Spring 2017 soccer club tryouts

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have any experience with Burke AC, Team America, or SCAA? Looking at smaller clubs in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

this was us too. the minute I heard the player bashing anytime a kid was asked to guest play up. I was done. I didn't want my kids in that environment. I didn't want myself in that environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with Burke AC, Team America, or SCAA? Looking at smaller clubs in the area.

SCAA/South County is our local club and they rebranded from FCV to South County last year and it is a relatively young club. We went to the tryouts for U9 last year and I would say roughly 8 kids showed up. One of the players is our neighbor and they left mid year. He told me the training was subpar and that to complete the team they played up U8 rec players. Because of that in every game they were getting blown out by double digits and his kid didnt want to play anymore. Yes I know its not about winning but you hope it is atleast slightly competitive. He ate the remaining costs to make the switch. I looked at the coaching lineup and they changed coaches again for the 3rd yr straight. I know its not my direct experience but thought I would share. Not trying to sway anyone so perhaps still request to attend or seeing a practice and attend the tryouts. Perhaps it has or will get better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

this was us too. the minute I heard the player bashing anytime a kid was asked to guest play up. I was done. I didn't want my kids in that environment. I didn't want myself in that environment.

What the parents on the team they are guest playing on say is even worse a lot of the time. They see the kid as a threat to their own child's placement. The kids won't pass to the guest player either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our 2009 born DS is a very gifted player who has played w/ Stoddert for 4 years -- now that he's old enough for travel we're torn b/c we want to attend to his development and he's gung ho to try out, but we're wary of the all consuming time commitment of travel soccer. Has anyone had experience with the DC Youth Futbol Club? Are there other options in DC or nearby MD where we wouldn't be sacrificing his skill development or future options for top tier play by going with a less intense travel schedule? Thanks for any advice!

"A very gifted player" is bold. There are a lot of really talented kids around this region. But if that's what you've got and what you're looking for, I fear you might be disappointed by DCYFC. DCYFC has great kids and a cool idea for training, as does PPA in this area, but a really gifted kid might want more. I'd recommend Achilles FC/ www.salsoccer.com they have some really talented kids and are also considering a less time consuming alternative for strong players that will keep them competitive And the coaching is demanding and excellent.

So it depends on how much training you want. DCYFC is travel lite- 2x week training and one day a week winter in NW. Achilles is 3x a week(location? Lower or upper Montgomery Co. can be a pain if you are coming from DC). Stoddert travel I'd also an option for DC. I think is x3 a week in NW also.

So the difference between travel and rec soccer is night and day. You have paid coaches and the players on average are the better players from rec. So think back on your son's games. Over the course of all his games, you may remember one or two kids who you thought were really good. Those are the player who will make up a top travel team or club soccer. These kids will get professional coaching 3x a week and will develop fairly quickly. They also develop faster because they play against better kids at practice. The speed of play is very noticeable(i.e. You do not get much time or space to screw around with the ball).
Travel lite is in between a top travel team(big commitment, lots of training)and rec(no commitment, training questionable).
At u9 you can play travel lite and develop. You do the same skill work just in a less demanding environment. You can always tell which players have technical skills at tryouts. If your son wants to tryout for a full travel team later(u10 or u11) he can. What you do is hire really good coach for private training the winter and spring before your travel tryout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

this was us too. the minute I heard the player bashing anytime a kid was asked to guest play up. I was done. I didn't want my kids in that environment. I didn't want myself in that environment.

What the parents on the team they are guest playing on say is even worse a lot of the time. They see the kid as a threat to their own child's placement. The kids won't pass to the guest player either.

Everyone else's kid is 'average at best'...until their own player starts moving down the chain. Then, it's complete outrage. How our these average kids getting promoted? See it time and time again as their kids age upwards. It's harder for the parents to take, then the kids most of the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

ADP is a good program, and all my kids have done it - but it is a slower pace of play than travel - but all games are in Arlington - which is a plus. You get one professional coached session and a parent coached session. Travel does require more of a time and parent involvement requirement - all parents must sign up for certain duties. It is challenging when kids have to play above their grade since they don't really get to play with their classmates - but you'll face that with ADP as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

this was us too. the minute I heard the player bashing anytime a kid was asked to guest play up. I was done. I didn't want my kids in that environment. I didn't want myself in that environment.

