Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

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The whole point of this thread was schools, correct? I'm not sure how this whole housing thing started but if the point is that we should be expanding and building schools in closer in areas and not in the outer burbs like upcounty, because iof people's desires to live closer in, then that is flawed thinking.

No, that wasn't the point. Nobody is saying that.

So how is this housing talk and desirability to be closer- in related to the topic of schools, specifically this thread?

Because where your kids go to school depends on where you live, in MCPS.

Yes...we know that...and?

And so any discussion of schools inevitably becomes a discussion of housing.

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The whole point of this thread was schools, correct? I'm not sure how this whole housing thing started but if the point is that we should be expanding and building schools in closer in areas and not in the outer burbs like upcounty, because iof people's desires to live closer in, then that is flawed thinking.

No, that wasn't the point. Nobody is saying that.

So how is this housing talk and desirability to be closer- in related to the topic of schools, specifically this thread?

Because where your kids go to school depends on where you live, in MCPS.

And so any discussion of schools inevitably becomes a discussion of housing.

Ok whatevs. Many PPs above someone said: Now, probably due to commute time and/or people wanting "walkability", people are wanting to move closer in. And this is why now the outer burb schools are not as crowded, too

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Yes it would make more sense to build schools where residents live these days, clise-in. The failure to do this creates a school projected to house 4K students who don’t live anywhere nearby.

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Right. If you're walkable to Metro AND THERE ARE FACILITIES FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY WALK TO METRO, you live close-in.

What sort of facilities do you need to walk? Sidewalks? Are there really many places that are close enough to walk to metro, but the roads are such that you can't walk? It may not always be the most picturesque walk, but most places I can think of you certainly can walk.

In Maryland? Yes. Especially in Prince George's County, but also on the east side of the Red Line in Montgomery County, from Forest Glen north. Lots of areas in walking *distance* of the Metro station, but you'd never walk there unless you absolutely had to get there and that was the only option.

Oh please. I've lived walking distance from both Wheaton and Glenmont and walked to Metro every day. As did lots of my neighbors.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it would make more sense to build schools where residents live these days, clise-in. The failure to do this creates a school projected to house 4K students who don’t live anywhere nearby.

Yes, because there's no one in upcounty and no one is moving there despite the constant building that's happening in Gaithersburg and Clarksburg. Let's stop the SV expansion and the building of Crown HS and ignore the data despite the fact that it says that enrollment will continue to increase and that majority of the schools up here have already reached overcapacity. Let's just focus on the closer in neighborhoods because that's where EVERYONE wants to move to.

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https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/school-notes-take-a-look-at-the-mcps-school-crowding-heat-maps/

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Right. If you're walkable to Metro AND THERE ARE FACILITIES FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY WALK TO METRO, you live close-in.

What sort of facilities do you need to walk? Sidewalks? Are there really many places that are close enough to walk to metro, but the roads are such that you can't walk? It may not always be the most picturesque walk, but most places I can think of you certainly can walk.

In Maryland? Yes. Especially in Prince George's County, but also on the east side of the Red Line in Montgomery County, from Forest Glen north. Lots of areas in walking *distance* of the Metro station, but you'd never walk there unless you absolutely had to get there and that was the only option.

Oh please. I've lived walking distance from both Wheaton and Glenmont and walked to Metro every day. As did lots of my neighbors.

Right, I walk to Wheaton through a pretty neighborhood. this is ridiculous

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Right. If you're walkable to Metro AND THERE ARE FACILITIES FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY WALK TO METRO, you live close-in.

What sort of facilities do you need to walk? Sidewalks? Are there really many places that are close enough to walk to metro, but the roads are such that you can't walk? It may not always be the most picturesque walk, but most places I can think of you certainly can walk.

In Maryland? Yes. Especially in Prince George's County, but also on the east side of the Red Line in Montgomery County, from Forest Glen north. Lots of areas in walking *distance* of the Metro station, but you'd never walk there unless you absolutely had to get there and that was the only option.

