UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t glorify Luigi, but I do empathize with him. Debilitating, chronic pain mixed with the feeling of helplessness with our healthcare system is a special kind of hell.

Separately, he is too intelligent, educated and handsome to spend his entire life in prison while POSs like OJ & Rittenhouse walked and POSs like Trump get to be president (twice!). I hope his hotshot NYC lawyer can get him a lenient sentence and he is treated for whatever physical and/or mental ailments led him to this drastic and atrocious act.

agree with your second part, don’t agree or speculate on first part. Need the facts there first, but they’re collecting and saving them for the trial.

The back pain or possible surgery or treatment has not been confirmed by a doctor or medical record. Hearts will go out to him if and when they are.

But why set your sights on the CEO? Was he going to murder his surgeon next? What about the UHC employee who actually denied the claim? The pharmacist who refused to dispense the pain pills? The nurse who didn’t check on her patient every 30 minutes?

I’m “glad” (?) he chose the CEO out of those examples but it seems like people really need someone to blame when things go wrong medically, and misplaced anger could lead to murdering people who are doing their best but are human.

We’ll have to find out during or after the trial. What his lawyer has him say about that.

Also what his lawyer has him say about surgery or not and his Japan and Thailand travels.

Worst case is he really went spiraling and on a bender then and concocted his big plan. Did he spiral due to outside bad influences or drugs? Or a psychotic meltdown? Is he stuck n that spiral still?

I don’t see any real remorse or WTF did I do. And now his lawyer won’t allow that out anyhow.

Prison won’t be nice to a guy like that. He’ll have to either go on another bender there to harden up or just capitulate into more trauma.

See, the bolded is where DCUM is so out of touch. He will be seen as a hero in prison. He already is. Have you seen the PA jail interviews with the prisoners screaming “Free Luigi!” and flashing lights, trying to message about “rats”? The prison population supports him. Probably a material number of the prisoners know someone who was hurt or died because of lack of health insurance or health insurance denials.

I’m not saying that it will be easy. It won’t be. And there are probably going to be people who would be willing to kill him for some sort of favors. But he is going into prison as a martyr who struck a blow against the system. He is going to be protected.

You’re out of touch.

Violent dimwitted New York gangs don’t care about flicking lights at media women and shouting out jokes.

Buckle up.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Who do you think is at Rikers?

A bunch of political activists? No.

A bunch of violent career criminal gangs all intermixing for prison extortion $, prison rapes, crimes, suicides, and turf.

They’ll love a rich pretty boy. Luigi will prob get a special roof and limited communal time. Too risky. He’ll be in a semi-solitary alone with his journaling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t glorify Luigi, but I do empathize with him. Debilitating, chronic pain mixed with the feeling of helplessness with our healthcare system is a special kind of hell.

Separately, he is too intelligent, educated and handsome to spend his entire life in prison while POSs like OJ & Rittenhouse walked and POSs like Trump get to be president (twice!). I hope his hotshot NYC lawyer can get him a lenient sentence and he is treated for whatever physical and/or mental ailments led him to this drastic and atrocious act.

I agree. Prison is not the right place for smart beautiful people. They deserve a free pass, if just to improve our society.

The halo effect this guy is getting is ridiculous. If some homeless guy carried this out the reaction would be different

Dp
If some 26 yo homeless guy who came from a big happy family, went to Penn engineering, and worked in Big Tech, and shot a man dead in Times Square sidewalk at 7am, it would get similar attention.

This had severe mental disorder written all over it.

Or maybe he just thinks he’s that special and great.

No it wouldn't. By then he would be dirty and rumpled and less attractive. The way he looked screeching at the reporters. But instead people are swooning for the guy he looked like a few years ago.

He looked mentally ill and high on himself screaming at the crowds. Which one will be helpful to know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop portraying Thompson as this aw shucks Midwestern husband and father? He had been living apart from his wife for years, was being investigated for insider trading, and probably had to step on at least 50 people to get his job

Not to mention all the people dead because of his policies.

You mean dead because companies buy crap plans for their employees and then blame the insurer? You mean dead because hospitals and doctors upcode and charge ridiculous prices for mere moments of clinicians time? You mean dead because doctors and surgeons continual prescribe meds and procedures that people don’t need and in some cases could kill them? There’s so many fingers in the pie my man. If hospitals and doctors acted appropriately there would be no need for the insurance companies.

