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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

I hate to say it, but as a Loudoun parent, Loudoun County is going to sweep everything they can under the rug. The less paperwork they send in, the better the county looks....

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

You have to go over the AD's head- get the school board rep involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

You have to go over the AD's head- get the school board rep involved.

This is Loudoun County. Nothing will happen unless you have a story for the local news.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

Agree, families have no recourse. They are assigned a school and outside of moving nothing you can do. But at some point it becomes too much and as a PP said the "Indy Slasher" has struck again. The same one that has 100 points against trash teams so by the time he is done 400 plus points. But they all don't want to leave school and they all play club together if they are in the same grade. So they don't mind it and they keep showing up for club games instead of moving clubs. Best of luck to them....

The parents I am friends with are (mainly) not 2026 and not the "New Cavs" club team. So no, they do not play club together. And yes they do mind it.
Next suggestion for those parents?

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

1. transfer to PVI or one of the many private schools that are light years ahead of Indy anyhow
2. figure out a way to play for another district
3. don't play HS lacrosse and play only travel
4. take up a different sport
5. talk to school administration
6. gather a critical mass of players and say you will not play until they install a coach who does not encourage dirty play
7. you seem plugged in, I am sure you can think of plenty of options
But any family who chooses to stay on this team that encourages deliberate, dirty play is a good way to "get the other team off their game" and "win a state title" (the words of an Indy supporter) are trash, so get used to being called that if you stay on this team.

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If the AD doesn't care, which clearly he doesn't then not much will happen. They have to ask for a meeting with Principal and then LCPS Head of Athletics. While a Coach can't really control what a player does on the field, the coach can control how they handle the players actions and hold them accountable. That doesn't appear to be on the agenda either. Not sure what the parents can do and stay within that program, but I would imagine other teams not in their District just decide not to play them and risk being the next victim of attacks. Eventually someone will get seriously hurt, before something happens, which will be unfortunate for that player. But, change rarely comes until something bad happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

You have to go over the AD's head- get the school board rep involved.

Bingo! I'm not a fan of the Loudoun lefties on the school board, but sicking them on DW would put them to good use.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

if the "good people" who stand by and watch this happen don't like being called trash, would they be ok with enabler?

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Anonymous wrote:If the AD doesn't care, which clearly he doesn't then not much will happen. They have to ask for a meeting with Principal and then LCPS Head of Athletics. While a Coach can't really control what a player does on the field, the coach can control how they handle the players actions and hold them accountable. That doesn't appear to be on the agenda either. Not sure what the parents can do and stay within that program, but I would imagine other teams not in their District just decide not to play them and risk being the next victim of attacks. Eventually someone will get seriously hurt, before something happens, which will be unfortunate for that player. But, change rarely comes until something bad happens.

Unfortunately you are right. If that player got seriously hurt at the end of the game (very lucky he wasn’t seeing as it was a cross check to the side of the head) then it would be completely different. The lack of action post illegal hits is the most concerning. Where are the adults? You don’t need an admin degree to know that hit warranted a suspension. Maybe he will be I don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

1. transfer to PVI or one of the many private schools that are light years ahead of Indy anyhow
2. figure out a way to play for another district
3. don't play HS lacrosse and play only travel
4. take up a different sport
5. talk to school administration
6. gather a critical mass of players and say you will not play until they install a coach who does not encourage dirty play
7. you seem plugged in, I am sure you can think of plenty of options
But any family who chooses to stay on this team that encourages deliberate, dirty play is a good way to "get the other team off their game" and "win a state title" (the words of an Indy supporter) are trash, so get used to being called that if you stay on this team.

To answer number one: I do not think you can still claim PVI is light years ahead of Indy. The lost to Episcopal Indy is likely better than PVI over the next two seasons. PVI does not even have a JV team.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

1. transfer to PVI or one of the many private schools that are light years ahead of Indy anyhow
2. figure out a way to play for another district
3. don't play HS lacrosse and play only travel
4. take up a different sport
5. talk to school administration
6. gather a critical mass of players and say you will not play until they install a coach who does not encourage dirty play
7. you seem plugged in, I am sure you can think of plenty of options
But any family who chooses to stay on this team that encourages deliberate, dirty play is a good way to "get the other team off their game" and "win a state title" (the words of an Indy supporter) are trash, so get used to being called that if you stay on this team.

To answer number one: I do not think you can still claim PVI is light years ahead of Indy. The lost to Episcopal Indy is likely better than PVI over the next two seasons. PVI does not even have a JV team.

