Cheating during MAP M

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a kid cheat on the MAP? If anything, a low score on a MAP is damning to the school, not the student. I don't know any kids under the illusion that MAP is like report card grades, SAT scores, etc. It's just not talked about the same way.

+100

That was my first reaction too.

You gotta be pretty stupid to WANT to cheat on the MAP

You gotta be pretty stupid to NOT KNOW that MAP scores count for magnet admissions. Especially now that CogAt is eliminated.

You have to be pretty stupid to imagine that very many kids WANT to go to magnet schools with a long commute away from their friends. Only the tiger moms care about magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I asked my pretty reliable kid about this last night, since I was curious about the claims that it was impossible, or that there was teacher error involved.

According to my HS-aged kid, there are two ways to access the MAP test - either with a browser extension or via a website.

Some teachers advise the kids to go to the website, and others tell them to use the browser extension. Either way, no one checks. One of the two ways would allow other tabs to be open at the same time.

My kid said this isn’t true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, this doesn’t seem accurate. Chromebooks are locked during the testing. They can’t open any other sites

This. There's no way to actually do this in MCPS.
And at our school teachers are monitoring from the back so they can see the screens.
In virtual our school also made the children have cameras on and they were very strict about monitoring. They would ping the student on Zoom if they looked off task or anything else strange going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a very suspect story. Based on everything I know it is impossible. The OP seems to be reporting on substantiated rumors at best or deliberately spreading outright lies. Regardless this has no merit.

I think OP is a troll or a really ignorant parent trying to stir up trouble. I know this isn't possible in the classroom and even if someone figured a way around it WHO CARES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked my pretty reliable kid about this last night, since I was curious about the claims that it was impossible, or that there was teacher error involved.

According to my HS-aged kid, there are two ways to access the MAP test - either with a browser extension or via a website.

Some teachers advise the kids to go to the website, and others tell them to use the browser extension. Either way, no one checks. One of the two ways would allow other tabs to be open at the same time.

My kid said this isn’t true.

When taking the MAP virtually, chrome books had to be muted. So mine tired to use Alexa to do the math. I shut that down as soon as I heard him and had a talk afterwards about cheating. Kids are creative and smart. In person, I would imagine it is very difficult to cheat but probably not impossible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked my pretty reliable kid about this last night, since I was curious about the claims that it was impossible, or that there was teacher error involved.

According to my HS-aged kid, there are two ways to access the MAP test - either with a browser extension or via a website.

Some teachers advise the kids to go to the website, and others tell them to use the browser extension. Either way, no one checks. One of the two ways would allow other tabs to be open at the same time.

If you did it on your own computer, but the MCPS issued Chromebooks are managed. Kids don't have any of those options, nor can they install browser extensions.

Many browser extensions are available on chromebooks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a kid cheat on the MAP? If anything, a low score on a MAP is damning to the school, not the student. I don't know any kids under the illusion that MAP is like report card grades, SAT scores, etc. It's just not talked about the same way.

Once again, if you're in the running for a magnet program, or even for taking an advanced course, such as algebra in 6th, MAP scores count.

And if you "don't know any kids who talk about MAP scores" that only means one thing: your own are too behind to qualify for magnets. At my child's CES MAPs were discussed. Yes, MAPs. Yes, among 5th graders.

I'm the PP you quoted. Thank you for your explanation (a little patronizing/condescending, but at least you didn't call anyone stupid like the other PPs - maybe that's the best we can do on DCUM?). I think we'll never know if this thread was real or made up. Would still like to know how the cheating would happen technically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a very suspect story. Based on everything I know it is impossible. The OP seems to be reporting on substantiated rumors at best or deliberately spreading outright lies. Regardless this has no merit.

I think OP is a troll or a really ignorant parent trying to stir up trouble. I know this isn't possible in the classroom and even if someone figured a way around it WHO CARES.

I agree. Probably one of those people who keeps posting about "cram schools" in the magnet threads. Seems to be a lot of conspiratorial thinking around magnet programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a very suspect story. Based on everything I know it is impossible. The OP seems to be reporting on substantiated rumors at best or deliberately spreading outright lies. Regardless this has no merit.

I think OP is a troll or a really ignorant parent trying to stir up trouble. I know this isn't possible in the classroom and even if someone figured a way around it WHO CARES.

Yes, it isn't possible. The chromebooks are locked down. They're posting fiction to stir up resentment and grievance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a very suspect story. Based on everything I know it is impossible. The OP seems to be reporting on substantiated rumors at best or deliberately spreading outright lies. Regardless this has no merit.

I think OP is a troll or a really ignorant parent trying to stir up trouble. I know this isn't possible in the classroom and even if someone figured a way around it WHO CARES.

I agree. Probably one of those people who keeps posting about "cram schools" in the magnet threads. Seems to be a lot of conspiratorial thinking around magnet programs.

There’s a lot of anger that the demographics are shifting.

[Anonymous]

You can log directly into the testing software or go to the site from a web page on chrome to take the test. I assume this is how the kid was cheating. It’s easy to catch, just see if the kid as tabs open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a very suspect story. Based on everything I know it is impossible. The OP seems to be reporting on substantiated rumors at best or deliberately spreading outright lies. Regardless this has no merit.

I think OP is a troll or a really ignorant parent trying to stir up trouble. I know this isn't possible in the classroom and even if someone figured a way around it WHO CARES.

I agree. Probably one of those people who keeps posting about "cram schools" in the magnet threads. Seems to be a lot of conspiratorial thinking around magnet programs.

There’s a lot of anger that the demographics are shifting.

I don't know about people googling during the test. That's not supposed to be possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked my pretty reliable kid about this last night, since I was curious about the claims that it was impossible, or that there was teacher error involved.

According to my HS-aged kid, there are two ways to access the MAP test - either with a browser extension or via a website.

Some teachers advise the kids to go to the website, and others tell them to use the browser extension. Either way, no one checks. One of the two ways would allow other tabs to be open at the same time.

My kid said this isn’t true.

When taking the MAP virtually, chrome books had to be muted. So mine tired to use Alexa to do the math. I shut that down as soon as I heard him and had a talk afterwards about cheating. Kids are creative and smart. In person, I would imagine it is very difficult to cheat but probably not impossible.

That’s interesting, because for us they didn’t allow kids to mute for that very reason

[Anonymous]

Same here. In covid, cameras and mics were on which my child found distracting because the teacher would occasionally call a child out in front of the rest of the kids.

[Anonymous]

True or not I couldn’t possibly care less.