How can we combat deep misogyny?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a women who voted for Hillary, Warren in primary, and Harris, I will not endorse a women again because this country is not ready. My boys are, but only one can vote in the next election cycle

Same. No more Dem women at the top of the ticket.

So a republican woman ok? No way will I ever vote R again. The majority can be wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

It’s not exactly secret that women have to be near perfect to secure the same job an average man has access to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

It’s not exactly secret that women have to be near perfect to secure the same job an average man has access to.

This...is not true. Why do you keep saying this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

It’s not exactly secret that women have to be near perfect to secure the same job an average man has access to.

This...is not true. Why do you keep saying this?

You work in a competitive field like finance or tech?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

It’s not exactly secret that women have to be near perfect to secure the same job an average man has access to.

This...is not true. Why do you keep saying this?

You work in a competitive field like finance or tech?

Yes. You're really saying that women in tech need to be more qualified than men to get the same jobs? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.

If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?

We can't with an administration coming in where both the president and VP are raving misogynists not to mention his choice for Sec. of Defense. Trump has tokenism with his CoS and Noehm but they won't last.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.

If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?

We can't with an administration coming in where both the president and VP are raving misogynists not to mention his choice for Sec. of Defense. Trump has tokenism with his CoS and Noehm but they won't last.

Well, at least you can take comfort in the fact that the nominee for Attorney General seems to like women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

It’s not exactly secret that women have to be near perfect to secure the same job an average man has access to.

This...is not true. Why do you keep saying this?

You work in a competitive field like finance or tech?

Yes. You're really saying that women in tech need to be more qualified than men to get the same jobs? Really?

It's absolutely true in the sciences. You have to be more accomplished, with a better training pedigree, but also a pleasant colleague (not a requirement for men), but not too girly, but not too aggressive. And even then, the chair of your department is going to be some guy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally I’m starting with my daughters and the issues they face at school.

As an example, DD was talking with a friend and school and a boy came over and immediately hijacked the conversation, kept telling DD she’s wrong, being overall obnoxious. DD asked him to leave them alone and he refused.

The school teaches the kids to just walk away in that situation. DD instead told the guy to move on or she’d kick his ass.

DD got in trouble and I stood up for her. I explained that the boys need to learn no means no. They aren’t entitled to a conversation with my daughter, they aren’t entitled to make her leave an area she wants to be in.

I’m just so tired of the “boys will be boys” mentality when they’re young. It leads to them growing up to be entitled men.

So DD knows if a boy is giving her problems, we fully support her doing whatever she needs to do to get him to go away.

Good for you, PP. i love that she had no self doubt about her physical capabilities. Commenters complaining about her “threatening “physical violence” in response to his actual physical aggression (I.e., not leaving them alone, as requested) are so off-base. The boy didn’t have the right to physically bother her - he’s the one who should have gotten in trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

I feel this is a bad answer. Put up a better Dem candidate. Then the grifter may have been beat. It takes two sides. But to directly answer your question -- a majority of people felt that the grifter was better than Harris. You may disagree. I disagree -- I did not vote for the grifter. But you have to understand that given the choice the majority picked the grifter. That says more about Harris than it does the grifter.

No. It says everything we need to know about the people who voted for him and overall our country's morals and values. It says that they would rather vote for a man who is a rapist and felon over a black woman. A "man" who incited an insurrection and almost had his VP killed. A man who is set on destroying democracy. We got a taste of how bad a Trumps presidency could be and now we are going to get the whole meal.

[Anonymous]

I think you have to let this type of man behavior fail publicly and then a better man come along and offer a different way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

I feel this is a bad answer. Put up a better Dem candidate. Then the grifter may have been beat. It takes two sides. But to directly answer your question -- a majority of people felt that the grifter was better than Harris. You may disagree. I disagree -- I did not vote for the grifter. But you have to understand that given the choice the majority picked the grifter. That says more about Harris than it does the grifter.

But it doesn't. It says a hell of a lot about the people who voted for him. It says a lot about their education, their priorities, their beliefs, their fears, but Kamala was a better candidate. I know she lost. I know the majority voted for Trump. You can even blame some of it on the priorities of the Democratic party. But it doesn't mean she wasn't infinitely a better candidate than trump.

Exactly.

She was an absolutely horrible candidate, by any metric.

Compared to Trump, she is a saint.

+1

[Anonymous]

More women need to stay in the workforce so that it’s easier for all of us to fight for equal rights and work life balance. But the opposite will happen because of cultural forces and the trump administration—I’m sure Vance will find a way to stick it to working women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More women need to stay in the workforce so that it’s easier for all of us to fight for equal rights and work life balance. But the opposite will happen because of cultural forces and the trump administration—I’m sure Vance will find a way to stick it to working women.

No, women need to be at home taking care of their children instead of Day Care strangers.

And women already have equal rights, what feminist hags are running their stupid loud mouths about are having “special rights” where having a vagina automatically gets you hired for a management or CEO position.

Trump and Vance will hopefully bring in more merit-based hiring in the govt instead of Diversity/DEI quota hires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More women need to stay in the workforce so that it’s easier for all of us to fight for equal rights and work life balance. But the opposite will happen because of cultural forces and the trump administration—I’m sure Vance will find a way to stick it to working women.

No, women need to be at home taking care of their children instead of Day Care strangers.

And women already have equal rights, what feminist hags are running their stupid loud mouths about are having “special rights” where having a vagina automatically gets you hired for a management or CEO position.

Trump and Vance will hopefully bring in more merit-based hiring in the govt instead of Diversity/DEI quota hires.

This is the kind of rhetoric we will increasingly see. The silver lining for me is that the more women stay home, more opportunities for me and other ambitious working women.