Look I am at FCPS and dont really care about all this but find it an amusing situation. But the advice above is laughable and what I see you saying:

1&2 - Dont like the coach? Go spend 20K a year to go to private or move spend 100'sK and uproot your family
(must be nice to have that kind of money in Loudon)
3&4 - Dont like the coach? Tell your kid he cant play lax for his HS and or just go pick up a different spring sport when you are already in school- good way to make varsity (Father of the year is on the way)
5&6- take the populist approach and go against the coach and sounds like the AD too. (I bet that will work out for you!)
7 - I got nothing else so I am gonna call you trash.

Loudon lacrosse is a joke, come play 6a and we will show you what physical play is!

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If you don't like any of the options, then stay where you are and be lumped together with the Indy Slasher anbd 43 and called trash. it's your life.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

1. transfer to PVI or one of the many private schools that are light years ahead of Indy anyhow
2. figure out a way to play for another district
3. don't play HS lacrosse and play only travel
4. take up a different sport
5. talk to school administration
6. gather a critical mass of players and say you will not play until they install a coach who does not encourage dirty play
7. you seem plugged in, I am sure you can think of plenty of options
But any family who chooses to stay on this team that encourages deliberate, dirty play is a good way to "get the other team off their game" and "win a state title" (the words of an Indy supporter) are trash, so get used to being called that if you stay on this team.

To answer number one: I do not think you can still claim PVI is light years ahead of Indy. The lost to Episcopal Indy is likely better than PVI over the next two seasons. PVI does not even have a JV team.

Get real. PVI would whoop Indy by 15+. Loudoun lacrosse is a joke.

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2 Loudoun public school kids starting on teams on championship weekend. I wouldn’t say it’s a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:I was pretty close to it. I think the Riverside coaches frustration was that no one on the Indy bench (coaches) really reacted to it at all. The video feed they are just standing with their arms crossed. I don’t see anyone going up to 43 and mediating what had just happened.

I am Riverside supporter (so I may be bias, I understand that), but our players never do anything close to that. If one of our players even make a bad penalty, which is VERY rare, coach takes him out of the game and there are consequences. Earlier in the 4th quarter (before this hit took place), #1 for Indy, received a 1 minute un-releasable penalty for hitting one of our players in the groin area, with his stick, away from the play. He was then put back in the game after his time was served. It is my belief that this is the same player that attacked a Broad Run player after the game a few weeks ago. How is this behavior acceptable by the Indy administration, coaches, and their PARENTS? Its unacceptable.

There are good kids and parents associated with Indy. The actions of a couple kids and the coach is hurting the perception of the program and it’s unfortunate.

Then why don't the good kids and parents step up, and end this stuff? Because you are correct, it makes the entire Indy community look like trash. Have a meeting, demand consequences and change, be adults. What if the Riverside player (or other players) got severely injured because of this behavior, would it still be "oh, that's just their style of play". What if the role was reversed, and it was your Indy player (son) being attacked out of the context of the game, would it be ok then?

No one liked the Detroit Pistons either but they won. Coach is playing chess and getting the other team off their game. This plan could lead to a state title

fine, but if this is a team strategy that everyone has bought into, nobody can say there are kids or parents on the team who aren't trash.

Don't be an AH. I can say that there are people that are there that are not trash. Also, I can say that there are people there that are trash. What is the recourse?
I was told that several parents have spoken to the AD about this and other things that have gone on with that team that you don't even know about as I have not seen it mentioned yet. The parents (some of them are good people and not trash) are more than frustrated. They want the coach disciplined and preferably gone.

Instead of throwing accusations about people you don't even know, how about offering some solutions. What do you suggest they do? I offered a sympathetic ear, but I don't know what else they can do.
I can tell you they are embarrassed about this and more as I have spoken to them first hand via our club team. I was told they spoke to the AD and it seemed to be a dead end.
Beyond picking up their family and moving to a new school district or denying their son a chance to play- what do you have to suggest?

1. transfer to PVI or one of the many private schools that are light years ahead of Indy anyhow
2. figure out a way to play for another district
3. don't play HS lacrosse and play only travel
4. take up a different sport
5. talk to school administration
6. gather a critical mass of players and say you will not play until they install a coach who does not encourage dirty play
7. you seem plugged in, I am sure you can think of plenty of options
But any family who chooses to stay on this team that encourages deliberate, dirty play is a good way to "get the other team off their game" and "win a state title" (the words of an Indy supporter) are trash, so get used to being called that if you stay on this team.

To answer number one: I do not think you can still claim PVI is light years ahead of Indy. The lost to Episcopal Indy is likely better than PVI over the next two seasons. PVI does not even have a JV team.

Get real. PVI would whoop Indy by 15+. Loudoun lacrosse is a joke.

PVI would get beat by Riverside and Indy this year.