Why aren't children re-evaluated for AAP annually?

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Anonymous wrote:Because for UMC parents, AAP placement is a status symbol, and they're not going to let you take that away from them.

100% this. This is the reason. Our school had a mass exodus for private school in 3rd and 4th grade and two close friends confided it was because their kids didn't get into AAP.

General ed is terrible in some schools as well and many will choose private over leaving their kid in failing classrooms.

I suspect that parents who are leaving for private because the schools are not great and their kid could not leave the school for the Center are parents who could have bought a different house in boundary with a better ES. If you can find the money for private school, you can find the money for a different house. These tend to be the people who want the bigger house, for less money, and an amazing school. While that is the ideal, there is not anyone in the area who isn't aware that doesn't tend to happen. You read about this in the DC forums were parents end up upset that they have to send their kid to private or Arlington because they couldn't get into the schools that they want through the lottery and the neighborhood school is not what they want for the kid.

General Ed is not uniform across the County because there are clusters of wealth and poverty with some bleeding in between. Kids who come from poverty have parents with different educational starting points and goals for their kids. I would bet that many of the kids that attend some of the schools that people here disparage have parents who are happy that their kid can go to school at all because school was not a guarantee in their home countries. Middle class families are buying houses in those areas because the houses are far more affordable and then lean on AAP to move schools because they don't like the base school.

Do I think that in the ideal world all kids would have the same opportunities? Yes. Is this happening in reality? No. You cannot present kids who arrive at school having not been read to or playing math games or learning colors and shapes to be at the same starting point as kids whose parents have Nannies who are expected to be working on academics or sent to preschools that work on academics or have parents who read to the kids nightly and try and find enriching activities for the kids. Realistically speaking, the schools with a higher level of kids living in poverty or near poverty are at a different starting point and the expectation that the Teachers at those schools are not going to be able to get most of their kids to be at the same standard as my kids middle class school with parents who are able to help their kids personally or finding tutors.

The parents that leave schools because their kids are not accepted into AAP are ones who probably could have chosen a different base school. I have little sympathy for their plight because they choose that house in that location in that school boundary.

There are a lot of assumptions made in this post about everything from why a parent chooses a home to how easy/hard it is to manage a monthly payment for a $10K bill versus coming up with a down payment of $300,000 plus mortgage payments for a house.

While this may be true for some parents, that certainly isn't the case for most. There are only a few school pyramids where the elementary, middle and high school are all great. Usually families have to choose one. You cant blame parents for doing what will benefit their children. I dont think they're looking for sympathy, just what is best for their kid(s).

Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

I agree that different people want different things from different schools and many parents with children at schools with lower GS scores are happy there. But the ones who complain on DCUM, they didn't want to buy a house in Burke and then they complain that FCPS is terrible.

Where can I get a town house for 300k in a great pyramid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because for UMC parents, AAP placement is a status symbol, and they're not going to let you take that away from them.

100% this. This is the reason. Our school had a mass exodus for private school in 3rd and 4th grade and two close friends confided it was because their kids didn't get into AAP.

General ed is terrible in some schools as well and many will choose private over leaving their kid in failing classrooms.

I suspect that parents who are leaving for private because the schools are not great and their kid could not leave the school for the Center are parents who could have bought a different house in boundary with a better ES. If you can find the money for private school, you can find the money for a different house. These tend to be the people who want the bigger house, for less money, and an amazing school. While that is the ideal, there is not anyone in the area who isn't aware that doesn't tend to happen. You read about this in the DC forums were parents end up upset that they have to send their kid to private or Arlington because they couldn't get into the schools that they want through the lottery and the neighborhood school is not what they want for the kid.

General Ed is not uniform across the County because there are clusters of wealth and poverty with some bleeding in between. Kids who come from poverty have parents with different educational starting points and goals for their kids. I would bet that many of the kids that attend some of the schools that people here disparage have parents who are happy that their kid can go to school at all because school was not a guarantee in their home countries. Middle class families are buying houses in those areas because the houses are far more affordable and then lean on AAP to move schools because they don't like the base school.

