Pay-to-Play Sport at Private HS employing club coach - what's normal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Johnny just wasn’t good enough to play for the CHAMPS? Methinks that’s the key detail that was conveniently omitted. Somewhere along the way, it became abundantly clear to everybody except Johnny and his parents that Johnny couldn’t hang with a bunch of killers, so then the aggrieved party starts lashing out at the program/coach. Seen this story before.

Coach Gibbs has so many championship rings he struggles to turn door handles. Getting a look from him in the first place is no small feat. You should feel proud. You made it to base camp, but only the elite ascend to the peak.

Peak? As anyone who’s been around SJC baseball knows, SJC players tend to peak in high school. And Gibbs is living his life like a kid who’s peaking in high school, except he should be acting like a grown adult. Some coaches take pride in preparing their players for the next level and life in general. Some do it for the rings and the self adulation. Ah, but those rings.......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Johnny just wasn’t good enough to play for the CHAMPS? Methinks that’s the key detail that was conveniently omitted. Somewhere along the way, it became abundantly clear to everybody except Johnny and his parents that Johnny couldn’t hang with a bunch of killers, so then the aggrieved party starts lashing out at the program/coach. Seen this story before.

Coach Gibbs has so many championship rings he struggles to turn door handles. Getting a look from him in the first place is no small feat. You should feel proud. You made it to base camp, but only the elite ascend to the peak.

oh my god, the coach found the thread!

Read more carefully coach, Johnny did play for 4 years. Hang w. a bunch of killers... you're not really talking about baseball are you? Where 99% of the time everyone is sitting down or standing still.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Johnny just wasn’t good enough to play for the CHAMPS? Methinks that’s the key detail that was conveniently omitted. Somewhere along the way, it became abundantly clear to everybody except Johnny and his parents that Johnny couldn’t hang with a bunch of killers, so then the aggrieved party starts lashing out at the program/coach. Seen this story before.

Coach Gibbs has so many championship rings he struggles to turn door handles. Getting a look from him in the first place is no small feat. You should feel proud. You made it to base camp, but only the elite ascend to the peak.

It's hard to tell if this post is Coach Gibbs, or his father (also SJC Coach Gibbs), or his brother (also SJC Coach Gibbs). There's about a 1% chance that it's someone else. Whoever it is, congratulations on those rings! That is so cool! You guys are a bunch of stone cold killers! You should be so proud!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Johnny just wasn’t good enough to play for the CHAMPS? Methinks that’s the key detail that was conveniently omitted. Somewhere along the way, it became abundantly clear to everybody except Johnny and his parents that Johnny couldn’t hang with a bunch of killers, so then the aggrieved party starts lashing out at the program/coach. Seen this story before.

Coach Gibbs has so many championship rings he struggles to turn door handles. Getting a look from him in the first place is no small feat. You should feel proud. You made it to base camp, but only the elite ascend to the peak.

This is how SJC baseball has continued to get away with this year after year. Blaming the kids/parents if they leave or speak out. If Johnny wasn't good enough (and I'm not saying that's true), why hold him hostage year round? Let him play for another team in the summer and maybe with the perspective and encouragement of a different coach he would have had an opportunity to excel or, at a minimum, a chance to play in the field and continue to enjoy the game. That's the problem with the SJC hoax, only one person's opinion counts for your kids entire high school career AND college prospects. They are making money (or in the most benign interpretation but still pretty awful, keeping the boys together to prepare for the WCAC season) instead of supporting the kids in finding the best situation to showcase their talents in the summer season when college coaches can see them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe Johnny just wasn’t good enough to play for the CHAMPS? Methinks that’s the key detail that was conveniently omitted. Somewhere along the way, it became abundantly clear to everybody except Johnny and his parents that Johnny couldn’t hang with a bunch of killers, so then the aggrieved party starts lashing out at the program/coach. Seen this story before.

Coach Gibbs has so many championship rings he struggles to turn door handles. Getting a look from him in the first place is no small feat. You should feel proud. You made it to base camp, but only the elite ascend to the peak.

It's hard to tell if this post is Coach Gibbs, or his father (also SJC Coach Gibbs), or his brother (also SJC Coach Gibbs). There's about a 1% chance that it's someone else. Whoever it is, congratulations on those rings! That is so cool! You guys are a bunch of stone cold killers! You should be so proud!

If you live in Olney, this post is hilarious. We have years of visuals of these guys strutting around town. Alright, back to my popcorn. Enjoying the show.

[Anonymous]

You play. To win. The game.

Elite high school sports demand both time and money. Film at 11. Johnny isn’t the first to burn out traveling on the path of a champion and he won’t be the last. Iron sharpens iron. You can find orange slices and participation trophies at plenty of programs.

If you want a sense of entitlement and privilege to later create Car Wash Coffee, go to Gonzaga. If you want to know hard work is rewarded on your way to building a global sports apparel brand, go to SJC.

And, yes, I am the 1%. I peaked in high school and haven’t stopped peaking since.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You play. To win. The game.

Elite high school sports demand both time and money. Film at 11. Johnny isn’t the first to burn out traveling on the path of a champion and he won’t be the last. Iron sharpens iron. You can find orange slices and participation trophies at plenty of programs.

If you want a sense of entitlement and privilege to later create Car Wash Coffee, go to Gonzaga. If you want to know hard work is rewarded on your way to building a global sports apparel brand, go to SJC.

And, yes, I am the 1%. I peaked in high school and haven’t stopped peaking since.