Posters here bashin' youngers at tryouts now too. They think their 7 yr old is better then some other 7 yr old. Really? Already?

Having seen this in action with olders, it is mostly middle tier players and their families. The very top and very bottom tiers seem less affected, at least initially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with Burke AC, Team America, or SCAA? Looking at smaller clubs in the area.

SCAA/South County is our local club and they rebranded from FCV to South County last year and it is a relatively young club. We went to the tryouts for U9 last year and I would say roughly 8 kids showed up. One of the players is our neighbor and they left mid year. He told me the training was subpar and that to complete the team they played up U8 rec players. Because of that in every game they were getting blown out by double digits and his kid didnt want to play anymore. Yes I know its not about winning but you hope it is atleast slightly competitive. He ate the remaining costs to make the switch. I looked at the coaching lineup and they changed coaches again for the 3rd yr straight. I know its not my direct experience but thought I would share. Not trying to sway anyone so perhaps still request to attend or seeing a practice and attend the tryouts. Perhaps it has or will get better.

Something must have changed, because I saw their U9s play a couple of weeks ago and thought they were OK. They weren't playing a particularly good team, but they were certainly outplaying the opposition and playing the "right" way (passing, dribbling, not kickball).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U9 parent in Arlington here (the one with all the questions about U9 travel soccer and schedules). Thanks to everyone for their input. I really appreciate it.

This seems like a LOT for a second grader (next year), but I understand that the only way we can tell whether it is worth it is by giving it a try for a year. Still undecided about whether to do that, or just default to ADP now. But that's my problem. Thanks to you all for being so helpful!

Some advice

Find out which team you are on and research the coach. Go watch some of his/her current trainings. The quality and personality of the coach is probably the key to whether you will come back next year. Travel is a HUGE commitment, there is nothing really optional (lots of missed bday parties, vacations planned AROUND travel commitments, etc.) even at U9.

If great coach and teammates, these things won't be viewed as sacrifices and you may decide to become a travel soccer family. But, if training is poor, coach not reinforcing the development you want, and/or you can't play well as a team in at least a handful of games (play, not results), then you will probably not come back.

The cost of travel is not the dollars, but your time. We loved it at U9, but gave up many extracurricular things. No way around that.

FINALLY, ignore the negativity from posters caught up in the team makeups, or think the club is corrupt. Most parents are fine, supportive, and realistic about their player. Sounds like you are too. But there are some parents who do complain about this stuff and think there is some conspiracy against their player or that they got outsmarted by some other parent. You will see these parents at the U9 meeting if you decide to accept. You see them complain on this board about tryouts and everything else. From our experience, these players and families become known within the club in a year or two, and their player as it turns out was average at best. Just enjoy the season and ignore them. Other clubs we have been at have these same parents. U9 tryouts seem to bring out the worst in people.

Good luck.

I agree. From our experience, the big CCL clubs attract the worst of them. I think because people are under the false assumption that they do something better in the younger years. They also are so large there isn't a lot of personal attention or a feeling that whatever complaints a team has as a whole are being heard. That creates dissatisfaction for some. Some actually leave because OF THE PARENTS, not the Club or the Coach. There are some real crazies out there---you will eventually see their true colors.

its because there are so many teams at ccl clubs. take the same boy or girl, same skills, and if they is on A team, they are magically happy, but a lower C team??, they get pissed!!, and rhen start watching other teams practice, comparing their kid to higher players, and all the crap. never mind that their kid has same ability in the end, and neither team is going to make them exponentially better ... or worse.
that was what made us sick; crazy grown-ups comparing little boys and girls. look at all the pps talking about a stupid U9 tryout at one of the biggest CCL clubs and comparing who should be where and who is on what end of the field.

run, don't walk.

this was us too. the minute I heard the player bashing anytime a kid was asked to guest play up. I was done. I didn't want my kids in that environment. I didn't want myself in that environment.