Do I think that in the ideal world all kids would have the same opportunities? Yes. Is this happening in reality? No. You cannot present kids who arrive at school having not been read to or playing math games or learning colors and shapes to be at the same starting point as kids whose parents have Nannies who are expected to be working on academics or sent to preschools that work on academics or have parents who read to the kids nightly and try and find enriching activities for the kids. Realistically speaking, the schools with a higher level of kids living in poverty or near poverty are at a different starting point and the expectation that the Teachers at those schools are not going to be able to get most of their kids to be at the same standard as my kids middle class school with parents who are able to help their kids personally or finding tutors.

The parents that leave schools because their kids are not accepted into AAP are ones who probably could have chosen a different base school. I have little sympathy for their plight because they choose that house in that location in that school boundary.

There are a lot of assumptions made in this post about everything from why a parent chooses a home to how easy/hard it is to manage a monthly payment for a $10K bill versus coming up with a down payment of $300,000 plus mortgage payments for a house.

While this may be true for some parents, that certainly isn't the case for most. There are only a few school pyramids where the elementary, middle and high school are all great. Usually families have to choose one. You cant blame parents for doing what will benefit their children. I dont think they're looking for sympathy, just what is best for their kid(s).

Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

I agree that different people want different things from different schools and many parents with children at schools with lower GS scores are happy there. But the ones who complain on DCUM, they didn't want to buy a house in Burke and then they complain that FCPS is terrible.

Where can I get a town house for 300k in a great pyramid?

The PP is off about Burke prices right now by about 100k--but you can get a townhouse there for around 400-480K right now--and in general in a decent school pyramid (e.g., Robinson, Lake Braddock, West Springfield).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because for UMC parents, AAP placement is a status symbol, and they're not going to let you take that away from them.

100% this. This is the reason. Our school had a mass exodus for private school in 3rd and 4th grade and two close friends confided it was because their kids didn't get into AAP.

General ed is terrible in some schools as well and many will choose private over leaving their kid in failing classrooms.

I suspect that parents who are leaving for private because the schools are not great and their kid could not leave the school for the Center are parents who could have bought a different house in boundary with a better ES. If you can find the money for private school, you can find the money for a different house. These tend to be the people who want the bigger house, for less money, and an amazing school. While that is the ideal, there is not anyone in the area who isn't aware that doesn't tend to happen. You read about this in the DC forums were parents end up upset that they have to send their kid to private or Arlington because they couldn't get into the schools that they want through the lottery and the neighborhood school is not what they want for the kid.

General Ed is not uniform across the County because there are clusters of wealth and poverty with some bleeding in between. Kids who come from poverty have parents with different educational starting points and goals for their kids. I would bet that many of the kids that attend some of the schools that people here disparage have parents who are happy that their kid can go to school at all because school was not a guarantee in their home countries. Middle class families are buying houses in those areas because the houses are far more affordable and then lean on AAP to move schools because they don't like the base school.

Do I think that in the ideal world all kids would have the same opportunities? Yes. Is this happening in reality? No. You cannot present kids who arrive at school having not been read to or playing math games or learning colors and shapes to be at the same starting point as kids whose parents have Nannies who are expected to be working on academics or sent to preschools that work on academics or have parents who read to the kids nightly and try and find enriching activities for the kids. Realistically speaking, the schools with a higher level of kids living in poverty or near poverty are at a different starting point and the expectation that the Teachers at those schools are not going to be able to get most of their kids to be at the same standard as my kids middle class school with parents who are able to help their kids personally or finding tutors.

The parents that leave schools because their kids are not accepted into AAP are ones who probably could have chosen a different base school. I have little sympathy for their plight because they choose that house in that location in that school boundary.

There are a lot of assumptions made in this post about everything from why a parent chooses a home to how easy/hard it is to manage a monthly payment for a $10K bill versus coming up with a down payment of $300,000 plus mortgage payments for a house.

While this may be true for some parents, that certainly isn't the case for most. There are only a few school pyramids where the elementary, middle and high school are all great. Usually families have to choose one. You cant blame parents for doing what will benefit their children. I dont think they're looking for sympathy, just what is best for their kid(s).

Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

I agree that different people want different things from different schools and many parents with children at schools with lower GS scores are happy there. But the ones who complain on DCUM, they didn't want to buy a house in Burke and then they complain that FCPS is terrible.

