Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, as a person who has been thin my whole life, I think the desirability of thinness is declining. I’ve never worked to be thin, it’s just how my body is. I used to get a lot of compliments on my body back in the 90s and early 00s. Unearned, but I viewed it like getting a compliment on your natural hair color or good bone structure.

But I noticed about 10-15 years ago people were less likely to compliment than to say something backhanded (“ugh, you’re so skinny, I hate you”). And then that turned into concern trolling, people suggesting that being thin was embarrassing, evidence of an eating disorder, or unsexy/unattractive.

I know it’s still considered ideal by a lot of UMC white women, but I think many others have rejected it as an unattainable or unhealthy goal. I definitely don’t feel superior to others. I don’t even feel like clothes look better on my body, even though I used to feel most fashions were sort of meant for my body shape.

Anyway, I can see why people resent thinness but I actually feel it’s in its way out.

Thin will always be in. You get less complements now because you are 20+ yrs older…

It is just harder to be thin now because of the bombardment of convenience foods, door dash, delivery, etc.

I'm not so sure about that because an awful lot of people are convinced curves and big butts are where it's at.

Only trashy Kardashian lovers, not regular UMC folks.

I’m not Black or Latina, but I’m pretty sure you’re bigoted. Yes, it’s bigoted to ignore two entire huge groups of people as being unable to be “regular UMC folks” and lump them in as trash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read most of this bizarre thread, but can someone explain to me exactly how much “privilege” is required to just not eat so much? Fundamentally that’s all that is required to be thin.

That’s all that’s required to stay thin, which is different from getting thin. FYI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

Environmental circumstances impact humans. That’s a fact. It may involve you, but it’s not “no one” but you. Your personal will is not normally stronger than the entire culture around you. We aren’t built that way. A person working a double shift and then reaching for cheap, tasty and abundantly available energy is not “lazy”. It’s predictable behavior for a reason. They know where to put the chips and candy in the store for a reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read most of this bizarre thread, but can someone explain to me exactly how much “privilege” is required to just not eat so much? Fundamentally that’s all that is required to be thin.

That’s all that’s required to stay thin, which is different from getting thin. FYI.

Actually it’s required for both. To become thin and to stay thin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read most of this bizarre thread, but can someone explain to me exactly how much “privilege” is required to just not eat so much? Fundamentally that’s all that is required to be thin.

That’s all that’s required to stay thin, which is different from getting thin. FYI.

Actually it’s required for both. To become thin and to stay thin.

Agree. But of course it is harder to obtain and maintain heathy habits when you have been eating poorly and not active for decades already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read most of this bizarre thread, but can someone explain to me exactly how much “privilege” is required to just not eat so much? Fundamentally that’s all that is required to be thin.

That’s all that’s required to stay thin, which is different from getting thin. FYI.

Actually it’s required for both. To become thin and to stay thin.

Agree. But of course it is harder to obtain and maintain heathy habits when you have been eating poorly and not active for decades already.

True but we’ve all seen literally thousands of accounts of people taking a hard look at themselves and making big changes after a lifetime of bad habits. Hard yes, but always possible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

Environmental circumstances impact humans. That’s a fact. It may involve you, but it’s not “no one” but you. Your personal will is not normally stronger than the entire culture around you. We aren’t built that way. A person working a double shift and then reaching for cheap, tasty and abundantly available energy is not “lazy”. It’s predictable behavior for a reason. They know where to put the chips and candy in the store for a reason.

Yes. They do that because a lot of people are lazy. Sorry but it is the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

Environmental circumstances impact humans. That’s a fact. It may involve you, but it’s not “no one” but you. Your personal will is not normally stronger than the entire culture around you. We aren’t built that way. A person working a double shift and then reaching for cheap, tasty and abundantly available energy is not “lazy”. It’s predictable behavior for a reason. They know where to put the chips and candy in the store for a reason.

Yes. They do that because a lot of people are lazy. Sorry but it is the truth.

Because most of us are not working double shifts or struggling with trauma. Of course it will be beyond challenging for those people. For the rest of us it does take hard work and sacrificing some pleasure. I wish I could eat whatever I want whenever I want, but that’s not realistic for good health. A happy medium works for me—I’m okay with being average weight rather than thin. And I loathe exercise but force myself to walk at least an hour per day, take stairs etc. because I want to be healthy. I think I’m basically in the middle where most people could be with a moderate amount of commitment and effort.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read most of this bizarre thread, but can someone explain to me exactly how much “privilege” is required to just not eat so much? Fundamentally that’s all that is required to be thin.

That’s all that’s required to stay thin, which is different from getting thin. FYI.

Actually it’s required for both. To become thin and to stay thin.

Agree. But of course it is harder to obtain and maintain heathy habits when you have been eating poorly and not active for decades already.

True but we’ve all seen literally thousands of accounts of people taking a hard look at themselves and making big changes after a lifetime of bad habits. Hard yes, but always possible.