Posters here bashin' youngers at tryouts now too. They think their 7 yr old is better then some other 7 yr old. Really? Already?

Having seen this in action with olders, it is mostly middle tier players and their families. The very top and very bottom tiers seem less affected, at least initially.

To some extent, I've seen parents on the A team viciously bad-mouth kids below for the threat of their kid's spot. They are by far the most type-A of the bunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with Burke AC, Team America, or SCAA? Looking at smaller clubs in the area.

SCAA/South County is our local club and they rebranded from FCV to South County last year and it is a relatively young club. We went to the tryouts for U9 last year and I would say roughly 8 kids showed up. One of the players is our neighbor and they left mid year. He told me the training was subpar and that to complete the team they played up U8 rec players. Because of that in every game they were getting blown out by double digits and his kid didnt want to play anymore. Yes I know its not about winning but you hope it is atleast slightly competitive. He ate the remaining costs to make the switch. I looked at the coaching lineup and they changed coaches again for the 3rd yr straight. I know its not my direct experience but thought I would share. Not trying to sway anyone so perhaps still request to attend or seeing a practice and attend the tryouts. Perhaps it has or will get better.

Something must have changed, because I saw their U9s play a couple of weeks ago and thought they were OK. They weren't playing a particularly good team, but they were certainly outplaying the opposition and playing the "right" way (passing, dribbling, not kickball).

Thanks this is helpful. The costs/commitment seem on par with other teams and the location is good. I am familiar with the new coaches. I guess my son could go to tryouts and see what it is like.
I'm not super interested in 3 days/week for a second grader. Is that the norm around here??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with Burke AC, Team America, or SCAA? Looking at smaller clubs in the area.

SCAA/South County is our local club and they rebranded from FCV to South County last year and it is a relatively young club. We went to the tryouts for U9 last year and I would say roughly 8 kids showed up. One of the players is our neighbor and they left mid year. He told me the training was subpar and that to complete the team they played up U8 rec players. Because of that in every game they were getting blown out by double digits and his kid didnt want to play anymore. Yes I know its not about winning but you hope it is atleast slightly competitive. He ate the remaining costs to make the switch. I looked at the coaching lineup and they changed coaches again for the 3rd yr straight. I know its not my direct experience but thought I would share. Not trying to sway anyone so perhaps still request to attend or seeing a practice and attend the tryouts. Perhaps it has or will get better.

Something must have changed, because I saw their U9s play a couple of weeks ago and thought they were OK. They weren't playing a particularly good team, but they were certainly outplaying the opposition and playing the "right" way (passing, dribbling, not kickball).

Thanks this is helpful. The costs/commitment seem on par with other teams and the location is good. I am familiar with the new coaches. I guess my son could go to tryouts and see what it is like.
I'm not super interested in 3 days/week for a second grader. Is that the norm around here??

Yes, but not until last year. The change to birth year from school calendar year majorly sucks and is the reason you have kids in lower grades starting too soon.

[Anonymous]

Crap my kid guest plays up every so often. Does that mean he is getting bad mouthed?? I have never seen that type of behavior on our sidelines one way or another. The only way you could know about it is if you engage in that sort of discussion. I would say its ok to observe and comment on strong and weak players...I would not consider that bad mouthing by any means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crap my kid guest plays up every so often. Does that mean he is getting bad mouthed?? I have never seen that type of behavior on our sidelines one way or another. The only way you could know about it is if you engage in that sort of discussion. I would say its ok to observe and comment on strong and weak players...I would not consider that bad mouthing by any means.

There you have it. Parents saying the kid is weak and shouldn't be there. The coach pulled him up or down. Shut your mouth.

It's assholish to be talking about kids.