Where can I get a town house for 300k in a great pyramid?

The PP is off about Burke prices right now by about 100k--but you can get a townhouse there for around 400-480K right now--and in general in a decent school pyramid (e.g., Robinson, Lake Braddock, West Springfield).

PP here. Currently, inventory of townhouses in Burke starts at $400k. It's not the right time to buy a house though. Looking at sold records, there are townhouses in the $300s, if that's your budget, and if you prioritize schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because for UMC parents, AAP placement is a status symbol, and they're not going to let you take that away from them.

100% this. This is the reason. Our school had a mass exodus for private school in 3rd and 4th grade and two close friends confided it was because their kids didn't get into AAP.

General ed is terrible in some schools as well and many will choose private over leaving their kid in failing classrooms.

I suspect that parents who are leaving for private because the schools are not great and their kid could not leave the school for the Center are parents who could have bought a different house in boundary with a better ES. If you can find the money for private school, you can find the money for a different house. These tend to be the people who want the bigger house, for less money, and an amazing school. While that is the ideal, there is not anyone in the area who isn't aware that doesn't tend to happen. You read about this in the DC forums were parents end up upset that they have to send their kid to private or Arlington because they couldn't get into the schools that they want through the lottery and the neighborhood school is not what they want for the kid.

General Ed is not uniform across the County because there are clusters of wealth and poverty with some bleeding in between. Kids who come from poverty have parents with different educational starting points and goals for their kids. I would bet that many of the kids that attend some of the schools that people here disparage have parents who are happy that their kid can go to school at all because school was not a guarantee in their home countries. Middle class families are buying houses in those areas because the houses are far more affordable and then lean on AAP to move schools because they don't like the base school.

Do I think that in the ideal world all kids would have the same opportunities? Yes. Is this happening in reality? No. You cannot present kids who arrive at school having not been read to or playing math games or learning colors and shapes to be at the same starting point as kids whose parents have Nannies who are expected to be working on academics or sent to preschools that work on academics or have parents who read to the kids nightly and try and find enriching activities for the kids. Realistically speaking, the schools with a higher level of kids living in poverty or near poverty are at a different starting point and the expectation that the Teachers at those schools are not going to be able to get most of their kids to be at the same standard as my kids middle class school with parents who are able to help their kids personally or finding tutors.

The parents that leave schools because their kids are not accepted into AAP are ones who probably could have chosen a different base school. I have little sympathy for their plight because they choose that house in that location in that school boundary.

There are a lot of assumptions made in this post about everything from why a parent chooses a home to how easy/hard it is to manage a monthly payment for a $10K bill versus coming up with a down payment of $300,000 plus mortgage payments for a house.

While this may be true for some parents, that certainly isn't the case for most. There are only a few school pyramids where the elementary, middle and high school are all great. Usually families have to choose one. You cant blame parents for doing what will benefit their children. I dont think they're looking for sympathy, just what is best for their kid(s).

Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

I agree that different people want different things from different schools and many parents with children at schools with lower GS scores are happy there. But the ones who complain on DCUM, they didn't want to buy a house in Burke and then they complain that FCPS is terrible.

No, we bought a house in Burke for the "excellent" schools, stuck with horrible Gen Ed through 4th grade and then pulled DD out for private. So we get the expensive mortgage AND tuition. The people who bought a newer, bigger house for less money seem to be the wiser ones.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

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My kids scored pass advanced on all of their SOLs. It's not a huge hurdle. At the very least, if both the SOL score and teacher indicate that a child would be better served in gen ed, the child should be removed from AAP.

My kid's best friend in AAP is brilliant in math He can explain math concepts and solve spatial problems at a very high level--he intuitively seems to use calculus etc. He's regularly solves competition style math problems. But ask him to do basic 3-4th grade computation and his work is riddled with errors--he just flubs up a lot. Not this thing. If he uses a calculator he can do higher level math, but he would likely not pass the elementary math SOL. Kids at the higher end can be really quirky and uneven in their performance. They still need advanced educational supports. SO definitely there needs to be multiple measures besides the SoL

Let's un-derail the conversation. In the case of your kid's friend, the teacher would likely recognize the kid's brilliance and advocate to keep him in AAP. This is different from kids who are scoring poorly on SOLs AND the teacher thinks the kid is struggling. Many kids get accepted into AAP who are somewhat above average, and got in mostly because they're privileged and prepped for the tests. If the kid is demonstrating that he can't hack it both via tests and via teacher recommendation, then the kid should be returned to gen ed. There are more AAP kids in this group than you might imagine.

