Valor

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Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

Uhh my child recognizes their own teammates… they aren’t there. And they talk to the players from the other clubs, or recognize them from playing against them on games. There is no world in which I am tracking children on Instagram.

I bet you’re a parent of a younger kid. In which case they’re never in the same grouping as mine at those things. It’s ok for some of us to have negative experiences with Valor. It doesn’t take away from your apparently amazing experience! Just hope your luck doesn’t run out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

Uhh my child recognizes their own teammates… they aren’t there. And they talk to the players from the other clubs, or recognize them from playing against them on games. There is no world in which I am tracking children on Instagram.

I bet you’re a parent of a younger kid. In which case they’re never in the same grouping as mine at those things. It’s ok for some of us to have negative experiences with Valor. It doesn’t take away from your apparently amazing experience! Just hope your luck doesn’t run out.

Soooo because your kid doesn’t see their teammates, no other kids from valor are there or go another day when your superstar isn’t there? Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

Uhh my child recognizes their own teammates… they aren’t there. And they talk to the players from the other clubs, or recognize them from playing against them on games. There is no world in which I am tracking children on Instagram.

I bet you’re a parent of a younger kid. In which case they’re never in the same grouping as mine at those things. It’s ok for some of us to have negative experiences with Valor. It doesn’t take away from your apparently amazing experience! Just hope your luck doesn’t run out.

Soooo because your kid doesn’t see their teammates, no other kids from valor are there or go another day when your superstar isn’t there? Got it.

Point to where I said no Valor kids ever go to outside trainings. I answered specifically about my child's team. Also, let's use some logic. There are only so many days in the week, several of which have practices and/or games. Do you really think we never would have run into a single teammate at one of the outside things if a significant number of them were regularly attending such things? It has happened exactly once. Your critical thinking skills don't seem too strong. I guess that's why you love Valor!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

Uhh my child recognizes their own teammates… they aren’t there. And they talk to the players from the other clubs, or recognize them from playing against them on games. There is no world in which I am tracking children on Instagram.

I bet you’re a parent of a younger kid. In which case they’re never in the same grouping as mine at those things. It’s ok for some of us to have negative experiences with Valor. It doesn’t take away from your apparently amazing experience! Just hope your luck doesn’t run out.

Soooo because your kid doesn’t see their teammates, no other kids from valor are there or go another day when your superstar isn’t there? Got it.

Point to where I said no Valor kids ever go to outside trainings. I answered specifically about my child's team. Also, let's use some logic. There are only so many days in the week, several of which have practices and/or games. Do you really think we never would have run into a single teammate at one of the outside things if a significant number of them were regularly attending such things? It has happened exactly once. Your critical thinking skills don't seem too strong. I guess that's why you love Valor!

I guess your silver team needs to work harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:Question: how many individual kids practice at home or regularly attend the different training programs like False8, HP Elite, etc?
I’m reading about how teams aren’t as good or competitive or that Valor’s program isn’t competitive, but I do need to say, having been at other clubs, that most teams that are “competitive” have players that regularly do just that. They are spending time and money outside of team practices to work on improving individual skills. Teams don’t magically improve just because of the coach.
Sure, a good coach helps, but the main thing is that parents need to understand that better teams are made up of better kids. Better kids do outside team training. My older child is in an MLSnext team and I can promise you that nearly every child does outside training.
If that’s not something your kid or you are interested in, that’s totally fine. But it’s unrealistic to expect to have this awesome, competitive team without that extra effort.

Hardly any on my child’s top team. They regularly see kids from top and second teams at Loudoun, McLean, Arlington, and sometimes a couple Valor players from older age groups. It’s baffling because there are multiple outside training places very close to Valor territory yet they never see teammates there. Valor hasn’t been great about giving feedback, and a lot of parents never played soccer, so I don’t think a lot of parents realize their kids really need the technical work and that kids on opposing teams are all doing these trainings.

How could you possibly know this? Kids aren’t wearing Valor gear to these activities. Unless you know the players or track children on instagram, you wouldn’t know what clubs kids are from. Some might have club backpacks, but not all. We often see Valor kids at these activities.