Give it up, health insurance shill. Nobody buys the nonsense you are selling.

Wow the depth of your rebuttal is breathtaking. Guess that’s what you do when you have no rebuttal.

DP - what is it exactly that you think is worth rebutting? That there are other harmful elements in health care? You’re right about that. Do you think this fact is somehow a defense of UHC’s practices?

You were saying UHC killed people by denying claims and I pointed out that that is not entirely true and there are a number of bad actors involved but you want to be simple and just blame UHC when that is absolutely not the case.

Oh come on. Of course people understand there are other bad actors. You are ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

How do you think he found and hired his brand new, high powered NY attorney? And who is paying for her?

Lawyers that wealthy do it for fame.
But the family has the medical records so could have too. Who cares. He’s in prison forever and will be on drugs forever too so he doesn’t flip out on himself or others again.

I am willing to bet good money that he will not be in prison forever. He has a superstar lawyer, the general public’s support, and if he is half as nice and smart as everyone says, he will eventually get parole. If he even gets sentenced in the first place. NYC is AOC and Bernie land sprinkled with some 0.1%ers. All it takes is one sympathetic juror for jury nullification.

I just don’t see a nullification happening. He didn’t even have UHC, and never was a client. This CRO and UHC have had zero interactions with him and his healthcare. He just went after that particular CEO at random because he was a part of “the system.”

But it’s going to be very, very hard to find a jury of people who haven’t had very negative experiences with health insurance, either to them or someone in their family.

Idk. He has become wildly popular across the entire country, shockingly so. There is such an outpouring of rage and fury going on now. I do not think this will be an easy black and white case for a prosecutor.

It doesn’t matter. Most people are sane and won’t see murdering a random insurance CEO in the street as justified. After all, they didn’t feel compelled to do that- even with their own bad experiences.

The internet swooners are a loud minority. Most normal people don’t think this murder is fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The multi-layered privilege in how the public is handling this case is awful: he’s white, very good looking (or at least very photogenic), in great shape, young, smart and rich. Poor little rich, good-looking valedictorian, Ivy grad with big pecs. He also MADE his gun (a zip gun). No evidence of any relationship with UHC or that he had back surgery. No photo evidence to show his lifestyle was altered with this “horrible pain”. But yet; he’s so dreamy, look at those teeth? Look at that topless photo?

He took a zip gun and executed someone in the street, a stranger to him, in front of other people.

But he is mentally ill? He was “indoctrinated”. Poor him. Someone give him a hug.

Where was the same sympathy for the dude who drove up from NC and shot up Comet Pizza? At least it was a registered gun. But he wasn’t rich, young or good looking. He was white though.

And if Luigi is so anti-capitalist, wouldn’t he refuse the money and help his parents can buy in his new fancy lawyer (who is the wife of Diddy’s lawyer, the truth is stranger than fiction).

I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts using any gun to shot people, period.

Glad you don’t know any schizophrenic or bipolar people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The multi-layered privilege in how the public is handling this case is awful: he’s white, very good looking (or at least very photogenic), in great shape, young, smart and rich. Poor little rich, good-looking valedictorian, Ivy grad with big pecs. He also MADE his gun (a zip gun). No evidence of any relationship with UHC or that he had back surgery. No photo evidence to show his lifestyle was altered with this “horrible pain”. But yet; he’s so dreamy, look at those teeth? Look at that topless photo?

He took a zip gun and executed someone in the street, a stranger to him, in front of other people.

But he is mentally ill? He was “indoctrinated”. Poor him. Someone give him a hug.

Where was the same sympathy for the dude who drove up from NC and shot up Comet Pizza? At least it was a registered gun. But he wasn’t rich, young or good looking. He was white though.

And if Luigi is so anti-capitalist, wouldn’t he refuse the money and help his parents can buy in his new fancy lawyer (who is the wife of Diddy’s lawyer, the truth is stranger than fiction).

I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts using any gun to shot people, period.