A large part of the problem is that FCPS is lumping together the gifted kids and the somewhat advanced kids into a single program when they have very different needs.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

Burke is right by the VRE. 30ish min comfortable train ride into DC with wifi. Pentagon bus similar time to Pentagon subway. I agree though with your point about segregation.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

How, the high school with no farms students is not a reasonable commute from the high schools with 40% or more farms students.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

Money has nothing to do with it. Parents not being able to help their children or provide a supportive educational environment at home is the reason these kids fall behind.

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My kids scored pass advanced on all of their SOLs. It's not a huge hurdle. At the very least, if both the SOL score and teacher indicate that a child would be better served in gen ed, the child should be removed from AAP.

My kid's best friend in AAP is brilliant in math He can explain math concepts and solve spatial problems at a very high level--he intuitively seems to use calculus etc. He's regularly solves competition style math problems. But ask him to do basic 3-4th grade computation and his work is riddled with errors--he just flubs up a lot. Not this thing. If he uses a calculator he can do higher level math, but he would likely not pass the elementary math SOL. Kids at the higher end can be really quirky and uneven in their performance. They still need advanced educational supports. SO definitely there needs to be multiple measures besides the SoL

Let's un-derail the conversation. In the case of your kid's friend, the teacher would likely recognize the kid's brilliance and advocate to keep him in AAP. This is different from kids who are scoring poorly on SOLs AND the teacher thinks the kid is struggling. Many kids get accepted into AAP who are somewhat above average, and got in mostly because they're privileged and prepped for the tests. If the kid is demonstrating that he can't hack it both via tests and via teacher recommendation, then the kid should be returned to gen ed. There are more AAP kids in this group than you might imagine.

A large part of the problem is that FCPS is lumping together the gifted kids and the somewhat advanced kids into a single program when they have very different needs.

I don't think my example derailed the conversation. 1) It was an example that shows one of the problems of just using SoLs. 2) Sometimes teachers DON'T recognize the brilliance of quirky kids. They see a kid who does messy work and makes a lot of mistakes. There's a wide range of perceptiveness in teachers and they have their own biases. 3) Putting a teacher in a role to remove kids from AAP puts a lot of pressure on them and makes them subject to hostility from parents. 4) Putting SoLs in a gatekeeping function will pressure AAP teachers to teach to them more which few AAP parents would want.

I think it would be more effective to use all those measures as an established signal to a parents that it would be recommended to reconsider AAP, but not a requirement.

My kids aren't particularly "quirky", find school and tests easy, and are both on the higher end of giftedness (WISC>140) so I get the issue you're talking about. My kids are also not at a center where prepping is the norm so I may worry about it less than you.
But I think your proposed solution has too many flaws.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

Money has nothing to do with it. Parents not being able to help their children or provide a supportive educational environment at home is the reason these kids fall behind.

Sure, all of the parents who don't care just happen to be centered in a few pyramids, and those pyramids also just happen to have the highest percentage of FARMs students in the county. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence and has nothing to do with a segregated school system

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My kids scored pass advanced on all of their SOLs. It's not a huge hurdle. At the very least, if both the SOL score and teacher indicate that a child would be better served in gen ed, the child should be removed from AAP.

My kid's best friend in AAP is brilliant in math He can explain math concepts and solve spatial problems at a very high level--he intuitively seems to use calculus etc. He's regularly solves competition style math problems. But ask him to do basic 3-4th grade computation and his work is riddled with errors--he just flubs up a lot. Not this thing. If he uses a calculator he can do higher level math, but he would likely not pass the elementary math SOL. Kids at the higher end can be really quirky and uneven in their performance. They still need advanced educational supports. SO definitely there needs to be multiple measures besides the SoL

Let's un-derail the conversation. In the case of your kid's friend, the teacher would likely recognize the kid's brilliance and advocate to keep him in AAP. This is different from kids who are scoring poorly on SOLs AND the teacher thinks the kid is struggling. Many kids get accepted into AAP who are somewhat above average, and got in mostly because they're privileged and prepped for the tests. If the kid is demonstrating that he can't hack it both via tests and via teacher recommendation, then the kid should be returned to gen ed. There are more AAP kids in this group than you might imagine.

