Openly Gay Player

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I have a son who is gay who is afraid to tell his teammates and it has been hurting me.

Why does he even want to tell his teammates? They don't want to know about it. Sounds like this is really all about him and his urge to say "look at me I'm special, don't you think I'm great?"

What kind of crazy thought is that? Clearly that is where the problem lies that someone would even think its motivated by someone who wants to be seen as special. My son is fearful that his teammates will find out and he doesn't want to be ostracized when he has heard some homophobic comments in the past. I would say whoever your kid is I'm glad he or she is being raised with your f*&ked up moral compass...a44hat.

This is the homophobic trope often spewed on right wing websites that kids come out for attention.

Sadly there is a tons of bigotry still. I'm sorry about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes he is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I coach girls U9 soccer and last year we played against a team that had a transsexual female, it was very clear he was a he (no he is not a he, she is a transgirl). They were in 2nd last year, 3rd now.

We played against the team she was on last week, girls are obviously older, with a bigger field and she was on this team again. Getting a lot of noticeably encouraging cheers, Went by the same name as a popular flower with a lot of L's in it.

I'm not there yet on my understanding of parents that segregate a child that early to be honest (I don't even know what the f you are talking about a transgril is playing with girls there is no segregation). But it's not up to me, nor do they need to provide me an explanation. I just haven't seen 7/8 year olds mistreat a kid because she believes she is a girl trapped in a boy's body (you probably could just say trans).

There are so many things wrong with your post and sadly I think you were trying to be nice.

Please educate me.

fixed it for you

missed one

Cool thanks. I was aware that the pronouns were probably wrong and this would be triggering for you. That's helpful, thanks. Maybe you could also see the point of view from people experiencing this for the very first time. Coaches are put in a new position as well.

[Anonymous]

This discussion does not belong on a lacrosse board. The fact that soccer and lacrosse are being used interchangeably sort of proves the point. I have my own opinions about the nine year old biological boy playing soccer with girls, which I will not express here. There is a thread entitled LGTB that would be perfect for these issues, so anybody who wants to have a genuine debate should go over to that thread and do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This discussion does not belong on a lacrosse board. The fact that soccer and lacrosse are being used interchangeably sort of proves the point. I have my own opinions about the nine year old biological boy playing soccer with girls, which I will not express here. There is a thread entitled LGTB that would be perfect for these issues, so anybody who wants to have a genuine debate should go over to that thread and do so.

Unless the OPs original question is really "is lacrosse as a sport more homophobic than other sports" and I don't know but I kind of feel like that was in part the OPs question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This discussion does not belong on a lacrosse board. The fact that soccer and lacrosse are being used interchangeably sort of proves the point. I have my own opinions about the nine year old biological boy playing soccer with girls, which I will not express here. There is a thread entitled LGTB that would be perfect for these issues, so anybody who wants to have a genuine debate should go over to that thread and do so.

Unless the OPs original question is really "is lacrosse as a sport more homophobic than other sports" and I don't know but I kind of feel like that was in part the OPs question.

There was an actual lacrosse incident in NVYLL where a male coach asked for he father of a transgender player if his child was a boy or girl and asked the officials to forfeit the game. The opposing coach was the father of that player. Should NVYLL have a policy or wait until another issue arises?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This discussion does not belong on a lacrosse board. The fact that soccer and lacrosse are being used interchangeably sort of proves the point. I have my own opinions about the nine year old biological boy playing soccer with girls, which I will not express here. There is a thread entitled LGTB that would be perfect for these issues, so anybody who wants to have a genuine debate should go over to that thread and do so.

Of you're referring to the page dedicated to LGBQ issues, I would respectfully disagree. As the poster of the soccer, gender related issues, I spend zero time on the LGBQ page. At best, it may belong in the general sports page because this is an issue occurring more frequently without clear answers and many ongoing questions.

[Anonymous]

NVYLL actually does have a policy, which was put in place due to that very incident. The policy is included in the long document of policies and procedures available on the NVYLL web page. I did not witness the incident, and I have no idea who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy" in the confrontation. Of course it is fashionable to assume that the trans person and their family were the victims, and the person who asked the question is the neanderthal. And, it is also fashionable to assume that Dulles South is always the bad guy. (full disclosure, I have had my share of run ins with DS, and not a fan of the program). But whatever happened that day, you will be glad to know that NVYLL does have a policy, which tries to walk the tightrope between having a fair playing field, but not offending the trans community.

The funny thing is that I would not put it past Dulles South to exploit the NVYLL policy and send out teams loaded with boys to bring home a bunch of girls championships!

But seriously, I don't think that debating whether one sport is more homophobic than another is an intelligent or worthwhile discussion. It is nothing more than trolling and stirring the pot, just like the OP on this thread appears to have intended.

[Anonymous]

Second the poster who wrote that this generation of kids doesn't care at all about this stuff.

Open or not, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice the preponderance of gay athletes, particularly in women's sports. Take a look at your roster - at least 40 percent of its members are probably gay. And no one cares. It's a great development among this generation, IMO.

[Anonymous]

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The funny thing is that I would not put it past Dulles South to exploit the NVYLL policy and send out teams loaded with boys to bring home a bunch of girls championships!

100% agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NVYLL actually does have a policy, which was put in place due to that very incident. The policy is included in the long document of policies and procedures available on the NVYLL web page. I did not witness the incident, and I have no idea who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy" in the confrontation. Of course it is fashionable to assume that the trans person and their family were the victims, and the person who asked the question is the neanderthal. And, it is also fashionable to assume that Dulles South is always the bad guy. (full disclosure, I have had my share of run ins with DS, and not a fan of the program). But whatever happened that day, you will be glad to know that NVYLL does have a policy, which tries to walk the tightrope between having a fair playing field, but not offending the trans community.

The funny thing is that I would not put it past Dulles South to exploit the NVYLL policy and send out teams loaded with boys to bring home a bunch of girls championships!

But seriously, I don't think that debating whether one sport is more homophobic than another is an intelligent or worthwhile discussion. It is nothing more than trolling and stirring the pot, just like the OP on this thread appears to have intended.

Does anybody know the specifics of this incident? I would be interested to hear them. If a biological boy played in a girls' game and dominated, is it not appropriate for the opposing coach to say something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The funny thing is that I would not put it past Dulles South to exploit the NVYLL policy and send out teams loaded with boys to bring home a bunch of girls championships!

100% agree

DS is a volunteer rec program that is a low cost option for all kids. I am not sure why anyone would not be a fan. We need more large rec programs that take all kids. The boys teams could care less about girls NVYLL championships. I do get that the comment was a joke but why the animosity toward a well run rec program?