racist remarks at Sherwood vs Einstein game

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Um, other kids.

Everyone knows who was suspended for stealing something from a bathroom recently.

Everyone knows which boys cyber-bullied a girl a couple years back. Screenshots were circulated.

These racist incidents hit WaPo, everybody is talking about it yet nobody has leaked a name, gender or race? That’s weird. Really weird.

Nobody expects the WaPo to name names, but it’s really strange that students don’t know.

Could you please just go ahead and tell us your explanation for this weird phenomenon you are describing?

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I don’t have an explanation. That’s the point: everyone is baffled as to why seemingly nobody knows who did what. As others have said, everyone is talking about it, yet nobody knows who was involved. Very unusual.

[Anonymous]

I'm surprised MCPS doesn't have a policy against harassment and racism on school property, and that they allowed this behavior at games to continue and fester. Reading about Sherwood which I'd never heard of until now makes me very happy to have avoided that Olney area in house shopping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised MCPS doesn't have a policy against harassment and racism on school property, and that they allowed this behavior at games to continue and fester. Reading about Sherwood which I'd never heard of until now makes me very happy to have avoided that Olney area in house shopping

Tell us your zip code and school pyramid, and we can do a quick google search to find similar incidents in your neck of the woods.

Everyone is right to be upset. This is clearly inappropriate behavior. But it’s really weird how people are labeling the school (and now the entire area) as some racist outlier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Um, other kids.

Everyone knows who was suspended for stealing something from a bathroom recently.

Everyone knows which boys cyber-bullied a girl a couple years back. Screenshots were circulated.

These racist incidents hit WaPo, everybody is talking about it yet nobody has leaked a name, gender or race? That’s weird. Really weird.

Nobody expects the WaPo to name names, but it’s really strange that students don’t know.

Could you please just go ahead and tell us your explanation for this weird phenomenon you are describing?

?

I don’t have an explanation. That’s the point: everyone is baffled as to why seemingly nobody knows who did what. As others have said, everyone is talking about it, yet nobody knows who was involved. Very unusual.

I mean I don’t think it’s mysterious kids aren’t as sure of the identity of someone shouting words in a loud crowd vs stealing a urinal or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

Sherwood’s community isn’t really willing to discuss and address. There’s kicking and screaming from a large proportion of students and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

So, this is a really interesting (absurd) take, given that Sherwood coaches were approached about this and declined to take any action until after the Einstein administration made a fuss, AND given that the behavior happened a second time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Um, other kids.

Everyone knows who was suspended for stealing something from a bathroom recently.

Everyone knows which boys cyber-bullied a girl a couple years back. Screenshots were circulated.

These racist incidents hit WaPo, everybody is talking about it yet nobody has leaked a name, gender or race? That’s weird. Really weird.

Nobody expects the WaPo to name names, but it’s really strange that students don’t know.

Could you please just go ahead and tell us your explanation for this weird phenomenon you are describing?

Dp. Snitches get stitches. The racial slur hurling pig must have a broad reach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

PP, I'm going to assume that you didn't mean to imply that Einstein HS is where the REAL problems with racism are, not Sherwood HS. Right? You didn't mean to imply that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

I'm sorry; but this is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

I'm sorry; but this is nonsense.

How is it nonsense? The only thing I would tell the poster who posted this is that Sherwood isn't a poor, lower-income school.

I think that poster raises a valid insight. Doesn't take away from what Sherwood did - I absolutely believe students need to be punished but I don't deny there is racism among the poorer high schools in the cluster. What that poster said makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
How is it nonsense? The only thing I would tell the poster who posted this is that Sherwood isn't a poor, lower-income school.

I think that poster raises a valid insight. Doesn't take away from what Sherwood did - I absolutely believe students need to be punished but I don't deny there is racism among the poorer high schools in the cluster. What that poster said makes sense.

So, on this thread about the actual racist behavior of Sherwood HS students towards Einstein HS students, you want to discuss...the hypothetical racist behavior of students at other high schools in MCPS, such as Einstein HS.

What next?

"Doesn't take away from what Navy and Marine officers did in Las Vegas at the Tailhook convention in 1991, but I don't deny there is sexism among women."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am in the Sherwood Cluster, there is talk but no details. It is on Next Door for our neighborhood and people are discussing the problem as a whole in the area. The Principal is addressing the situation (2 different emails) and has reached out to address this with the other school prior to the Washington Post Article. Problem is MCPS does nothing toward accountability at any school, and this systemic problem starts at home.

Very true, but I'll add something else. I've been in numerous school systems, as a student and parent, both here and abroad, and in my experience and those of my friends, unchecked prejudices happen the most in lower-income, multi-ethnic districts, for two reasons:
1. Many low-information, low-income families of all ethnicities are extremely prejudiced about other races, and don't feel the pressure of being politically correct, like the middle and upper middle class.
2. The people in authority at school and community centers, etc, are busy managing what they perceive to be graver dangers such as gang violence, threats to life and property in and outside school, and serious challenges lower-income students face every day that prevent them from accessing education. Casual racism is just not a priority in that context.

Schools in wealthy white areas will often be accused of being extremely racist whenever incidents crop up in their neck of the woods, because their communities are willing to discuss and address all incidents, however minor, but the reality on the ground is that 99% of racist incidents at lower-income schools fly under the radar because there are other fires to put out and no one can be bothered to address them.

I'm sorry; but this is nonsense.

How is it nonsense? The only thing I would tell the poster who posted this is that Sherwood isn't a poor, lower-income school.

I think that poster raises a valid insight. Doesn't take away from what Sherwood did - I absolutely believe students need to be punished but I don't deny there is racism among the poorer high schools in the cluster. What that poster said makes sense.

As somebody who went to Einstein in the 90s, you better believe there was racism from every racial group. It was not OK then and it’s not OK now.

[Anonymous]

I remember being called a "man" in middle school during pe class simply because I ran faster than the boys. Sherwood fans seem to be namecalling due to their teams' (or their own) inadequacies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised MCPS doesn't have a policy against harassment and racism on school property, and that they allowed this behavior at games to continue and fester. Reading about Sherwood which I'd never heard of until now makes me very happy to have avoided that Olney area in house shopping

Tell us your zip code and school pyramid, and we can do a quick google search to find similar incidents in your neck of the woods.

Everyone is right to be upset. This is clearly inappropriate behavior. But it’s really weird how people are labeling the school (and now the entire area) as some racist outlier.

Actually the area we live is diverse and people tend to be very respectful of each other here. I didn't want to live in a more homogenous area because incidents like what's going on in Sherwood tend to happen.