Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe she does not want to live in the suburbs, so the suburban schools are not good ones (in her mind).

We didn't want to move to the suburbs either, but we did. We faced up to the fact that DC schools weren't going to improve in time for our kids who are now teenagers. And we didn't want to demand the DC government tae away money from the poor or elderly to serve our kids. So we moved. It's called being a grown up.

New to the argument - but I agree with you. If I find that our schools aren't meeting my kids needs - I will be moving or going private. I don't really have the means do this - but I will find a way. Their education comes absolutely first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

A bigot is a person who is unreasonably dedicated to his/her own ideas and treats a member of a group with intolerance.

The fact is that some gifted kids get bored because they are not being adequately challenged in class.

Saying that "truly gifted" kids don't get bored is both mistaken and bigoted.

Saying that people who claim to have highly gifted kids are delusional is bigoted.

Saying that it is "ridiculous" that parents say their gifted child is bored in class because the class isn't challenging enough is bigoted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A bigot is a person who is unreasonably dedicated to his/her own ideas and treats a member of a group with intolerance.

The fact is that some gifted kids get bored because they are not being adequately challenged in class.

Saying that "truly gifted" kids don't get bored is both mistaken and bigoted.

Saying that people who claim to have highly gifted kids are delusional is bigoted.

Saying that it is "ridiculous" that parents say their gifted child is bored in class because the class isn't challenging enough is bigoted.

I'm being serious not snarky: by your own definition, you are a bigot.

There are several posters here with teaching experience, advanced degrees, experience as gifted kids themselves, or experience as parents of gifted kids. Many (most?) disagree with you. In a few cases these are professional opinions.

Your response? Attack, call people names, twist their words into something they never said, ignore inconvenient arguments, change the subject in response to points made against you, plagiarize, post made-up statistics. I've seen you do this again and again on this thread. And again. And when we finally get down to the nub of the argument, which is that DC isn't going to do anything and you don't want to move, you change the subject and start lashing out and calling all of us bigots. Sounds like the definition of a "bigot" to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

OMG. Did you actually just dream this up? And then you actually typed it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A bigot is a person who is unreasonably dedicated to his/her own ideas and treats a member of a group with intolerance.

The fact is that some gifted kids get bored because they are not being adequately challenged in class.

Saying that "truly gifted" kids don't get bored is both mistaken and bigoted.

Saying that people who claim to have highly gifted kids are delusional is bigoted.

Saying that it is "ridiculous" that parents say their gifted child is bored in class because the class isn't challenging enough is bigoted.

I'm being serious not snarky: by your own definition, you are a bigot.

There are several posters here with teaching experience, advanced degrees, experience as gifted kids themselves, or experience as parents of gifted kids. Many (most?) disagree with you. In a few cases these are professional opinions.

Your response? Attack, call people names, twist their words into something they never said, ignore inconvenient arguments, change the subject in response to points made against you, plagiarize, post made-up statistics. I've seen you do this again and again on this thread. And again. And when we finally get down to the nub of the argument, which is that DC isn't going to do anything and you don't want to move, you change the subject and start lashing out and calling all of us bigots. Sounds like the definition of a "bigot" to me.

I think you are confused about the number of posters. I'm the person using the word "bigot" and I haven't posted any stats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

OMG. Did you actually just dream this up? And then you actually typed it?

You got a better reason that the "teacher" on this thread has for her opinions which utterly contradict the research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A bigot is a person who is unreasonably dedicated to his/her own ideas and treats a member of a group with intolerance.

The fact is that some gifted kids get bored because they are not being adequately challenged in class.

Saying that "truly gifted" kids don't get bored is both mistaken and bigoted.

Saying that people who claim to have highly gifted kids are delusional is bigoted.

Saying that it is "ridiculous" that parents say their gifted child is bored in class because the class isn't challenging enough is bigoted.

I'm being serious not snarky: by your own definition, you are a bigot.

There are several posters here with teaching experience, advanced degrees, experience as gifted kids themselves, or experience as parents of gifted kids. Many (most?) disagree with you. In a few cases these are professional opinions.

Your response? Attack, call people names, twist their words into something they never said, ignore inconvenient arguments, change the subject in response to points made against you, plagiarize, post made-up statistics. I've seen you do this again and again on this thread. And again. And when we finally get down to the nub of the argument, which is that DC isn't going to do anything and you don't want to move, you change the subject and start lashing out and calling all of us bigots. Sounds like the definition of a "bigot" to me.

I think you are confused about the number of posters. I'm the person using the word "bigot" and I haven't posted any stats.

That was directed at the creator of the "3-5% of kids have IQs over 140" stat. But if that wasn't you, I'm sorry. However, if you've employed any of the other sleazy rhetorical strategies listed above, then the shoe still fits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

OMG. Did you actually just dream this up? And then you actually typed it?

You got a better reason that the "teacher" on this thread has for her opinions which utterly contradict the research.

Yeah, uh ... experience. She said she had 20-30 years of experience. Also, the child development PhD said the literature supports teacher's opinions, although she didn't link to any studies.

[Anonymous]

The very angry poster is constantly confused because people just do not agree with her/him.

[Anonymous]

The OP went on for 30 pages hoping to change the DC school system?? Wow. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP went on for 30 pages hoping to change the DC school system?? Wow. Just wow.

Her inevitable frustration explains the need to go down rhetorical rabbit holes and insult everybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

That nails it for me, too. The only plausible reason for arguing against meeting childrens' needs is "I've always done it this way and I don't want to have to change anything."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

Or maybe she's thinking, if this kid is really such a genius, s/he would be in AAP instead. Seems more reasonable than your imagined scenarios.

That nails it for me, too. The only plausible reason for arguing against meeting childrens' needs is "I've always done it this way and I don't want to have to change anything."

[Anonymous]

This thread has gone into the surreal. But I'm happy to play along.

I imagine all the posters worried about their bored genius snowflakes and calling everyone else bigots are actually very insecure because their DCs didn't get accepted into magnet programs. So they think it must be a plot by people who "hate gifted kids" to keep the gifted kids down.