Cheating during MAP M

[Anonymous]

Lol. I was wondering about whether DS was cheating during exams/tests during online school last year. I asked several times and he said no (but he lies at times—particularly, when it comes to screen time. And yes, we have been working on it). So, it sounds like students can actually cheat? I did not see DS cheating or anything, but I was always wondering how he was able to get good grades without putting in much effort!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol. I was wondering about whether DS was cheating during exams/tests during online school last year. I asked several times and he said no (but he lies at times—particularly, when it comes to screen time. And yes, we have been working on it). So, it sounds like students can actually cheat? I did not see DS cheating or anything, but I was always wondering how he was able to get good grades without putting in much effort!

Because last year they received 50% even if they did not do an assignment and were allowed multiple retakes. Lots of kids got good grades last year who did not actually deserve it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol. I was wondering about whether DS was cheating during exams/tests during online school last year. I asked several times and he said no (but he lies at times—particularly, when it comes to screen time. And yes, we have been working on it). So, it sounds like students can actually cheat? I did not see DS cheating or anything, but I was always wondering how he was able to get good grades without putting in much effort!

Students can cheat, but not the way OP described because of the software. However, cheating on MAP M is limited because the test adjusts so it gets harder and harder. A student could hypothetically cheat using their cellphone and last year, students got help from parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. I was wondering about whether DS was cheating during exams/tests during online school last year. I asked several times and he said no (but he lies at times—particularly, when it comes to screen time. And yes, we have been working on it). So, it sounds like students can actually cheat? I did not see DS cheating or anything, but I was always wondering how he was able to get good grades without putting in much effort!

Students can cheat, but not the way OP described because of the software. However, cheating on MAP M is limited because the test adjusts so it gets harder and harder. A student could hypothetically cheat using their cellphone and last year, students got help from parents.

I thought cellphones are not allowed in classrooms, no?

[Anonymous]

Why would a kid cheat on the MAP? If anything, a low score on a MAP is damning to the school, not the student. I don't know any kids under the illusion that MAP is like report card grades, SAT scores, etc. It's just not talked about the same way.

[Anonymous]

OP are you sure that your kid isn’t trying to bully the smart kid in the class by spreading false rumors? Is your kid hyper competitive and wants to hide that he didn’t earn a high score so he’s telling you that the others cheat? Are you one of the parents who says studying math outside is cheating and using racist terms like tiger mom to dismiss Asian Americans who achieve high scores? Maybe your kid picked up on this and is trying to be like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP are you sure that your kid isn’t trying to bully the smart kid in the class by spreading false rumors? Is your kid hyper competitive and wants to hide that he didn’t earn a high score so he’s telling you that the others cheat? Are you one of the parents who says studying math outside is cheating and using racist terms like tiger mom to dismiss Asian Americans who achieve high scores? Maybe your kid picked up on this and is trying to be like you.

This! My kid takes higher math than his classmates. He is in middle. There was a rumor that his parents “bribed” the math teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would a kid cheat on the MAP? If anything, a low score on a MAP is damning to the school, not the student. I don't know any kids under the illusion that MAP is like report card grades, SAT scores, etc. It's just not talked about the same way.

Completely agree. I didn't know people took MAP M so seriously or actually prepared for this MAP stuff till I came to DCUM. I thought it was a self evaluation tool. Why would a kid cheat on something like this? Asian parent here with both kids at magnets (pre lottery).

[Anonymous]

Perhaps some chromebooks were left unlocked, but the reality is that even if you search for answers, it won't help you much.

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Anonymous wrote:No this was on the chrome book

Yeah the chrome books have software where the teacher can lockdown the browser so that students can't go anywhere on the internet but the test.

Sounds like either this is not true, or the teacher made a big mistake and didn't lockdown the browser.

But does the software works? Does it actually lock the browser or do they just say it to deter the kids? The incident is true and acc to my kid there was a whole thing with the teacher, parents and the principal

It actually locks. It is not a lie… in addition to the teacher locking the computers, the teacher must walk around and monitor without any distractions. On top of that, the teacher is being supervised by an additional adult in the room. I find the cheating to be highly unlikely

I don't find it unlikely that they'd try to cheat. I also don't find it surprising that the plan to prevent cheating worked.

I don't know how OP went from "someone tried to cheat on a test and got caught" to OMG people must be cheating rampantly!

Cheat on MAP-M? No. Not likely at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how idiotic rumors get started. A mom from school called me and told me that my son is suspended for something stupid. She heard it from her son and another mom. My son had no idea what they were talking about. I called the school and they were not aware of any disciplinary issues.

That's terrible. I hope she apologized and told her son not to spread rumors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a kid cheat on the MAP? If anything, a low score on a MAP is damning to the school, not the student. I don't know any kids under the illusion that MAP is like report card grades, SAT scores, etc. It's just not talked about the same way.

Completely agree. I didn't know people took MAP M so seriously or actually prepared for this MAP stuff till I came to DCUM. I thought it was a self evaluation tool. Why would a kid cheat on something like this? Asian parent here with both kids at magnets (pre lottery).

Kids don't take it that seriously. Just the opposite. Most classrooms the teachers have to implore the kids to take it seriously. There are a small subset of kids that brag about their scores because they get them immediately after they are done. But I have learned from talking to parents that in my DCs class a lot of those kids are lying.

Actual cheating on the MAP-M is just not a thing that could be real, because its difficult from proctoring but also the incentives are just not there for the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Perhaps some chromebooks were left unlocked, but the reality is that even if you search for answers, it won't help you much.

Plus, the scoring is dynamic. The more questions you get right, the harder the questions get. But... only within the allocated time. If you spend all your time looking up answers, you will answer fewer and even if all answers are 100% correct you still get a lower score. The is a dumb story that lacks credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:No this was on the chrome book

Yeah the chrome books have software where the teacher can lockdown the browser so that students can't go anywhere on the internet but the test.

Sounds like either this is not true, or the teacher made a big mistake and didn't lockdown the browser.

But does the software works? Does it actually lock the browser or do they just say it to deter the kids? The incident is true and acc to my kid there was a whole thing with the teacher, parents and the principal

It actually locks. It is not a lie… in addition to the teacher locking the computers, the teacher must walk around and monitor without any distractions. On top of that, the teacher is being supervised by an additional adult in the room. I find the cheating to be highly unlikely

I don't find it unlikely that they'd try to cheat. I also don't find it surprising that the plan to prevent cheating worked.

I don't know how OP went from "someone tried to cheat on a test and got caught" to OMG people must be cheating rampantly!

Cheat on MAP-M? No. Not likely at all.

But OP doesn't claim that this kid cheated. She claims that this kid tried to cheat, and got caught. That is totally believable. Kids will try, even if trying doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Perhaps some chromebooks were left unlocked, but the reality is that even if you search for answers, it won't help you much.

Plus, the scoring is dynamic. The more questions you get right, the harder the questions get. But... only within the allocated time. If you spend all your time looking up answers, you will answer fewer and even if all answers are 100% correct you still get a lower score. The is a dumb story that lacks credibility.

There is no time limit on MAP tests.