1 alumni of actual note in the entire SJC universe

[Anonymous]

The worst was the Madlax owner who was fired by Potomac School after emailing kids saying they wouldn't play in HS unless they played for Madlax.

[Anonymous]

There is just so much misinformation on this thread. The idea that Mark Gibbs (who works in like alumni development at a catholic school) is somehow living high on the hog is laughable. Yes- he charges reasonable fees for entire winter and summer programs. And no, i doubt they are all “pure profit”. Its probably not much different than any SJC or really any WCAC coach makes to help supplement their catholic school salary. I mean cmon.

This is not Joe Wooten in some million dollar house tooling around in a BMW. The Gibbs family are SJC legends. I played for Ed in the late 90s (and quit to play tennis instead for more playing time). But you know what? No sour grapes. They are good people. They are the exact opposite of grifters.

This whole stoey is a bit of a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You play. To win. The game.

Elite high school sports demand both time and money. Film at 11. Johnny isn’t the first to burn out traveling on the path of a champion and he won’t be the last. Iron sharpens iron. You can find orange slices and participation trophies at plenty of programs.

If you want a sense of entitlement and privilege to later create Car Wash Coffee, go to Gonzaga. If you want to know hard work is rewarded on your way to building a global sports apparel brand, go to SJC.

And, yes, I am the 1%. I peaked in high school and haven’t stopped peaking since.

Hopefully this is a joke/troll. If not, I feel sorry for the poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You play. To win. The game.

Elite high school sports demand both time and money. Film at 11. Johnny isn’t the first to burn out traveling on the path of a champion and he won’t be the last. Iron sharpens iron. You can find orange slices and participation trophies at plenty of programs.

If you want a sense of entitlement and privilege to later create Car Wash Coffee, go to Gonzaga. If you want to know hard work is rewarded on your way to building a global sports apparel brand, go to SJC.

And, yes, I am the 1%. I peaked in high school and haven’t stopped peaking since.

1 alumni of actual note in the entire SJC universe

Joe Robert. Jim Kimsey. Raul Fernandez. Yes, Kevin Plank. Ed Quinn. The list is longer and great- but the thing is GZ people woukd rather be known as bar owners. Which is hey- fine I guess. But not titans of industry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is just so much misinformation on this thread. The idea that Mark Gibbs (who works in like alumni development at a catholic school) is somehow living high on the hog is laughable. Yes- he charges reasonable fees for entire winter and summer programs. And no, i doubt they are all “pure profit”. Its probably not much different than any SJC or really any WCAC coach makes to help supplement their catholic school salary. I mean cmon.

This is not Joe Wooten in some million dollar house tooling around in a BMW. The Gibbs family are SJC legends. I played for Ed in the late 90s (and quit to play tennis instead for more playing time). But you know what? No sour grapes. They are good people. They are the exact opposite of grifters.

This whole stoey is a bit of a joke.

One high school coach in the entire area forces kids to play for (and pay thousands to) his half rate travel program or they can’t play for the school. I actually haven’t heard of another coach anywhere doing it. But you think it’s ok. Think you’ve lost credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is just so much misinformation on this thread. The idea that Mark Gibbs (who works in like alumni development at a catholic school) is somehow living high on the hog is laughable. Yes- he charges reasonable fees for entire winter and summer programs. And no, i doubt they are all “pure profit”. Its probably not much different than any SJC or really any WCAC coach makes to help supplement their catholic school salary. I mean cmon.

This is not Joe Wooten in some million dollar house tooling around in a BMW. The Gibbs family are SJC legends. I played for Ed in the late 90s (and quit to play tennis instead for more playing time). But you know what? No sour grapes. They are good people. They are the exact opposite of grifters.

This whole stoey is a bit of a joke.

Consider the fact that your experience is 20 years old and you didn't even play for the coach in questions. Since you last played baseball, the summer baseball landscape has changed significantly and the legendary Gibbs haven't bothered to keep up with it. No other St. John's coach requires participation in PAID out of season work outs and conditioning. So that makes any fee unreasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You play. To win. The game.

Elite high school sports demand both time and money. Film at 11. Johnny isn’t the first to burn out traveling on the path of a champion and he won’t be the last. Iron sharpens iron. You can find orange slices and participation trophies at plenty of programs.

If you want a sense of entitlement and privilege to later create Car Wash Coffee, go to Gonzaga. If you want to know hard work is rewarded on your way to building a global sports apparel brand, go to SJC.

And, yes, I am the 1%. I peaked in high school and haven’t stopped peaking since.

Hopefully this is a joke/troll. If not, I feel sorry for the poster.

It's either a troll or somebody's kid. Funny thing is that there is no either/or here. St. John's baseball players aren't the only hard workers in the baseball world. If they were, there would be more of them excelling at the next levels. You can love SJC and what it stands for and still call out abuse of power when you see it. You can be a hard worker and not go to SJC. See how that works?

[Anonymous]

The “iron sharpens iron” comment is what’s laughable.

The Gibbs summer teams quit in the middle or tourneys and plays against third rate competition (in front of few scouts or college coaches).

Kids who want to face better competition and not pay the Gibbs extortion fee are harassed and tossed aside.

Kids who stick to the program get to play at D3 schools or, if they’re lucky, walk on at a D1 school.

The purpose for program isn’t for the kids who strive to play against the best. It’s designed so the Gibbs boys can maximize profits off the baseball dreams of kids.