CTCL schools

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is less selective than top NESCACs and more selective than most or all CTCLs. Several in my very selective law school went to Oberlin (more than CTCLs like Whitman, Lawrence, Kalamazoo, Millsaps, etc.) I myself did not go to Oberlin.

Name the law school so we can see for ourselves how many went to CTCL schools undergrad. You can do that easily without outing yourself, and it will give you the credibility that right now you are lacking.

I'm not the PP, but attended a school listed here and classmates attended Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, and Michigan Law. Then a number, including me, who attended Ivies for grad school.

Here’s the thing: that happens with virtually every college in the top several hundred. It doesn’t make the school special.

By the way, Georgetown isn’t all that. And I’ll bet you don’t have too many at Yale Law.

Nah, not too many apply to Yale as not many want to live in New Haven. US News has Georgetown @ 15 - not as high as Yale but great if you are interested in politics/government. From what I can tell, my classmates are pretty happy and not sweating the small stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You really need to pay a professional who can help you figure out why you can’t give your crusade a rest.

There are more than one of us. How many are you?

well then maybe you all can get a group therapy rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is less selective than top NESCACs and more selective than most or all CTCLs. Several in my very selective law school went to Oberlin (more than CTCLs like Whitman, Lawrence, Kalamazoo, Millsaps, etc.) I myself did not go to Oberlin.

Name the law school so we can see for ourselves how many went to CTCL schools undergrad. You can do that easily without outing yourself, and it will give you the credibility that right now you are lacking.

I'm not the PP, but attended a school listed here and classmates attended Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, and Michigan Law. Then a number, including me, who attended Ivies for grad school.

Here’s the thing: that happens with virtually every college in the top several hundred. It doesn’t make the school special.

By the way, Georgetown isn’t all that. And I’ll bet you don’t have too many at Yale Law.

Nah, not too many apply to Yale as not many want to live in New Haven. US News has Georgetown @ 15 - not as high as Yale but great if you are interested in politics/government. From what I can tell, my classmates are pretty happy and not sweating the small stuff.

You've just confirmed you know nothing about law schools. And if your classmates aren't applying to Yale because they don't want to live in New Haven, then they know nothing about law schools either. Last year only 6.9 percent of Yale Law applicants were accepted, and 84 percent of accepted applicants enrolled.
If your classmates went to a real college instead of a CTCL school, they'd know that -- Yale Law is truly in a league of its own.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not kidding, there are at least three people on this page alone that think the CTCL name/shenanigan is weird. It's not one person. Far from it.

Why do you care so much? I mean someone wrote a book and then the schools formed a non profit and website. But if these schools don’t matter than why do you care that they did that?

I'm not that poster. I'm another poster who thinks the whole CTCL thing is weird. And I'll tell you why: because that's my opinion. So now I'll ask you: what do you feel so compelled to talk up CTCL schools? So you can feel that your kid is getting a "special" college education when they're actually just getting a second tier one?

I don’t talk them up. I don’t really care about the schools. My DC is mainly looking at higher ranked SLACs but is also considering safeties. But the thing is I don’t really care one way or the other about CTCL moniker. It doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not kidding, there are at least three people on this page alone that think the CTCL name/shenanigan is weird. It's not one person. Far from it.

Why do you care so much? I mean someone wrote a book and then the schools formed a non profit and website. But if these schools don’t matter than why do you care that they did that?

I'm not that poster. I'm another poster who thinks the whole CTCL thing is weird. And I'll tell you why: because that's my opinion. So now I'll ask you: what do you feel so compelled to talk up CTCL schools? So you can feel that your kid is getting a "special" college education when they're actually just getting a second tier one?

I really just don't get the hate. People don't necessarily think their kid is getting something "special." They are simply looking for a range of possible fits for their kids, especially in what has felt like a less predictable time in college admissions.

You know what - I have twins. One will probably get into a top school for sundry reasons. The other might not even get into the target schools on list. That said, both are great kids - truly kind, funny, and just blessed to have them. We are not sweating the tiers - just hoping that they find fits where they are happy, learn, stretch, and perhaps become the kind of DCUM posters with the confidence to hope for the best for all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not kidding, there are at least three people on this page alone that think the CTCL name/shenanigan is weird. It's not one person. Far from it.

Why do you care so much? I mean someone wrote a book and then the schools formed a non profit and website. But if these schools don’t matter than why do you care that they did that?

