Openly Gay Player

[Anonymous]

Interesting perspective. What are the most gay friendly sports for kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting perspective. What are the most gay friendly sports for kids?

For boys... cross country

For girls, all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you feel like the team is not open to gay players I would steer him to a different team, a different group of kids. The reasons don't matter, if a group of people don't align with your values, it makes sense to move on. There are plenty of sports that are very gay-friendly. Or, choose to be the trailblazer but understand thats a path that can be tough.

This is akin to ... if you boss is sexually harassing you get another job, or moving colleges because you were assaulted. The child should not have to change his whole life becuase of bigotry.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like the team is not open to gay players I would steer him to a different team, a different group of kids. The reasons don't matter, if a group of people don't align with your values, it makes sense to move on. There are plenty of sports that are very gay-friendly. Or, choose to be the trailblazer but understand thats a path that can be tough.

This is akin to ... if you boss is sexually harassing you get another job, or moving colleges because you were assaulted. The child should not have to change his whole life becuase of bigotry.

I said different team first. Sorry I just don’t think kids sports are so pivotal that you can’t change teams easily because you’ve got a group of jerk homophobes on your team. Changing your team to a nicer group of kids is not changing your entire life. Sure, a job or a college is a bigger deal. Changing teams not as big a deal. Or stand your ground. But what 12 year old boy really wants that responsibility to challenge the status quo. Do you actually have a teenager that has a hard time fitting in?

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like the team is not open to gay players I would steer him to a different team, a different group of kids. The reasons don't matter, if a group of people don't align with your values, it makes sense to move on. There are plenty of sports that are very gay-friendly. Or, choose to be the trailblazer but understand thats a path that can be tough.

This is akin to ... if you boss is sexually harassing you get another job, or moving colleges because you were assaulted. The child should not have to change his whole life becuase of bigotry.

I said different team first. Sorry I just don’t think kids sports are so pivotal that you can’t change teams easily because you’ve got a group of jerk homophobes on your team. Changing your team to a nicer group of kids is not changing your entire life. Sure, a job or a college is a bigger deal. Changing teams not as big a deal. Or stand your ground. But what 12 year old boy really wants that responsibility to challenge the status quo. Do you actually have a teenager that has a hard time fitting in?

No it’s not easy to change teams.

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Anonymous wrote:This generation of kids doesn't give 2 sh**s about that. They're much more tolerant than we were at that age.

I'm sure there are many exceptions, but I think this is true. Few people care.

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Anonymous wrote:This generation of kids doesn't give 2 sh**s about that. They're much more tolerant than we were at that age.

I'm sure there are many exceptions, but I think this is true. Few people care.

+1. DD is gay and it’s not relevant to her sports. Her friends are a range of gay, straight, bi, etc but when the team is together they are there to play lacrosse. None of that is coming up at practice or games. They don’t care at all. I have no idea about the sexual orientation of the others on the team, nor do I care.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel like the team is not open to gay players I would steer him to a different team, a different group of kids. The reasons don't matter, if a group of people don't align with your values, it makes sense to move on. There are plenty of sports that are very gay-friendly. Or, choose to be the trailblazer but understand thats a path that can be tough.

This is akin to ... if you boss is sexually harassing you get another job, or moving colleges because you were assaulted. The child should not have to change his whole life becuase of bigotry.

LMAO if you think moving to another lacrosse team represents changing his whole life. Kids switch teams all the time for many different reasons.

If you and your kid think the whole world needs to conform to your idea of cosmic justice, you are in for a whole world of disappointment.

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So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

1. So again you can’t name 1 openly gay player which means men playing lacrosse choose not to be out. There is a reason for this.

2. You are saying your son’s environment is no different than rural areas when it comes to acceptance of gay children. Are you dense?

3. Nobody is asking “the whole world” to do anything. OP is asking if there are any openly gay children on lacrosse teams and how are they treated. You don’t know so you can’t really say.

1. I can't name any openly gay players because my son has not told me there are any. The "reason for this" is he doesn't care, and I don't either.

2. My son's environment is an extremely liberal suburban one, dumb$h!t. If openly gay kids wanted to play lacrosse and were good at it, the other kids on the team would not care that they were gay.

3. The OP is crying like a girl because he wants the world to change so that lacrosse is "welcoming" so that his son won't be sad.

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Anonymous wrote:
So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

1. So again you can’t name 1 openly gay player which means men playing lacrosse choose not to be out. There is a reason for this.

2. You are saying your son’s environment is no different than rural areas when it comes to acceptance of gay children. Are you dense?

3. Nobody is asking “the whole world” to do anything. OP is asking if there are any openly gay children on lacrosse teams and how are they treated. You don’t know so you can’t really say.

1. I can't name any openly gay players because my son has not told me there are any. The "reason for this" is he doesn't care, and I don't either.

2. My son's environment is an extremely liberal suburban one, dumb$h!t. If openly gay kids wanted to play lacrosse and were good at it, the other kids on the team would not care that they were gay.

3. The OP is crying like a girl because he wants the world to change so that lacrosse is "welcoming" so that his son won't be sad.

