Openly Gay Player

[Anonymous]

I think the joke illustrates why a lot of people do not like the program. It has a reputation for being hyper competitive, win at all costs. Parents pound their chests about rec wins as if they are compensating for something. If you don't believe me, wait for the responses this post and you will see what I mean.

[Anonymous]

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I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

What is crazy is the idea that the other kids on the team give a flying eff about the OPs kids sexuality. They don't. If the OPs son wants to tell them, that's all about him and what he wants. Pure attention-seeking. It is not anything to do with the other kids, who don't care, and still wouldn't care if they found out "by accident".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Second the poster who wrote that this generation of kids doesn't care at all about this stuff.

Open or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the preponderance of gay athletes, particularly in women's sports. Take a look at your roster - at least 40 percent of its members are probably gay. And no one cares. It's a great development among this generation, IMO.

10% would be on the higher end of the estimated range, assuming you're legitimately discussing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Second the poster who wrote that this generation of kids doesn't care at all about this stuff.

Open or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the preponderance of gay athletes, particularly in women's sports. Take a look at your roster - at least 40 percent of its members are probably gay. And no one cares. It's a great development among this generation, IMO.

10% would be on the higher end of the estimated range, assuming you're legitimately discussing.

10% general population, 40% of women's athletes. That's what the PP is saying. And it's great that there is no judgement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

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Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

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I'm not triggered, I actually said it's sad that you thought you were being nice and your homophobia is so ingrain you put it on full display and did not even know it.

I'm sorry if you are triggered by pointing out where you were socialized to be homophobic and to use language that not only is just wrong, but also could hurt others. You did this on a thread for a woman who is in fear for her child's well being.

It is not the job of LGBTQ children or their parents to educate coaches, if you are not qualified, don't coach. Ask the league to provide training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

What is crazy is the idea that the other kids on the team give a flying eff about the OPs kids sexuality. They don't. If the OPs son wants to tell them, that's all about him and what he wants. Pure attention-seeking. It is not anything to do with the other kids, who don't care, and still wouldn't care if they found out "by accident".

Of course lax is not a welcoming sport for lgbt boys. Name one openly gay professional lax player. Name one openly gay college lax player,

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

missed one

Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

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I'm not triggered, I actually said it's sad that you thought you were being nice and your homophobia is so ingrain you put it on full display and did not even know it.

I'm sorry if you are triggered by pointing out where you were socialized to be homophobic and to use language that not only is just wrong, but also could hurt others. You did this on a thread for a woman who is in fear for her child's well being.

It is not the job of LGBTQ children or their parents to educate coaches, if you are not qualified, don't coach. Ask the league to provide training.

Wait, are we talking about qualifications to coach the sport or to coach 12 girls and one transexual female?

Also, can you point to where OP raised concerns for her child's wellbeing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

missed one

Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

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I'm not triggered, I actually said it's sad that you thought you were being nice and your homophobia is so ingrain you put it on full display and did not even know it.

I'm sorry if you are triggered by pointing out where you were socialized to be homophobic and to use language that not only is just wrong, but also could hurt others. You did this on a thread for a woman who is in fear for her child's well being.

It is not the job of LGBTQ children or their parents to educate coaches, if you are not qualified, don't coach. Ask the league to provide training.

Your post is a great example of why LGBTQ kids aren't more accepted. Talk about clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

What is crazy is the idea that the other kids on the team give a flying eff about the OPs kids sexuality. They don't. If the OPs son wants to tell them, that's all about him and what he wants. Pure attention-seeking. It is not anything to do with the other kids, who don't care, and still wouldn't care if they found out "by accident".

Of course lax is not a welcoming sport for lgbt boys. Name one openly gay professional lax player. Name one openly gay college lax player,

I don't care at all about professional sports. I can't name any professional sports players of any kind, whether straight, gay, or whatever. Does not move my ZFG needle at all if there are, or are not, any openly gay college or pro lax players.

What I do know is that my son and his friends, who are high school lax players, have openly gay classmates and simply could not care less about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

missed one

Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

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I'm not triggered, I actually said it's sad that you thought you were being nice and your homophobia is so ingrain you put it on full display and did not even know it.

I'm sorry if you are triggered by pointing out where you were socialized to be homophobic and to use language that not only is just wrong, but also could hurt others. You did this on a thread for a woman who is in fear for her child's well being.

It is not the job of LGBTQ children or their parents to educate coaches, if you are not qualified, don't coach. Ask the league to provide training.

Wait, are we talking about qualifications to coach the sport or to coach 12 girls and one transexual female?

Also, can you point to where OP raised concerns for her child's wellbeing?

Coaches should be qualified to coach 12 year old girls... yes, that should be a qualification. How is this a question.

It's either on page 2 or 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

What is crazy is the idea that the other kids on the team give a flying eff about the OPs kids sexuality. They don't. If the OPs son wants to tell them, that's all about him and what he wants. Pure attention-seeking. It is not anything to do with the other kids, who don't care, and still wouldn't care if they found out "by accident".

Of course lax is not a welcoming sport for lgbt boys. Name one openly gay professional lax player. Name one openly gay college lax player,

I don't care at all about professional sports. I can't name any professional sports players of any kind, whether straight, gay, or whatever. Does not move my ZFG needle at all if there are, or are not, any openly gay college or pro lax players.

What I do know is that my son and his friends, who are high school lax players, have openly gay classmates and simply could not care less about it.

So your son's lax team has openly gay players.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

missed one

Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

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I'm not triggered, I actually said it's sad that you thought you were being nice and your homophobia is so ingrain you put it on full display and did not even know it.

I'm sorry if you are triggered by pointing out where you were socialized to be homophobic and to use language that not only is just wrong, but also could hurt others. You did this on a thread for a woman who is in fear for her child's well being.

It is not the job of LGBTQ children or their parents to educate coaches, if you are not qualified, don't coach. Ask the league to provide training.

Your post is a great example of why LGBTQ kids aren't more accepted. Talk about clueless.

Where in any of my posts did I imply it was not acceptable? I made a point of saying she was receiving encouraging cheers and it took me a minute to realize what was occurring. Understanding isn't the same as acceptance.

So based on your governance structure, the coaches can't say anything, they need to simply know this, without speaking about it, and obviously the parents of the child should not have to say anything. That is some quality communication occurring there. Do words travel easily through the sand?

[Anonymous]

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So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

[Anonymous]

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So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

1. So again you can’t name 1 openly gay player which means men playing lacrosse choose not to be out. There is a reason for this.

2. You are saying your son’s environment is no different than rural areas when it comes to acceptance of gay children. Are you dense?

3. Nobody is asking “the whole world” to do anything. OP is asking if there are any openly gay children on lacrosse teams and how are they treated. You don’t know so you can’t really say.

[Anonymous]

If you feel like the team is not open to gay players I would steer him to a different team, a different group of kids. The reasons don't matter, if a group of people don't align with your values, it makes sense to move on. There are plenty of sports that are very gay-friendly. Or, choose to be the trailblazer but understand thats a path that can be tough.