I'm not that poster. I'm another poster who thinks the whole CTCL thing is weird. And I'll tell you why: because that's my opinion. So now I'll ask you: what do you feel so compelled to talk up CTCL schools? So you can feel that your kid is getting a "special" college education when they're actually just getting a second tier one?

I'll talk. I think private CTCL schools are better than the state schools that they rank near in entering stats in many ways. And they end up being cheaper than state schools for most people anyway.

Its ''special'' for people because those schools are known for taking students who didn't do great in high school and shaping them up. Their state school counterparts do terrible at that in comparison.

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So for the hell of it I looked at Yale's website, and in the last 5 years the law school the law school admitted somebody from only 5 of the 44 CTCL schools. The other 39 struck out completely. I'd also venture a guess that the 5 who did get somebody in probably only got one in -- except maybe Reed, which is really too good of a school to belong to CTCL and really is slumming it by associating with the others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not kidding, there are at least three people on this page alone that think the CTCL name/shenanigan is weird. It's not one person. Far from it.

Why do you care so much? I mean someone wrote a book and then the schools formed a non profit and website. But if these schools don’t matter than why do you care that they did that?

I'm not that poster. I'm another poster who thinks the whole CTCL thing is weird. And I'll tell you why: because that's my opinion. So now I'll ask you: what do you feel so compelled to talk up CTCL schools? So you can feel that your kid is getting a "special" college education when they're actually just getting a second tier one?

I really just don't get the hate. People don't necessarily think their kid is getting something "special." They are simply looking for a range of possible fits for their kids, especially in what has felt like a less predictable time in college admissions.

You know what - I have twins. One will probably get into a top school for sundry reasons. The other might not even get into the target schools on list. That said, both are great kids - truly kind, funny, and just blessed to have them. We are not sweating the tiers - just hoping that they find fits where they are happy, learn, stretch, and perhaps become the kind of DCUM posters with the confidence to hope for the best for all.

Spare me the "f" word. We've been over this already -- that's just part of the marketing gimmick.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You really need to pay a professional who can help you figure out why you can’t give your crusade a rest.

There are more than one of us. How many are you?

I hate to reply to this thread because I want it to die, but there is one, maybe two CTCL hating tolls and as much as you might try to convince us otherwise, we can tell. Because it’s literally impossible that there would be two weirdos who would keep this hellscape of a thread going with the constant reupping and obvious anti-CTLC comments and anti-CTCL sockpuppeting on other threads.

I went to a CTCL (I would never say that IRL, so don’t proffer your snarky reply about how it’s dumb to use the phrase; I just don’t want to out myself) and now I teach your precious offspring at a top 10 R1. A friend who went to college with me teaches at UVA.

So, you might not send your kids to a CTCL school, but I promise you that your kids are being taught by grads of the schools you spurned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So for the hell of it I looked at Yale's website, and in the last 5 years the law school the law school admitted somebody from only 5 of the 44 CTCL schools. The other 39 struck out completely. I'd also venture a guess that the 5 who did get somebody in probably only got one in -- except maybe Reed, which is really too good of a school to belong to CTCL and really is slumming it by associating with the others.

Omg I get it: the anti-CTCL troll is Brett Kavanaugh! It all fits — belligerence, obsession, worship of Yale Law and prestige.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not kidding, there are at least three people on this page alone that think the CTCL name/shenanigan is weird. It's not one person. Far from it.

Why do you care so much? I mean someone wrote a book and then the schools formed a non profit and website. But if these schools don’t matter than why do you care that they did that?

I'm not that poster. I'm another poster who thinks the whole CTCL thing is weird. And I'll tell you why: because that's my opinion. So now I'll ask you: what do you feel so compelled to talk up CTCL schools? So you can feel that your kid is getting a "special" college education when they're actually just getting a second tier one?

I really just don't get the hate. People don't necessarily think their kid is getting something "special." They are simply looking for a range of possible fits for their kids, especially in what has felt like a less predictable time in college admissions.

You know what - I have twins. One will probably get into a top school for sundry reasons. The other might not even get into the target schools on list. That said, both are great kids - truly kind, funny, and just blessed to have them. We are not sweating the tiers - just hoping that they find fits where they are happy, learn, stretch, and perhaps become the kind of DCUM posters with the confidence to hope for the best for all.

Spare me the "f" word. We've been over this already -- that's just part of the marketing gimmick.

