kids may feel from hearing such explanations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

Well, it's important we don't hurt the feelings of white kids. So let's go through the library and flag all the books about the civil rights movement.

[Anonymous]

Don't be so sad, cheer up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

Well, it's important we don't hurt the feelings of white kids. So let's go through the library and flag all the books about the civil rights movement.

And the sad thing is, you could easily point to many white civil rights heroes going back to the earliest days of American, ante- and postbellum, and into the 20th century. Hell, how about the southern-born military officers that stayed loyal to the Union, unlike the traitorous, murderous Bobby Lee.

https://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Loyalists-Union-Soldiers-Confederacy/dp/1555531245

But no, it's not enough to celebrate the white folks who were on the "right side" of history, let's just bury it all to spare little Johnny's feelings. Of course, little Johnny may be just fine learning all this. It's more likely his parents would prefer to avoid such difficult conversations at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not black, so I can’t pretend to know what you’re experiencing, but I do think I kind of understand the feeling that maybe we’re not doing our kids any favors by bringing them into a world where there’s genocide, murder, rape, torture, racism, famine, disease, pestilence, climate change. There are many horrific things in the world that I wish I could keep my kids from even knowing exist, but . . .

OMG. Tone deaf much? Do you even realize the point of OP creating this thread??

Your list does not even mention the white supremacy in Virginia and New Jersey demonstrated on Tuesday night, and the pervasive systemic racism her own child faces - particularly from genocidal racist police in the US. Your list just vaguely tosses in “racism” like it’s any other old problem day to day.

You really do not understand.

Oh, FFS. VA did not demonstrate white supremacy by electiing (barely) a Republican governor. I'm black, and voted for McAuliffe, and don't like Youngkin, but I think your hysteria is misplaced and absurd. VA's governors serve one term and they're out. Hopefully we'll replace him with a better choice next go 'round.

I agree that “white supremacy” isn’t the quite right descriptor, but I do think that (and I hate this term) “white fragility” was on display as manifested by many parents who can’t tolerate the schools mentioning even the slightest uncomfortable facts of American history. The whole CRT thing was a ruse. The real goal is the erasure of unsavory episodes our history lest children (or more likely parents) feel a bit upset. It’s actually a long running project of the right and was very much emphasized. These folks want “patriotic” education full stop, which means sweeping a ton under the rug. That was the object no doubt. Now - will they be successful? Probably not at the school-by-school level, but it will continue to be a potent electoral force, which the GOP will use to win elections and then use enhanced electoral power to make it harder for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out), which I guess approaches white supremacy.

But it’s all good so long as little Connor doesn’t have to learn about redlining, I guess.

Dems need to be smarter tho’ and realize that white folks can only tolerate so much…

At what age is little Connor learning about redlining? Early elementary?

if the GOP has its way, little Connor will never learn about it

Yes, we don't want to reveal how systemic racism is hurting people today.

Well, it's important we don't hurt the feelings of white kids. So let's go through the library and flag all the books about the civil rights movement.

They are trying to do just that in PA.

[Anonymous]

^^ they did put that book back in the libraries.