FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

Wow, seems like critical pieces of information to have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

Wow, seems like critical pieces of information to have.

Yes, it seems like it should be integrated in that dashboard. It would facilitate both comparisons and planning. They say those jurisdictions have their own processes for approving development separate from the county, but the kids from the new developments still attend FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

Wow, seems like critical pieces of information to have.

+1 Especially since Herndon boundary includes more than just the Town of Herndon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again, school age population in decline, test scores and school ratings down across the board. The whole boundary study is designed to get parents fighting with one another, and it is working, to keep eyes of the horrendous job the administration and school board in managing FCPS.

Wake up people. There is no need for this study. Make Reid and the SB focus on and fix the real problems.

As has been discussed many times in this thread, the overall school age population is in decline but the school age population in certain areas is increasing and forecasted to increase significantly in the near future.

FCPS Development Projections
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/08eca5b417f94ca09dc6c384db28c764/

Anticipated additional students from housing developments currently under construction (considered in CIP):

Langley HS: 0
Falls Church HS: 31
Fairfax HS: 118
Marshall HS: 1,106
McLean HS: 1,057

Anticipated additional students from housing in pending and previously approved developments:

Langley HS: 2
Falls Church HS: 166
Fairfax HS: 431
Marshall HS: 2,599
McLean HS: 2,274

Ooh, now do Herndon. Google Fairbrook, TRG, HTOC.

Is there public information on the potential student yields (not to be confused with the number of new housing units)?

[Anonymous]

I notice that some of the new construction in Chantilly area had request for rezoning. Why would they take Westfield area and switch it to Chantilly? Or is it reversed?
Lots of the new construction in Herndon/Westfield area has requests for rezoning, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the pending and approved development with nearly 5,000 new high school students in Tysons and the surrounding areas, it is hard for me to see how Langley can continue to service Herndon much less Great Falls without a new HS, which seems implausible with the land values as they are in Tysons and McLean.

It’s not 5,000 high school students, it’s 5,000 students across elementary, middle, and high school. There are other schools besides Langley that can offer relief (Madison and Falls Church HS) so the situation is that dire.

When you say “besides” do you mean “instead of” or “in addition to”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I notice that some of the new construction in Chantilly area had request for rezoning. Why would they take Westfield area and switch it to Chantilly? Or is it reversed?
Lots of the new construction in Herndon/Westfield area has requests for rezoning, too.

Can you be more specific? There are a lot of requests for rezoning when a developer wants to change the mix of development previously approved. So if a developer think the commercial real estate market is soft, they may resubmit a plan, for example, to get approval for more residential housing and less commercial development. Did you have something else in mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

Wow, seems like critical pieces of information to have.

+1 Especially since Herndon boundary includes more than just the Town of Herndon.

If there were development plans in parts of the county outside the Town of Herndon zoned to HHS, they should be reflected in the dashboard. There may not be any.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the pending and approved development with nearly 5,000 new high school students in Tysons and the surrounding areas, it is hard for me to see how Langley can continue to service Herndon much less Great Falls without a new HS, which seems implausible with the land values as they are in Tysons and McLean.

It’s not 5,000 high school students, it’s 5,000 students across elementary, middle, and high school. There are other schools besides Langley that can offer relief (Madison and Falls Church HS) so the situation is that dire.

When you say “besides” do you mean “instead of” or “in addition to”?

In addition to. The four most logical schools to absorb Tysons developments are Marshall, McLean, Langley, and Madison, but Madison is often left out of the narrative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I notice that some of the new construction in Chantilly area had request for rezoning. Why would they take Westfield area and switch it to Chantilly? Or is it reversed?
Lots of the new construction in Herndon/Westfield area has requests for rezoning, too.

Can you be more specific? There are a lot of requests for rezoning when a developer wants to change the mix of development previously approved. So if a developer think the commercial real estate market is soft, they may resubmit a plan, for example, to get approval for more residential housing and less commercial development. Did you have something else in mind?

Thanks. I just assumed since it was on a FCPS dashboard that it meant school rezoning--like when the developers along Rte 7 got the neighborhoods zoned to Langley.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the pending and approved development with nearly 5,000 new high school students in Tysons and the surrounding areas, it is hard for me to see how Langley can continue to service Herndon much less Great Falls without a new HS, which seems implausible with the land values as they are in Tysons and McLean.

It’s not 5,000 high school students, it’s 5,000 students across elementary, middle, and high school. There are other schools besides Langley that can offer relief (Madison and Falls Church HS) so the situation is that dire.

When you say “besides” do you mean “instead of” or “in addition to”?

In addition to. The four most logical schools to absorb Tysons developments are Marshall, McLean, Langley, and Madison, but Madison is often left out of the narrative.

People tend to focus on the high schools but Kilmer MS is the biggest hot spot in that area. No idea what they’ll do about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the pending and approved development with nearly 5,000 new high school students in Tysons and the surrounding areas, it is hard for me to see how Langley can continue to service Herndon much less Great Falls without a new HS, which seems implausible with the land values as they are in Tysons and McLean.

It’s not 5,000 high school students, it’s 5,000 students across elementary, middle, and high school. There are other schools besides Langley that can offer relief (Madison and Falls Church HS) so the situation is that dire.

When you say “besides” do you mean “instead of” or “in addition to”?

In addition to. The four most logical schools to absorb Tysons developments are Marshall, McLean, Langley, and Madison, but Madison is often left out of the narrative.

People tend to focus on the high schools but Kilmer MS is the biggest hot spot in that area. No idea what they’ll do about it.

Did they lose a modular recently? Or reallocate building space? The capacity dropped from 1227 down to 1000 which is really exacerbating projections because they’re still calculating the “with/without” modulars the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who is getting "no data" on the dashboard for Herndon enrollment?

I tested lots of schools and got data.

Also, please recall, this is "potential," and some of it is not approved yet.

That dashboard doesn’t include Town of Herndon, Town of Vienna, and Fairfax City development. It’s mentioned on the site.

Wow, seems like critical pieces of information to have.

+1 Especially since Herndon boundary includes more than just the Town of Herndon.

If there were development plans in parts of the county outside the Town of Herndon zoned to HHS, they should be reflected in the dashboard. There may not be any.

Most of the significant developments are planned for the Town of Herndon.