But this ''fit'' thing is real. A CTCL school or similar may be a better fit because the student wants rural, small, to play a sport (the horror!), a school they can get into based on test scores and grades, and good ratios.

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Anonymous wrote:So for the hell of it I looked at Yale's website, and in the last 5 years the law school the law school admitted somebody from only 5 of the 44 CTCL schools. The other 39 struck out completely. I'd also venture a guess that the 5 who did get somebody in probably only got one in -- except maybe Reed, which is really too good of a school to belong to CTCL and really is slumming it by associating with the others.

Admitted or enrolled?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is less selective than top NESCACs and more selective than most or all CTCLs. Several in my very selective law school went to Oberlin (more than CTCLs like Whitman, Lawrence, Kalamazoo, Millsaps, etc.) I myself did not go to Oberlin.

Name the law school so we can see for ourselves how many went to CTCL schools undergrad. You can do that easily without outing yourself, and it will give you the credibility that right now you are lacking.

I'm not the PP, but attended a school listed here and classmates attended Chicago, Georgetown, Harvard, and Michigan Law. Then a number, including me, who attended Ivies for grad school.

Here’s the thing: that happens with virtually every college in the top several hundred. It doesn’t make the school special.

By the way, Georgetown isn’t all that. And I’ll bet you don’t have too many at Yale Law.

Nah, not too many apply to Yale as not many want to live in New Haven. US News has Georgetown @ 15 - not as high as Yale but great if you are interested in politics/government. From what I can tell, my classmates are pretty happy and not sweating the small stuff.

You've just confirmed you know nothing about law schools. And if your classmates aren't applying to Yale because they don't want to live in New Haven, then they know nothing about law schools either. Last year only 6.9 percent of Yale Law applicants were accepted, and 84 percent of accepted applicants enrolled.
If your classmates went to a real college instead of a CTCL school, they'd know that -- Yale Law is truly in a league of its own.

Simply because my classmates didn't apply to Yale means I know nothing - LOL, right. I know plenty of people who went to Yale Law - just not from my college. With the exception of wanting to go into politics, most of my college classmates wanted to live in the Midwest. They picked schools which they thought would help them the most to do that - some went to "second tier" schools and others have greater name recognition, alumni networks, etc. (I forgot to include Northwestern - another popular one). Back 35 years ago, Harvard was the top dog, so some went there, but almost always came back to work in Midwest. Yale was just not on the radar in the same way.

And again, what does this really matter? What is so stuck in your craw that you need to roll off Yale stats for the last yield as if I and my classmates graduated yesterday? Someone had an experience that is not yours so you are certain that it doesn't exist.

Finally, IDK anyone IRL who says they graduated from a CTCL - they just ID their college. You didn't make that false claim in your comments, but a few CTCL haters have, so just reminding readers that's not a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone attended a CTCL fair? I just got a mailing that they are doing a nationwide tour in August.

I recommend them highly. My DC and I went early on (maybe junior year). It really impacted the direction of our search. NOT because they were pushing their own schools, but because they advocate an approach/philosophy that is very healthy.

They explain "fit" and why it matters. They recommend against kids competing with their friends in the search process. They give tips on how to minimize parent-child tension along the way. I really do recommend that you attend, and try to get your child to sit in as well. It set a great tone for our search, and my DC was very successful.

They're basically trying to sooth your ego over the fact that an elite college isn’t in the cards for your kid and are hoping that in the end the subtle sales pitch has you applying to one or more of their overpriced schools.

Depends on what you mean by overpriced. They’re no more expensive than state schools for most kids.

There were a couple of CTCLs on DC's list that would have likely been cheaper than going to UVA/W&M for us.

Ha ha maybe but none of them even approaches the same league as these schools so you get what you pay for. Nobody is turning down UVA for a silly CTCL school.

My DC did in fact turn down UVA for a CTCL school.

Frankly, I don't believe you. Name the school.

I am not going to do that as it could identify him.

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Anonymous wrote:So for the hell of it I looked at Yale's website, and in the last 5 years the law school the law school admitted somebody from only 5 of the 44 CTCL schools. The other 39 struck out completely. I'd also venture a guess that the 5 who did get somebody in probably only got one in -- except maybe Reed, which is really too good of a school to belong to CTCL and really is slumming it by associating with the others.

Admitted or enrolled?

C'mon now, pay attention to the thread. Nearly everybody admitted to Yale Law enrolls, CTCL grads are not turning down Yale Law in droves, trust me.