Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Very helpful, makes perfect sense!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the big question now is the possibility of other accomplices. But what I can't make sense of is why only one would leave in the porche. How did the others get there and leave? Why would one take the porche (risky move) to get away unless there was no getaway car. No getaway car - then they are all in the porche. Get away car then they are all in the getaway car.

So unless there was some kind of incriminating evidence in the porche that had to be destroyed (unlikely) or unless there was no getaway car and the porche driver dropped the others off at the metro and then set fire to the proche to destroy any dna (also unlikely because too risky to drop off at metro without being seen or remembered).

The other option is one of the killers just wanted to drive a porche and figured this was his chance?

Or there were no accomplices and no getaway car and one person somehow created such terror and destruction? does the suspect own a car?

the cab makes me think he doesn't have a car. Also needing friends to drive him. If he had a car (or his accomplices had a car), he wouldn't have needed the speedy getaway in the porche. Could he have done this alone. Jesus, how?

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Anonymous wrote:That car really costs $700,000?
I think the family should offer to pay for the deceased housekeepers funeral so her family doesn't have to beg for money on GoFundMe.

I am going to donate. however, I thought the same thing.

Is there a link to the GoFund site so people can find it and donate to the housekeeper's funeral expenses? I would donate.

Yes, would someone provide a link? I'd like to donate too.

Here is the link.

http://www.gofundme.com/uwer3ug

Thank you!

Thank you! It is very nice of SS Housekeeper Nelly set this up for her Vera's family

+10000. I think it is wonderful as well. I am amazed they have not been able to reach their goal! In my town in TN, it would have been reached five days ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Very helpful, makes perfect sense!!!

+10000

[Anonymous]

So according this this article the 2 employees got the 40k from the bank. Employee #1 went in and got the cash from the manager. Employee#1 walked out of the bank with the cash and took 40k from their pockets and gave to employee #2 who then put the money in a red bag. Employee #2 with the money in the red bag drove to SS house and gave the money to the assistant, the assistant took the money out of the bag (and took a picture at some point of the money in the red bag) and put the money in a manila envelope and placed it in the car.

This story story stinks? Why so many people involved in this? and if employee 2 was at the house already with the money then why would the assistant need to put the money in car?

The assistant was told to meet two other employees, who were to extract $40,000 cash from a Bank of America account.
The first employee went inside the branch, received four bundles of cash from a bank manager, and put them in their pockets. Outside, a second employee received the four bundles and placed them in a red striped bag. This employee then drove to Mr Savopoulos' home on Embassy Row to meet the assistant, who placed the four bundles in a manila envelope and put it inside an unlocked red car in the garage.


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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

I don't know. he has no incentive to talk. It is the only time in my life I have ever wished there was a death penalty. Not because I have anything vested in the state killing him on my behalf (I'm not a revenge-y person; what is done is done), but because it could be an incentive to talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

Myabe but he's going to be in jail anyway, why tell on them and be stuck in jail with ex-friends now enemies. Especially if someone else murdered the family like that..I wouldn't want that guy pissed and in jail with me.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:So according this this article the 2 employees got the 40k from the bank. Employee #1 went in and got the cash from the manager. Employee#1 walked out of the bank with the cash and took 40k from their pockets and gave to employee #2 who then put the money in a red bag. Employee #2 with the money in the red bag drove to SS house and gave the money to the assistant, the assistant took the money out of the bag (and took a picture at some point of the money in the red bag) and put the money in a manila envelope and placed it in the car.

This story story stinks? Why so many people involved in this? and if employee 2 was at the house already with the money then why would the assistant need to put the money in car?