Agree it is entirely possible, but hard and quite frankly most people don’t do “hard” things very well. Default to easy is what happens. And then comes all the reasons why it isn’t in their control that they can’t lose weight

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s about morality but is about discipline at a certain point. I say this as a person who has often lacked the discipline to make healthy dietary choices and make time for adequate exercise. I know when I reach for the junk and relax on the couch instead of going for a walk that I’m making lazy choices. I always had excuses— work, kids, commute, difficulty managing stress, a variety of health issues—but it really did come down to lack of discipline. Trying to turn over a new leaf, but it is challenging after a decade of increasingly bad habits. That’s on no one but me.

Environmental circumstances impact humans. That’s a fact. It may involve you, but it’s not “no one” but you. Your personal will is not normally stronger than the entire culture around you. We aren’t built that way. A person working a double shift and then reaching for cheap, tasty and abundantly available energy is not “lazy”. It’s predictable behavior for a reason. They know where to put the chips and candy in the store for a reason.

Yes. They do that because a lot of people are lazy. Sorry but it is the truth.

Because most of us are not working double shifts or struggling with trauma. Of course it will be beyond challenging for those people. For the rest of us it does take hard work and sacrificing some pleasure. I wish I could eat whatever I want whenever I want, but that’s not realistic for good health. A happy medium works for me—I’m okay with being average weight rather than thin. And I loathe exercise but force myself to walk at least an hour per day, take stairs etc. because I want to be healthy. I think I’m basically in the middle where most people could be with a moderate amount of commitment and effort.

I worked double shifts for years. I’d come home and eat a yogurt and apple, peanut butter sandwich, a bowl of oatmeal, scrambled eggs. It isn’t any harder. It really isn’t. People just like junk food and would rather not do any food preparation what do ever.

[Anonymous]

Just like white skin used to be a symbol of wealth and leisure, being thin is now an unmistakable signal of wealth. Having the time to exercise, the resources to get help from a dietician and a personal trainer, are not something everyone can do.

Every other signal of wealth can now much more easily be faked. You can take on a huge mortgage or a car payment you can’t afford or buy a bunch of luxury goods on credit. But to have good skin, good teeth, and be thin? That takes real $$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just like white skin used to be a symbol of wealth and leisure, being thin is now an unmistakable signal of wealth. Having the time to exercise, the resources to get help from a dietician and a personal trainer, are not something everyone can do.

Every other signal of wealth can now much more easily be faked. You can take on a huge mortgage or a car payment you can’t afford or buy a bunch of luxury goods on credit. But to have good skin, good teeth, and be thin? That takes real $$$

You can be thin and not need a dietician or personal trainer. It's really not that hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just like white skin used to be a symbol of wealth and leisure, being thin is now an unmistakable signal of wealth. Having the time to exercise, the resources to get help from a dietician and a personal trainer, are not something everyone can do.

Every other signal of wealth can now much more easily be faked. You can take on a huge mortgage or a car payment you can’t afford or buy a bunch of luxury goods on credit. But to have good skin, good teeth, and be thin? That takes real $$$

I’m wealthy and thin as are most of my friends. No one has a dietician or personal trainer. Many of us work also. You just have to have the discipline to wake up at 4:30 to work out and be able to say no to indulging in junk food or over eating in general. The food I eat most frequently is very basic and inexpensive. Oatmeal, eggs, apples, lentils, beans, yogurt, seasonal produce. Sure if you live in the Whole Foods salad bar is it expensive. But eating reasonably heathy doesn’t need to be costly or ultra time consuming

[Anonymous]

Now, being thin is a symbol of wealth too, and of course, just like in Victorian England, it is the fault of the poor that they are poor, but now heap on them that it is their fault they are overweight too! Not only are they lazy, but they are also gluttons too!
"I am wealthy and thin due to my hard work! The overweight are poor and overweight, due to their lack of hard work!"
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to dcum, where thin, rich women don't need a nutritionist or a trainer to stay thin. Not healthy really, they don't care about that as much as they claim. If they were that healthy, they would not be waking up at 4:30 am to achieve a model scary skinny look! Cause if they are that educated, surely they read studies about sleep being essential to a healthy body and mind!
If they could be skinny eating potatoes chips all day long, they would!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now, being thin is a symbol of wealth too, and of course, just like in Victorian England, it is the fault of the poor that they are poor, but now heap on them that it is their fault they are overweight too! Not only are they lazy, but they are also gluttons too!
"I am wealthy and thin due to my hard work! The overweight are poor and overweight, due to their lack of hard work!"
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to dcum, where thin, rich women don't need a nutritionist or a trainer to stay thin. Not healthy really, they don't care about that as much as they claim. If they were that healthy, they would not be waking up at 4:30 am to achieve a model scary skinny look! Cause if they are that educated, surely they read studies about sleep being essential to a healthy body and mind!
If they could be skinny eating potatoes chips all day long, they would!

No we wake up at 4:30 because that is the only time available between kids and work and we make it a priority for our health. It isnt all about weight.