Pay-to-Play Sport at Private HS employing club coach - what's normal?

[Anonymous]

I'm a Bullis parent whose kids play on varsity teams for each season in different sports. I can tell you that there aren't any coaches or sports who are doing what the OP described at Bullis. Also, could people please just stop randomly stop slamming Bullis when it's not even being discussed? THere's already a 30+ page thread full of nonsense and half truths. It's tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kids who play in this soccer league are transferring to private school just to play soccer there? Why?

I don't know enough about high school soccer but other kids go to St Johns and other WCAC schools because it is one of the best athletic conferences in the country. Kids who play there get noticed and get athletic scholarships to college. And like I said I don't know enough about soccer, but top football and basketball (maybe baseball, lax and other sports) players can get full athletic scholarships to go to St Johns. Football doesn't have travel teams and I don't think the St Johns basketball coach has an AAU team. So those kids can go to high school for free and then go to college for free. I don't know how this works for soccer and other sports, but if they are getting scholarships at St Johns and then getting college scholarships, maybe its worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kids who play in this soccer league are transferring to private school just to play soccer there? Why?

I don't know enough about high school soccer but other kids go to St Johns and other WCAC schools because it is one of the best athletic conferences in the country. Kids who play there get noticed and get athletic scholarships to college. And like I said I don't know enough about soccer, but top football and basketball (maybe baseball, lax and other sports) players can get full athletic scholarships to go to St Johns. Football doesn't have travel teams and I don't think the St Johns basketball coach has an AAU team. So those kids can go to high school for free and then go to college for free. I don't know how this works for soccer and other sports, but if they are getting scholarships at St Johns and then getting college scholarships, maybe its worth it.

Good Counsel and soccer doing same thing. And their soccer is a joke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Between this and the college admissions scandal with fake athletic admits, who knew HS and college athletics were so damn shady? Adults always ruin things for good natured kids

Most things in the world are shady. You've lived a good life if you have been unaware all along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kids who play in this soccer league are transferring to private school just to play soccer there? Why?

I don't know enough about high school soccer but other kids go to St Johns and other WCAC schools because it is one of the best athletic conferences in the country. Kids who play there get noticed and get athletic scholarships to college. And like I said I don't know enough about soccer, but top football and basketball (maybe baseball, lax and other sports) players can get full athletic scholarships to go to St Johns. Football doesn't have travel teams and I don't think the St Johns basketball coach has an AAU team. So those kids can go to high school for free and then go to college for free. I don't know how this works for soccer and other sports, but if they are getting scholarships at St Johns and then getting college scholarships, maybe its worth it.

It doesn't work this way for soccer. At all. I'm sure there are some kids on merit aid at SJC, but that's about it. And no one is going on to D1 Scholarships. A few kids into DIII, but there are no athletic scholarships in that. One student from SJC is playing in D1 that I know of, and he never set foot on an SJC field due to Development Academy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kids who play in this soccer league are transferring to private school just to play soccer there? Why?

I don't know enough about high school soccer but other kids go to St Johns and other WCAC schools because it is one of the best athletic conferences in the country. Kids who play there get noticed and get athletic scholarships to college. And like I said I don't know enough about soccer, but top football and basketball (maybe baseball, lax and other sports) players can get full athletic scholarships to go to St Johns. Football doesn't have travel teams and I don't think the St Johns basketball coach has an AAU team. So those kids can go to high school for free and then go to college for free. I don't know how this works for soccer and other sports, but if they are getting scholarships at St Johns and then getting college scholarships, maybe its worth it.

It doesn't work this way for soccer. At all. I'm sure there are some kids on merit aid at SJC, but that's about it. And no one is going on to D1 Scholarships. A few kids into DIII, but there are no athletic scholarships in that. One student from SJC is playing in D1 that I know of, and he never set foot on an SJC field due to Development Academy.

These coaches are in it for the money. They don’t care about d1 recruits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Kids who play in this soccer league are transferring to private school just to play soccer there? Why?

I don't know enough about high school soccer but other kids go to St Johns and other WCAC schools because it is one of the best athletic conferences in the country. Kids who play there get noticed and get athletic scholarships to college. And like I said I don't know enough about soccer, but top football and basketball (maybe baseball, lax and other sports) players can get full athletic scholarships to go to St Johns. Football doesn't have travel teams and I don't think the St Johns basketball coach has an AAU team. So those kids can go to high school for free and then go to college for free. I don't know how this works for soccer and other sports, but if they are getting scholarships at St Johns and then getting college scholarships, maybe its worth it.

It doesn't work this way for soccer. At all. I'm sure there are some kids on merit aid at SJC, but that's about it. And no one is going on to D1 Scholarships. A few kids into DIII, but there are no athletic scholarships in that. One student from SJC is playing in D1 that I know of, and he never set foot on an SJC field due to Development Academy.

Soccer is so different than basketball in terms of the role of high school teams.

[Anonymous]

This is very common in swimming as well. At both clubs my kid swam, coaches only promoted those who also swam on their side gigs like summer leagues, clinics, took private lessons. I guess all sorts are money making machines now. It is very hard to find training environment where promotion is always directly related to performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is very common in swimming as well. At both clubs my kid swam, coaches only promoted those who also swam on their side gigs like summer leagues, clinics, took private lessons. I guess all sorts are money making machines now. It is very hard to find training environment where promotion is always directly related to performance.

I think it’s a little bit different when you’re talking about kids paying tens of thousands of dollars to go to private schools, and then the coaches at those schools require the kids to pay them extra thousands out of season. Criminal.

[Anonymous]

The beauty of unregulated capitalism, right?

[Anonymous]

Happens in all sports. We found this with track. If you paid to go to the coaches camps and training you were treated much better. . The amount of recruiting makes me wonder how much kick backs these coaches get. Is it legal?

[Anonymous]

The good thing is that you recognize the politics. When you notice these sorts of things, avoid the program. Don’t play under that coach. And if the sport is very important to your kid, find a new program to play under.

You can’t get the time back that is wasted playing in this bad situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is very common in swimming as well. At both clubs my kid swam, coaches only promoted those who also swam on their side gigs like summer leagues, clinics, took private lessons. I guess all sorts are money making machines now. It is very hard to find training environment where promotion is always directly related to performance.

I think it’s a little bit different when you’re talking about kids paying tens of thousands of dollars to go to private schools, and then the coaches at those schools require the kids to pay them extra thousands out of season. Criminal.

I agree (I am a swim mom). The worst thing is that talented children are wasting time instead of getting the training they need, and athlete's time is very limited - they have so much to do in middle/high school!
I would have just paid to such school coach, my child's time is more valuable. Switching teams also causes stress, etc.

[Anonymous]

SJC boys soccer. Salsoccer.com

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Bullis parent whose kids play on varsity teams for each season in different sports. I can tell you that there aren't any coaches or sports who are doing what the OP described at Bullis. Also, could people please just stop randomly stop slamming Bullis when it's not even being discussed? THere's already a 30+ page thread full of nonsense and half truths. It's tiresome.

You sound tiresome! What 30+ thread ? This is happening at Bullis for a fact. Look at Lax and track. Chill. It is happening at other schools too.