Very well stated PP. If he were poor, uneducated, and Black, everyone would be wringing their hands that NYC has become soooo unsafe and musing about how they will have to be more careful when they visit because apparently the UMC and wealthy people in self-important positions have a target on their back. Oh, and it's Trump's fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The multi-layered privilege in how the public is handling this case is awful: he’s white, very good looking (or at least very photogenic), in great shape, young, smart and rich. Poor little rich, good-looking valedictorian, Ivy grad with big pecs. He also MADE his gun (a zip gun). No evidence of any relationship with UHC or that he had back surgery. No photo evidence to show his lifestyle was altered with this “horrible pain”. But yet; he’s so dreamy, look at those teeth? Look at that topless photo?

He took a zip gun and executed someone in the street, a stranger to him, in front of other people.

But he is mentally ill? He was “indoctrinated”. Poor him. Someone give him a hug.

Where was the same sympathy for the dude who drove up from NC and shot up Comet Pizza? At least it was a registered gun. But he wasn’t rich, young or good looking. He was white though.

And if Luigi is so anti-capitalist, wouldn’t he refuse the money and help his parents can buy in his new fancy lawyer (who is the wife of Diddy’s lawyer, the truth is stranger than fiction).

I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts using any gun to shot people, period.

Who was Nc Comet guy’s childhood, college and career leading up to his breakdown? Didn’t catch that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

How do you think he found and hired his brand new, high powered NY attorney? And who is paying for her?

Lawyers that wealthy do it for fame.
But the family has the medical records so could have too. Who cares. He’s in prison forever and will be on drugs forever too so he doesn’t flip out on himself or others again.

I am willing to bet good money that he will not be in prison forever. He has a superstar lawyer, the general public’s support, and if he is half as nice and smart as everyone says, he will eventually get parole. If he even gets sentenced in the first place. NYC is AOC and Bernie land sprinkled with some 0.1%ers. All it takes is one sympathetic juror for jury nullification.

I just don’t see a nullification happening. He didn’t even have UHC, and never was a client. This CRO and UHC have had zero interactions with him and his healthcare. He just went after that particular CEO at random because he was a part of “the system.”

But it’s going to be very, very hard to find a jury of people who haven’t had very negative experiences with health insurance, either to them or someone in their family.

Idk. He has become wildly popular across the entire country, shockingly so. There is such an outpouring of rage and fury going on now. I do not think this will be an easy black and white case for a prosecutor.

It doesn’t matter. Most people are sane and won’t see murdering a random insurance CEO in the street as justified. After all, they didn’t feel compelled to do that- even with their own bad experiences.

The internet swooners are a loud minority. Most normal people don’t think this murder is fine

Plus there's no connection between Luigi and all his problems and this particular CEO. UHC did nothing to him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t glorify Luigi, but I do empathize with him. Debilitating, chronic pain mixed with the feeling of helplessness with our healthcare system is a special kind of hell.

Separately, he is too intelligent, educated and handsome to spend his entire life in prison while POSs like OJ & Rittenhouse walked and POSs like Trump get to be president (twice!). I hope his hotshot NYC lawyer can get him a lenient sentence and he is treated for whatever physical and/or mental ailments led him to this drastic and atrocious act.

I agree. Prison is not the right place for smart beautiful people. They deserve a free pass, if just to improve our society.

The halo effect this guy is getting is ridiculous. If some homeless guy carried this out the reaction would be different

Dp
If some 26 yo homeless guy who came from a big happy family, went to Penn engineering, and worked in Big Tech, and shot a man dead in Times Square sidewalk at 7am, it would get similar attention.

This had severe mental disorder written all over it.

Or maybe he just thinks he’s that special and great.

No it wouldn't. By then he would be dirty and rumpled and less attractive. The way he looked screeching at the reporters. But instead people are swooning for the guy he looked like a few years ago.

They’re swooning over every single mug shot, taken days ago.

Yeah, he’s still attractive. As is his digital footprint.

I guess him as a homeless guy wouldn’t have as much as the former.

Attractive is attractive. Until he starts losing teeth and getting diseases.

Anybody would look rough after a long period of time living on the streets. Poor nutrition, minimal skin and hair care, and little access to medical and dental care would make a supermodel looking terrible. Looking healthy and maintained is half the battle of being attractive. Who knows what this guy was up to for the last few months, but it looks like he still had some cash to work with and might have had unstable living, but not homeless.

[Anonymous]

Anyone could snap, go silent, and blow on their life shooting someone.

