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This is not true according to law and science. |
Well it damn sure is true to anyone with a lick of the common sense you so clearly lack. Cold blooded murderers are mentally ill at the time they commit the murders. Period. The end. |
Not mutually exclusive |
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What to know about Groypers:
https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114 |
DP. Sincerely asking, how is that so. I think the question of mental illness in general is different than the standard in law of mental incompetence. Wouldn't you think someone who is convinced it is okay to murder another person in any circumstance that is not clearly self-defense could be considered sociopathic? |
I'm simply wondering why all the speculation when his father has told what was going on lately in the family. Why the need to speculate? |
But I guarantee if the shooter were a trans woman or a black or Latino person that she would not call for prayer. She would call for blood. Stop pretending these GOP politicians who called for heads to roll as recently as yesterday have any decency or consistency. |
No, neither law nor psychology considers all murderers to be mentally ill. In law, most people who commit murder are presumed legally sane and responsible for their actions unless proven otherwise. The insanity defense is rare and only applies if a person was unable to understand what they were doing or distinguish right from wrong at the time of the crime. Fewer than 1% of felony defendants successfully use the insanity defense in U.S. courts, meaning the overwhelming majority of murderers are judged legally competent and not mentally ill in a way that excuses them. In psychology, mental illness is not equated with criminality. Many murderers do not meet diagnostic criteria for a psychiatric disorder. Murders can result from anger, revenge, greed, ideology, or situational pressures. While some killers have conditions like psychosis, personality disorders, or substance-induced states, these do not explain all or even most homicides. Studies show that only a minority of homicides are committed by people with severe mental illness such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Many offenders are otherwise psychologically typical, though some may have antisocial or narcissistic traits that fall short of a formal diagnosis. The bottom line is that murderers are not automatically considered mentally ill under law or psychology. Some are, but many are legally and psychologically considered responsible, sane individuals who made a choice. |
All Ive seen is that he said his son had gotten more "political". Is there a verified account that says more than that? |
Well enough to talk about what went on at the dinner table. Again, you are speculating that perhaps, maybe, could be, the father is lying instead off saying "it's a piece of the puzzle" |
Because the father is only one witness of many potential witnesses, and two, he may be lying. |
"I’m just so confused,” Debbie said of her grandson’s arrest. “[Tyler] is the shyest person,” she said. “He has never, ever spoke politics to me at all.” |
His father said he was getting more political. I didn't see where he said he was 'leftist' or whatever. |
Then without strict gun control, we are all at risk of being murdered by a lonely, deranged, misfit lunatic, all because people like you felt it was okay to shun people from society. There is usually a common theme with these shooters other than being white males, they were not seamlessly fitting into society and rather than trying to to understand these people or even befriend them, modern day Americans shun them, force them to become outcasts, because they’re different than the norm. These people weren’t all born mentally ill, we created these people, modern day American society creates them. We’re pros at intentionally isolating people and then acting shocked when they finally implode. |
No need to try paraphrase my words or create projections--my words were clear at face value. |