Sounds like your son wouldn't tell you because you complain about someone "crying like a girl" Maybe your misogyny and homophobic bent ("...if openly gay kids....and we're good at it...as if they can't be gay and good) will skip a generation. For your sons sake I hope it does.

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Anonymous wrote:Second the poster who wrote that this generation of kids doesn't care at all about this stuff.

Open or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the preponderance of gay athletes, particularly in women's sports. Take a look at your roster - at least 40 percent of its members are probably gay. And no one cares. It's a great development among this generation, IMO.

10% would be on the higher end of the estimated range, assuming you're legitimately discussing.

10% general population, 40% of women's athletes. That's what the PP is saying. And it's great that there is no judgement.

Yes, this.

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Anonymous wrote:Second the poster who wrote that this generation of kids doesn't care at all about this stuff.

Open or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the preponderance of gay athletes, particularly in women's sports. Take a look at your roster - at least 40 percent of its members are probably gay. And no one cares. It's a great development among this generation, IMO.

10% would be on the higher end of the estimated range, assuming you're legitimately discussing.

10% general population, 40% of women's athletes. That's what the PP is saying. And it's great that there is no judgement.

Yes, this.

Honestly, 40 percent is probably low for professional women's athletes. But clearly not that high at the school age levels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

1. So again you can’t name 1 openly gay player which means men playing lacrosse choose not to be out. There is a reason for this.

2. You are saying your son’s environment is no different than rural areas when it comes to acceptance of gay children. Are you dense?

3. Nobody is asking “the whole world” to do anything. OP is asking if there are any openly gay children on lacrosse teams and how are they treated. You don’t know so you can’t really say.

1. I can't name any openly gay players because my son has not told me there are any. The "reason for this" is he doesn't care, and I don't either.

2. My son's environment is an extremely liberal suburban one, dumb$h!t. If openly gay kids wanted to play lacrosse and were good at it, the other kids on the team would not care that they were gay.

3. The OP is crying like a girl because he wants the world to change so that lacrosse is "welcoming" so that his son won't be sad.

Sounds like your son wouldn't tell you because you complain about someone "crying like a girl" Maybe your misogyny and homophobic bent ("...if openly gay kids....and we're good at it...as if they can't be gay and good) will skip a generation. For your sons sake I hope it does.

Nah, he would tell me. He knows that I don't care what any lacrosse player does off the field so long as they play well on the field.

homophobic bent ("...if openly gay kids....and we're good at it...as if they can't be gay and good) <-- You are very stupid as well as deliberately dishonest.

No lacrosse team is going to "welcome" an openly gay player just because they are gay. They will welcome any player, regardless of sexual orientation, who is a good player. Nothing about my remark excludes the possibility that a player could be both gay and good at lacrosse. Therefore your response is stupid and dishonest.

Now go away and cry like a girl.

[Anonymous]

Well, that is a rabid response after going dark for a week. I can't tell what side of the argument you are on or what you are saying, and I don't care, but you sound like an angry person. Best of luck working through your issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:
So your son's lax team has openly gay players. Not that I know of. The gay classmates don't play lacrosse.

Have you ever thought for 1 second, your son's team is not the same as every other team in the world. I don't think there is anything unusually tolerant about my son or his classmates. If they couldn't care less if someone is gay, no reason to think that is not representative of high school athlete attitudes in this area.

Also, have you ever thought for one second that the whole world does not revolve around whether or not lacrosse "welcomes" gay players?

1. So again you can’t name 1 openly gay player which means men playing lacrosse choose not to be out. There is a reason for this.

2. You are saying your son’s environment is no different than rural areas when it comes to acceptance of gay children. Are you dense?

3. Nobody is asking “the whole world” to do anything. OP is asking if there are any openly gay children on lacrosse teams and how are they treated. You don’t know so you can’t really say.

1. I can't name any openly gay players because my son has not told me there are any. The "reason for this" is he doesn't care, and I don't either.

2. My son's environment is an extremely liberal suburban one, dumb$h!t. If openly gay kids wanted to play lacrosse and were good at it, the other kids on the team would not care that they were gay.

3. The OP is crying like a girl because he wants the world to change so that lacrosse is "welcoming" so that his son won't be sad.

Sounds like your son wouldn't tell you because you complain about someone "crying like a girl" Maybe your misogyny and homophobic bent ("...if openly gay kids....and we're good at it...as if they can't be gay and good) will skip a generation. For your sons sake I hope it does.

Nah, he would tell me. He knows that I don't care what any lacrosse player does off the field so long as they play well on the field.

homophobic bent ("...if openly gay kids....and we're good at it...as if they can't be gay and good) <-- You are very stupid as well as deliberately dishonest.

No lacrosse team is going to "welcome" an openly gay player just because they are gay. They will welcome any player, regardless of sexual orientation, who is a good player. Nothing about my remark excludes the possibility that a player could be both gay and good at lacrosse. Therefore your response is stupid and dishonest.

Now go away and cry like a girl.

I feel like I must have struck a nerve. Is it that perhaps your son is gay and maybe you deep down know it but he's afraid to tell his homophobic dad because he would send him to his room to cry like a girl?