A large part of the problem is that FCPS is lumping together the gifted kids and the somewhat advanced kids into a single program when they have very different needs.

I don't think my example derailed the conversation. 1) It was an example that shows one of the problems of just using SoLs. 2) Sometimes teachers DON'T recognize the brilliance of quirky kids. They see a kid who does messy work and makes a lot of mistakes. There's a wide range of perceptiveness in teachers and they have their own biases. 3) Putting a teacher in a role to remove kids from AAP puts a lot of pressure on them and makes them subject to hostility from parents. 4) Putting SoLs in a gatekeeping function will pressure AAP teachers to teach to them more which few AAP parents would want.

I think it would be more effective to use all those measures as an established signal to a parents that it would be recommended to reconsider AAP, but not a requirement.

My kids aren't particularly "quirky", find school and tests easy, and are both on the higher end of giftedness (WISC>140) so I get the issue you're talking about. My kids are also not at a center where prepping is the norm so I may worry about it less than you.
But I think your proposed solution has too many flaws.

So testing is fine, as long as it's only done once and any mistake admitting a kid into the program is never acknowledged?

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

Money has nothing to do with it. Parents not being able to help their children or provide a supportive educational environment at home is the reason these kids fall behind.

Sure, all of the parents who don't care just happen to be centered in a few pyramids, and those pyramids also just happen to have the highest percentage of FARMs students in the county. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence and has nothing to do with a segregated school system

DP. Do you know what segregated means? Are you purposefully misusing the word?

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I don't think my example derailed the conversation. 1) It was an example that shows one of the problems of just using SoLs. 2) Sometimes teachers DON'T recognize the brilliance of quirky kids. They see a kid who does messy work and makes a lot of mistakes. There's a wide range of perceptiveness in teachers and they have their own biases. 3) Putting a teacher in a role to remove kids from AAP puts a lot of pressure on them and makes them subject to hostility from parents. 4) Putting SoLs in a gatekeeping function will pressure AAP teachers to teach to them more which few AAP parents would want.

I think it would be more effective to use all those measures as an established signal to a parents that it would be recommended to reconsider AAP, but not a requirement.

My kids aren't particularly "quirky", find school and tests easy, and are both on the higher end of giftedness (WISC>140) so I get the issue you're talking about. My kids are also not at a center where prepping is the norm so I may worry about it less than you.
But I think your proposed solution has too many flaws.

PP here. Sorry. . I wasn't referring to you with that, but rather all of the Burke and big house vs. schools stuff.

Honestly, the best solution would be to maintain the pace and rigor, and then let kids fail if they don't belong. Some centers already do this. Others teach to the lowest common denominator in AAP, which means that the gifted kids get nothing out of the program.

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Nah. In Fairfax County, there are a lot of pyramids that are good schools, with lots of families who prioritize education, with townhouses and SFH in the very reasonable range of $300-600k. But people choose other areas for bigger houses and then complain about the schools. The GS score was right there, when you bought your house.

You're forgetting to account for reasonable work commutes. Many of the strong pyramids with reasonably priced townhouses don't have viable commutes.

Also, recommending that upper middle class people move away from poor people just leads to even more gentrification and an even bigger divide between "good" schools and "bad" schools. A county as wealthy as Fairfax should be able to educate kids without this level of segregation.

Money has nothing to do with it. Parents not being able to help their children or provide a supportive educational environment at home is the reason these kids fall behind.

Sure, all of the parents who don't care just happen to be centered in a few pyramids, and those pyramids also just happen to have the highest percentage of FARMs students in the county. I'm sure it's totally a coincidence and has nothing to do with a segregated school system

DP. Do you know what segregated means? Are you purposefully misusing the word?

How many African Americans attend Langley? Calling Langley segregated is using the term inline with it's definition.