Uhh my child recognizes their own teammates… they aren’t there. And they talk to the players from the other clubs, or recognize them from playing against them on games. There is no world in which I am tracking children on Instagram.

I bet you’re a parent of a younger kid. In which case they’re never in the same grouping as mine at those things. It’s ok for some of us to have negative experiences with Valor. It doesn’t take away from your apparently amazing experience! Just hope your luck doesn’t run out.

Soooo because your kid doesn’t see their teammates, no other kids from valor are there or go another day when your superstar isn’t there? Got it.

Point to where I said no Valor kids ever go to outside trainings. I answered specifically about my child's team. Also, let's use some logic. There are only so many days in the week, several of which have practices and/or games. Do you really think we never would have run into a single teammate at one of the outside things if a significant number of them were regularly attending such things? It has happened exactly once. Your critical thinking skills don't seem too strong. I guess that's why you love Valor!

I guess your silver team needs to work harder.

I know you thought that was a sick burn, but all it did was show that you can’t read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weighing offers and looking at pre-ecnl schedules from this year--why was the valor boys pre-ecnl team for 2014 so bad? Did the whole team leave the year before? Is there a reason?

They are 25th out of 25 and lost many games by scores like 7-0. It looks like they are keeping the same coach.

What are your other options? A lot of negative comments about that coach on here.

if you search him there's actually a lot of positives about him.

[Anonymous]

Did a search for his last name on here and also his previous first name (what adult changes their name?) and the comments that sounded like from real parents were not great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did a search for his last name on here and also his previous first name (what adult changes their name?) and the comments that sounded like from real parents were not great.

Didn’t find anything bad. Who cares if someone changes their name, why is it your business? Go to a practice and ask actual parents on his team what they think.

[Anonymous]

Don't need to as they have posted their complaints here already. Anyone can search and draw their own conclusions about what comments sound like Valor Marketing and what comments sound like actual parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weighing offers and looking at pre-ecnl schedules from this year--why was the valor boys pre-ecnl team for 2014 so bad? Did the whole team leave the year before? Is there a reason?

They are 25th out of 25 and lost many games by scores like 7-0. It looks like they are keeping the same coach.

2014 age group is generally bad everywhere. I think it's due to last year by covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the 2014/15 girls going to be competitive next year? It's still pre ECNL teams but the younger girls program is kind of a mess right now

Both teams lost a more than typical number. Valor doesn’t draw top talent from elsewhere so second and third team players backfilling while increasing roster size because not enough girls to fill three teams. Brings opportunities for girls to move up but. Not necessarily merit based. Level of play could drop.

both teams only lost couple girl.... not more than typical number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was that the coach that quit GFR and the GFR parents said he was pay to play with private lessons, or am I thinking of someone else?

For Valor to be so large as to have five teams in 2014 boys but their top 2014 team is hopeless and 25th out of 25...iit makes you wonder if something happened in that age group to make all the good players leave or if its a coach issue. And how terrible are those 4th-5th teams!? Yikes

different coach. is at Bethesda now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was that the coach that quit GFR and the GFR parents said he was pay to play with private lessons, or am I thinking of someone else?

For Valor to be so large as to have five teams in 2014 boys but their top 2014 team is hopeless and 25th out of 25...iit makes you wonder if something happened in that age group to make all the good players leave or if its a coach issue. And how terrible are those 4th-5th teams!? Yikes

different coach. is at Bethesda now.

It was SA who now goes by IA. He was at GFR for maybe 1-2 years. Did private$ on the $ide.
(-GFR parent)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weighing offers and looking at pre-ecnl schedules from this year--why was the valor boys pre-ecnl team for 2014 so bad? Did the whole team leave the year before? Is there a reason?

They are 25th out of 25 and lost many games by scores like 7-0. It looks like they are keeping the same coach.

2014 age group is generally bad everywhere. I think it's due to last year by covid.

What does Covid have to do with anything for 2014s? These kids would have been 6-7, way too young for travel soccer.