Until you've been though recruiting you dont know what you dont know. With girls theres definately club connections between certain colleges and clubs going on. Theres also a lot of dont rock the boat. GA parents are doing the right thing shaking things up and calling ECNL parents BS out. Perception is often reality. |
You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online. Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading. You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention. |
oh the bitterness. |
I think the point is that, right now, players are getting a volume of commits deeper into the league for ECNL than GA. This may change in the future. But I haven’t seen anyone post any real data suggesting this is not accurate as to the last 5 years. Sure, top GA teams do very well and any GA team may get some commitments but the mid-tier ECNL team (50th-60th) in the recruiting window right now is doing better than the average mid-tier GA teams on this metric. Could of course change in the future but seems accurate right now. GA hats might spend less time complaining about the data or talking about trends and more time thinking about what ECNL might be doing better. PP suggested more showcases and more regional and geographically dispersed showcases is one factor. Maybe there are others. Maybe GA does have momentum and this will shift. I for one would like two more equally competitive leagues. But getting there will require some clear eyed thinking rather than complaining about the data or conspiracies about club relationships with college coaches. |
Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing". |
Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong. Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL. Proof is in the pudding. |
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/ Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented |
That’s one side of the equation. What’s on the other side? |
What's the "other side" of a fact? Iamyouthsoccers posts? |
of the ECNL and GA teams with 10 or more commitments for 2026, ECNL crushes the GA with 54 of the 61 teams a whopping 89%. I would call that a belt lashing |
If you are making a relative claim about the performance of one league vs the other, you'll need data points/facts about both sides to make a compelling point. 700 vs x? Matters if x =500 or =750 or =1500. |
This what you're describing isnt the "other side" of the fact that over 700 GA players in 2024 went on to play in college. You're proposing some kind of comparison between the two leagues. Which unfortunately is impossible unless you track the number of ECNL players going on to play in college yourself. This is because ECNL stopped posting the total number per season. (Hmmmm... Wonder why?) |
no need to post the numbers by ECNL, it is already understood if you want to play soccer in college, ECNL is the best pathway. https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146 just these numbers are ridiculous. of the ECNL and GA teams with 10 or more commitments for 2026, ECNL crushes the GA with 54 of the 61 teams a whopping 89%. I would call that a belt lashing |
idk. my dd has been to numerous YNT camps (over a dozen). she's already at an ACC school.
back when she started being called up, the players would ask the asst coaches there (college coaches are often brought in during the college off-season to help) what do they choose if they have an ecnl event at the same time as a GA event. the coaches that have been asked unanimously have answered "ecnl". not even close. are there good players and good teams in the GA? sure. but ecnl is just better. my dd's team never lost to a GA team when they had the opportunity to play (socal area). usually her team would crush GA competition. i can't remember a close game (unless they played up...but they still won). |
Again, this is the problem with iamsoccers posts. The guy is tracking VERBAL commitments that people have posted about online. (very odd for an ECNL coach to be doing with underage girls) Not everyone runs to the internet to post about what they've been offered by a college. Also very easy to fake or omit details to make whichever point they're trying to make. ECNL hats eat this kind of thing up. Which iamsoccer uses to sell college placement services. |