Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?

[Anonymous]

Figuring out this thread is a twister but try this: my kid is not gifted and neither is yours. And BTW, you're a bigot. And never mind your f***ing degree, you know NOTHING!!!!

[Anonymous]

^^ and neither do all those crazy sudies on that crazy ol' internet. Yee--haw!

[Anonymous]

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You are clearly so enraged that you can't type straight. Typical of you and your side!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(studies --oops bad word)

You are clearly so enraged that you can't type straight. Typical of you and your side!

Just joking around but ... (am I on a side?), oh I am part of the conspiracy, right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(studies --oops bad word)

You are clearly so enraged that you can't type straight. Typical of you and your side!

Just joking around but ... (am I on a side?), oh I am part of the conspiracy, right.

Yes, the bit about being enraged was a joke. Not to some posters on this thread, though....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

Or maybe she's thinking, if this kid is really such a genius, s/he would be in AAP instead. Seems more reasonable than your imagined scenarios.

That nails it for me, too. The only plausible reason for arguing against meeting childrens' needs is "I've always done it this way and I don't want to have to change anything."

Once again, point missed.

AAP does not exist in DCPS schools. "If your kid's such a genius" and you are a DC resident, you are screwed. Unless you have the financial and logistical luxury of being able to move or pay - which most of us don't. And, in terms of the scope of the problem, it's already shown that there are likely thousands of kids in DC who would qualify, but whose needs are not being met.

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Anonymous wrote:There are more than one person disagreeing with you, please stop pretending you don't see that. So "conspiracy" it is.

A conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or wrongful act. A random bunch of bigots isn't a conspiracy.

A "bigot" isn't someone who disagrees with you. And what's the BS about posters having hidden "agendas"? If this is the way you behave IRL, I sure don't want you in my kid's GT program.

If I had to guess at the hiidden agenda from the teacher, it would be this: "Some parents criticized my teaching because their gifted children are not getting sufficient challenge in my class. I'm not going to rant and rave that if their kid is bored and acting out in my class, it's because the kid is a brat with delusional parents, rather than the fact that my teaching isn't reaching this kid. I don't need to change a thing. I'm a perfect teacher! Go me!"

Or maybe she's thinking, if this kid is really such a genius, s/he would be in AAP instead. Seems more reasonable than your imagined scenarios.

That nails it for me, too. The only plausible reason for arguing against meeting childrens' needs is "I've always done it this way and I don't want to have to change anything."

Once again, point missed.

AAP does not exist in DCPS schools. "If your kid's such a genius" and you are a DC resident, you are screwed. Unless you have the financial and logistical luxury of being able to move or pay - which most of us don't. And, in terms of the scope of the problem, it's already shown that there are likely thousands of kids in DC who would qualify, but whose needs are not being met.

No, you missed the point that several other posters made. In fact, you missed several points. First, the teacher is a VA teacher, so she probably WAS thinking, why isn't this kid in AAP? Second, since you twisted the original issue around again, let me respond to the new, twisted version: we all KNOW AAP doesn't exist in DC, and that's precisely why several posters have counseled you to stop moaning on DCUM and MOVE ALREADY. As a PP said (not me), it's amazing you've managed to drag this out for 30 pages, but you've accomplished nothing towards changing DC public schools. Move already.

Also, the idea that "thousands of kids in DC would qualify" has been well and truly debunked. See 06/10/2013 21:54 for the derivation of the figure of 1,013 kids with IQs of 130 or above in the system. or 78 kids per grade with IQs of 130 or higher in K-12. So "one thousand" not "thousands." Geez, why is it so hard for you to be intellectually honest?

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Once again, point missed.

AAP does not exist in DCPS schools. "If your kid's such a genius" and you are a DC resident, you are screwed. Unless you have the financial and logistical luxury of being able to move or pay - which most of us don't. And, in terms of the scope of the problem, it's already shown that there are likely thousands of kids in DC who would qualify, but whose needs are not being met.

If I could parody this, it would go something like....

"Gee, PP is talking about VA schools. That doesn't work for me because VA does have GT differentiation. Bummer, that totally undermines my whole point. So let me veer off into accusing PP of not understanding DC schools. I think I'm so smart and she'll never understand this little trick. Who is as smart as me, after all? For extra kicks I'll throw in some fake facts that somebody disproved a few pages ago, and hope she doesn't notice."

[Anonymous]

When are you going to understand that "move to VA already" is simply not an acceptable answer to many of us?