Especially if living alone. Check in on your male friends folks!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t glorify Luigi, but I do empathize with him. Debilitating, chronic pain mixed with the feeling of helplessness with our healthcare system is a special kind of hell.

Separately, he is too intelligent, educated and handsome to spend his entire life in prison while POSs like OJ & Rittenhouse walked and POSs like Trump get to be president (twice!). I hope his hotshot NYC lawyer can get him a lenient sentence and he is treated for whatever physical and/or mental ailments led him to this drastic and atrocious act.

I agree. Prison is not the right place for smart beautiful people. They deserve a free pass, if just to improve our society.

The halo effect this guy is getting is ridiculous. If some homeless guy carried this out the reaction would be different

Dp
If some 26 yo homeless guy who came from a big happy family, went to Penn engineering, and worked in Big Tech, and shot a man dead in Times Square sidewalk at 7am, it would get similar attention.

This had severe mental disorder written all over it.

Or maybe he just thinks he’s that special and great.

No it wouldn't. By then he would be dirty and rumpled and less attractive. The way he looked screeching at the reporters. But instead people are swooning for the guy he looked like a few years ago.

They’re swooning over every single mug shot, taken days ago.

Yeah, he’s still attractive. As is his digital footprint.

I guess him as a homeless guy wouldn’t have as much as the former.

Attractive is attractive. Until he starts losing teeth and getting diseases.

Anybody would look rough after a long period of time living on the streets. Poor nutrition, minimal skin and hair care, and little access to medical and dental care would make a supermodel looking terrible. Looking healthy and maintained is half the battle of being attractive. Who knows what this guy was up to for the last few months, but it looks like he still had some cash to work with and might have had unstable living, but not homeless.

In a few more weeks he would have had sores, shit on his pants, dirty hands, and missing teeth. Homeless people all have their backstories, they didn't just start out that way. Luigi was well on his way to that life.

[Anonymous]

People are pissed we spend so much for health insurance and still get treated like crap. Only in the US do they suck all the money from the middle class for health care. It’s a way Americans are saying f the system f the insurance companies. Dh is usually pretty reasonable but even he said he’ll donate to support this guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The multi-layered privilege in how the public is handling this case is awful: he’s white, very good looking (or at least very photogenic), in great shape, young, smart and rich. Poor little rich, good-looking valedictorian, Ivy grad with big pecs. He also MADE his gun (a zip gun). No evidence of any relationship with UHC or that he had back surgery. No photo evidence to show his lifestyle was altered with this “horrible pain”. But yet; he’s so dreamy, look at those teeth? Look at that topless photo?

He took a zip gun and executed someone in the street, a stranger to him, in front of other people.

But he is mentally ill? He was “indoctrinated”. Poor him. Someone give him a hug.

Where was the same sympathy for the dude who drove up from NC and shot up Comet Pizza? At least it was a registered gun. But he wasn’t rich, young or good looking. He was white though.

And if Luigi is so anti-capitalist, wouldn’t he refuse the money and help his parents can buy in his new fancy lawyer (who is the wife of Diddy’s lawyer, the truth is stranger than fiction).

I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts using any gun to shot people, period.

I mean, I agree with you. He committed a horrible crime. I want him to be tried and go to prison.

But this thread is just striking to me in how incredibly far out of touch it is. We saw this with the election too. I knew Trump was going to win, as did any one who consumed media and had deep personal contacts outside of the DCUM bubble. And the same thing is going on here. DCUM is full of people adjacent to the victim here. So this thread is full of people genuinely confused about why anyone would support Luigi. However, outside of the DCUM bubble, many people are wildly supportive of Luigi, and they know all the facts you listed out and do not care.

There are votive candles being sold in flea markets with him on it as a saint — patron saint of health care denials, patron saint of the ill. “Deny, defend, depose” is showing up in graffiti, in songs, in clubs, in bars, at freaking sporting events across the country. All social media is filled with FreeLuigi hashtags. Publications have to shut down the comment sections of any article condemning the killing because so many people support it. And on and on and on.

Once again I want to be crystal clear that I 100% do not support Luigi. He need to be tried and what he did was absolutely wrong. I have zero sympathy for people who kill others. But people here do not understand how this event is being experienced outside of the 1%. He is seen as a hero martyr by many, many people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can understand people not feeling moved by the grief of the UBC CEO’s kids but I have to say surprised people aren’t feeling some empathy about Luigi’s parents, whose incredibly bright and promising son has messed up his life beyond repair in the midst of a mental decompensation.