Oh please. I've lived walking distance from both Wheaton and Glenmont and walked to Metro every day. As did lots of my neighbors.

Right, I walk to Wheaton through a pretty neighborhood. this is ridiculous

I wonder if the PP is worried about cars or gangs?!?!

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Right. If you're walkable to Metro AND THERE ARE FACILITIES FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY WALK TO METRO, you live close-in.

What sort of facilities do you need to walk? Sidewalks? Are there really many places that are close enough to walk to metro, but the roads are such that you can't walk? It may not always be the most picturesque walk, but most places I can think of you certainly can walk.

In Maryland? Yes. Especially in Prince George's County, but also on the east side of the Red Line in Montgomery County, from Forest Glen north. Lots of areas in walking *distance* of the Metro station, but you'd never walk there unless you absolutely had to get there and that was the only option.

Oh please. I've lived walking distance from both Wheaton and Glenmont and walked to Metro every day. As did lots of my neighbors.

Right, I walk to Wheaton through a pretty neighborhood. this is ridiculous

I wonder if the PP is worried about cars or gangs?!?!

Sounds like the type of person who has never been to Wheaton and has some pretty wacky and unfounded ideas about the place.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ but I completely agree the 25% mark seems to be the magic number to which the county should strive for since it seems to benefit the kids

There aren’t enough rich kids for the east county’s slipping demographics

There are words for people who think that some demographic groups are better than other demographic groups, though.

Also, you're behind the times.

Realists? Demographics don’t always equal race

They can also represent poverty, non-Native speakers, education levels, intact house holds or criminality rates. Those are all increasing in wrong directions in the eastern and northern parts of MoCo. If you think of a particular race for any of those then you are the racist. But the plan the export those to the west’s schools won’t change your neighborhood or help those kids. It will just mask a few of them in superior sastistics. There will be plenty of poor kids to back fill them in the DCC.

That is really the problem here right? The rich suburban schools of yesteryear are now devolving to poor urban-ish schools as wealth migrates back into the cities. The middle class remaining wonder what is happening and look west and see what they thought they were buying into and wonder why those got to resist the change. Mean while no matter how you bus, rezone, balance or breakup, the county will have a title 1 middle school in the not to distant future and most likely a high school soon after. The county is gaining poor people quicker than rich people and they live in just a few areas because the metro is so pricy. But careful punishing the rich people, if an exodus occurs it will only speed the decay.

In certain areas east county their as affluent as up county

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Seems like this is just a measure of a school's average affluence and has little to do with how the top performers at these schools stack up. Is there a more granular analysis that factors differences in SES?

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I love Poolesville HS.

Laid back, low pressure, mostly magnet, academic rigor, great teachers, diverse, not racist, good kids from good educated families, very little issues that happen in other schools, idyllic. The worst news that we heard was that some kids have done vaping! I can live with that.

Of course, since my kids have only gone to PHS GE and SMCS houses, I do not have understanding of how the rest of MCPS high schools are. I am sure all of them are lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Poolesville HS.

Laid back, low pressure, mostly magnet, academic rigor, great teachers, diverse, not racist, good kids from good educated families, very little issues that happen in other schools, idyllic. The worst news that we heard was that some kids have done vaping! I can live with that.

Of course, since my kids have only gone to PHS GE and SMCS houses, I do not have understanding of how the rest of MCPS high schools are. I am sure all of them are lovely.

Half magnet, non-diverse, and I've been told by multiple people whose kids were home-school kids that there's a lot of resentment of the whole magnet thing by the home-school kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like this is just a measure of a school's average affluence and has little to do with how the top performers at these schools stack up. Is there a more granular analysis that factors differences in SES?

No, because MCPS doesn't track socioeconomic status. They only track race/ethnicity and whether or not a given kid has received FARMS and/or ESOL.

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Good. Too high of stakes to do all the bonehead stuff they pull in k-8 curriculum. Frankly it’s the only thing working ok for an average or good student.