Here's a solution: Why don't those of you who do live in VA and do have G&T programs do the rest of us a favor and just stop posting already, given you obviously do not understand or relate to the problem here in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Once again, point missed.

AAP does not exist in DCPS schools. "If your kid's such a genius" and you are a DC resident, you are screwed. Unless you have the financial and logistical luxury of being able to move or pay - which most of us don't. And, in terms of the scope of the problem, it's already shown that there are likely thousands of kids in DC who would qualify, but whose needs are not being met.

If I could parody this, it would go something like....

"Gee, PP is talking about VA schools. That doesn't work for me because VA does have GT differentiation. Bummer, that totally undermines my whole point. So let me veer off into accusing PP of not understanding DC schools. I think I'm so smart and she'll never understand this little trick. Who is as smart as me, after all? For extra kicks I'll throw in some fake facts that somebody disproved a few pages ago, and hope she doesn't notice."

Who are you kidding? This whole thread has been a parody. The haves in VA mocking the have nots in DC, and generally making asses of themselves in the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are you going to understand that "move to VA already" is simply not an acceptable answer to many of us?

Here's a solution: Why don't those of you who do live in VA and do have G&T programs do the rest of us a favor and just stop posting already, given you obviously do not understand or relate to the problem here in DC.

Um, if the point of this thread was to discuss lack of gifted education in DC schools, then duh! You guys put this in the wrong forum.

In case you didn't notice, this is the "Schools and Education General Discussion" NOT the "DC Schools" forum.

All crazies of all stripes are welcome here.

Who knew...there is actually a place where the VA AAP moms are the sanest ones posting. Live and learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are you going to understand that "move to VA already" is simply not an acceptable answer to many of us?

Here's a solution: Why don't those of you who do live in VA and do have G&T programs do the rest of us a favor and just stop posting already, given you obviously do not understand or relate to the problem here in DC.

Anyone want to try their hand at parodying this one? I'll give it a shot.

"I chose to live in DC where there are no gifted programs. DC is bored in school, he also disrupts the class on a regular basis, so I don't think you need anymore evidenc that he's a genius. I am too good for the burbs, so DC must change. If I post for 30 pages on DCUM, that should bring sympathy for me and gifted programs to DC."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When are you going to understand that "move to VA already" is simply not an acceptable answer to many of us?

Here's a solution: Why don't those of you who do live in VA and do have G&T programs do the rest of us a favor and just stop posting already, given you obviously do not understand or relate to the problem here in DC.

Um, if the point of this thread was to discuss lack of gifted education in DC schools, then duh! You guys put this in the wrong forum.

In case you didn't notice, this is the "Schools and Education General Discussion" NOT the "DC Schools" forum.

All crazies of all stripes are welcome here.

Who knew...there is actually a place where the VA AAP moms are the sanest ones posting. Live and learn.

In case YOU didn't notice, this entire website is called the DC Urban Moms and Dads forum, and here you are, whining about the "crazy" DC posters who are intruding here stupidly posting about DC school issues. (that's sarcasm, in case you didn't get it)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When are you going to understand that "move to VA already" is simply not an acceptable answer to many of us?

Here's a solution: Why don't those of you who do live in VA and do have G&T programs do the rest of us a favor and just stop posting already, given you obviously do not understand or relate to the problem here in DC.

Anyone want to try their hand at parodying this one? I'll give it a shot.

"I chose to live in DC where there are no gifted programs. DC is bored in school, he also disrupts the class on a regular basis, so I don't think you need anymore evidenc that he's a genius. I am too good for the burbs, so DC must change. If I post for 30 pages on DCUM, that should bring sympathy for me and gifted programs to DC."

That's not at all what was being said. There are many kids in DC public schools who have been tested to have very high IQ but whose needs are not being met by the DCPS system.

30 pages and you still didn't comprehend that basic reality that there are indeed children who test with high IQ, for whom traditional curriculum is not enough and whose needs are not being met (and yes, many do indeed get bored as a result), and instead, once again you insisted on repeating your same old stale, backward-logic nonsense about "oh, my little Johnny is bored, therefore he must be gifted, no need for testing, just give me the program". Nobody here but you has ever suggested that boredom is an indicator of giftedness. What's been said is that all kids can get bored. But more to the point regarding gifted children is that gifted children may more easily get bored in class because it moves at far too slow of a pace and is too repetetive for gifted learners, and that they can benefit from acceleration and additional challenge from the normal curriculum. That's an entirely different concept from what you keep repeating.