I feel sorry for Luigi and his family, yes.

Luigi can rot but i feel sorry for his family who were probably unable to help him.

How do you think he found and hired his brand new, high powered NY attorney? And who is paying for her?

Lawyers that wealthy do it for fame.
But the family has the medical records so could have too. Who cares. He’s in prison forever and will be on drugs forever too so he doesn’t flip out on himself or others again.

I am willing to bet good money that he will not be in prison forever. He has a superstar lawyer, the general public’s support, and if he is half as nice and smart as everyone says, he will eventually get parole. If he even gets sentenced in the first place. NYC is AOC and Bernie land sprinkled with some 0.1%ers. All it takes is one sympathetic juror for jury nullification.

I just don’t see a nullification happening. He didn’t even have UHC, and never was a client. This CRO and UHC have had zero interactions with him and his healthcare. He just went after that particular CEO at random because he was a part of “the system.”

But it’s going to be very, very hard to find a jury of people who haven’t had very negative experiences with health insurance, either to them or someone in their family.

Idk. He has become wildly popular across the entire country, shockingly so. There is such an outpouring of rage and fury going on now. I do not think this will be an easy black and white case for a prosecutor.

I don’t think the sentencing terms will have to do with the Health insurance industry.

It will have to do with a normal successful young adult, flipping the switch and going insane.

Which, could happen to anybody.

Ask any trauma psych or Walter Reed doc.

This is every parent’s worst nightmare.

The son they raise, parent, and invest in launches well and then totally derails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The multi-layered privilege in how the public is handling this case is awful: he’s white, very good looking (or at least very photogenic), in great shape, young, smart and rich. Poor little rich, good-looking valedictorian, Ivy grad with big pecs. He also MADE his gun (a zip gun). No evidence of any relationship with UHC or that he had back surgery. No photo evidence to show his lifestyle was altered with this “horrible pain”. But yet; he’s so dreamy, look at those teeth? Look at that topless photo?

He took a zip gun and executed someone in the street, a stranger to him, in front of other people.

But he is mentally ill? He was “indoctrinated”. Poor him. Someone give him a hug.

Where was the same sympathy for the dude who drove up from NC and shot up Comet Pizza? At least it was a registered gun. But he wasn’t rich, young or good looking. He was white though.

And if Luigi is so anti-capitalist, wouldn’t he refuse the money and help his parents can buy in his new fancy lawyer (who is the wife of Diddy’s lawyer, the truth is stranger than fiction).

I have zero sympathy for anyone that starts using any gun to shot people, period.

I mean, I agree with you. He committed a horrible crime. I want him to be tried and go to prison.

But this thread is just striking to me in how incredibly far out of touch it is. We saw this with the election too. I knew Trump was going to win, as did any one who consumed media and had deep personal contacts outside of the DCUM bubble. And the same thing is going on here. DCUM is full of people adjacent to the victim here. So this thread is full of people genuinely confused about why anyone would support Luigi. However, outside of the DCUM bubble, many people are wildly supportive of Luigi, and they know all the facts you listed out and do not care.

There are votive candles being sold in flea markets with him on it as a saint — patron saint of health care denials, patron saint of the ill. “Deny, defend, depose” is showing up in graffiti, in songs, in clubs, in bars, at freaking sporting events across the country. All social media is filled with FreeLuigi hashtags. Publications have to shut down the comment sections of any article condemning the killing because so many people support it. And on and on and on.

Once again I want to be crystal clear that I 100% do not support Luigi. He need to be tried and what he did was absolutely wrong. I have zero sympathy for people who kill others. But people here do not understand how this event is being experienced outside of the 1%. He is seen as a hero martyr by many, many people.

It’s more of meme culture because he’s hot and on Goodreads, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Tinder, etc. Everyone scooped up his profile the first few hours it was released and it shut down.

It was also an internet meme culture that speculated that it was a HC vendetta killing when they got Thompsons name. Before shooter was found and named.

But ultimately the motive and circumstances will come out in the trial.

He was a nice, smart guy who disappeared and re-appeared a targeted shooter.