The assistant was told to meet two other employees, who were to extract $40,000 cash from a Bank of America account.
The first employee went inside the branch, received four bundles of cash from a bank manager, and put them in their pockets. Outside, a second employee received the four bundles and placed them in a red striped bag. This employee then drove to Mr Savopoulos' home on Embassy Row to meet the assistant, who placed the four bundles in a manila envelope and put it inside an unlocked red car in the garage.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3094318/Ex-convict-accused-murdering-CEO-family-DC-mansion-used-work-welder.html#ixzz3b4FodZUE
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This account is incorrect and based on what I've seen of Daily Mail coverage the past couple of days, I wouldn't waste time reading that site. The AIW employee obtained the money from the bank (we aren't sure when, but perhaps Thursday morning) and gave it to the assistant. The assistant placed the money in a car in the garage.

The charging document does not say when the money was obtained from the bank. It does say that a picture of the money was sent at 9:00 am. The bank opens at 9:00 am. Therefore, if the AIW employee was able to get the money from the bank Thursday morning, it was done before the formal opening of the bank.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

Myabe but he's going to be in jail anyway, why tell on them and be stuck in jail with ex-friends now enemies. Especially if someone else murdered the family like that..I wouldn't want that guy pissed and in jail with me.

I think they will argue it was the possibly the brother's dna and he'll walk? with no proof of either actually committing the crime, no murder weapon, etc. they both will walk. With no proof besides the crust it is going to be a hard case.. Let's hope they have way more proof than the pizza crust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

Myabe but he's going to be in jail anyway, why tell on them and be stuck in jail with ex-friends now enemies. Especially if someone else murdered the family like that..I wouldn't want that guy pissed and in jail with me.

I think they will argue it was the possibly the brother's dna and he'll walk? with no proof of either actually committing the crime, no murder weapon, etc. they both will walk. With no proof besides the crust it is going to be a hard case.. Let's hope they have way more proof than the pizza crust.

Wint being in the home (even if he didn't commit the crime) doesn't bring on any charges?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

Myabe but he's going to be in jail anyway, why tell on them and be stuck in jail with ex-friends now enemies. Especially if someone else murdered the family like that..I wouldn't want that guy pissed and in jail with me.

I think they will argue it was the possibly the brother's dna and he'll walk? with no proof of either actually committing the crime, no murder weapon, etc. they both will walk. With no proof besides the crust it is going to be a hard case.. Let's hope they have way more proof than the pizza crust.

They have the money. Someone will talk to save their a**.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So according this this article the 2 employees got the 40k from the bank. Employee #1 went in and got the cash from the manager. Employee#1 walked out of the bank with the cash and took 40k from their pockets and gave to employee #2 who then put the money in a red bag. Employee #2 with the money in the red bag drove to SS house and gave the money to the assistant, the assistant took the money out of the bag (and took a picture at some point of the money in the red bag) and put the money in a manila envelope and placed it in the car.

This story story stinks? Why so many people involved in this? and if employee 2 was at the house already with the money then why would the assistant need to put the money in car?

The assistant was told to meet two other employees, who were to extract $40,000 cash from a Bank of America account.
The first employee went inside the branch, received four bundles of cash from a bank manager, and put them in their pockets. Outside, a second employee received the four bundles and placed them in a red striped bag. This employee then drove to Mr Savopoulos' home on Embassy Row to meet the assistant, who placed the four bundles in a manila envelope and put it inside an unlocked red car in the garage.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3094318/Ex-convict-accused-murdering-CEO-family-DC-mansion-used-work-welder.html#ixzz3b4FodZUE
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

This account is incorrect and based on what I've seen of Daily Mail coverage the past couple of days, I wouldn't waste time reading that site. The AIW employee obtained the money from the bank (we aren't sure when, but perhaps Thursday morning) and gave it to the assistant. The assistant placed the money in a car in the garage.

The charging document does not say when the money was obtained from the bank. It does say that a picture of the money was sent at 9:00 am. The bank opens at 9:00 am. Therefore, if the AIW employee was able to get the money from the bank Thursday morning, it was done before the formal opening of the bank.

Charging documents does say BOA..

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2086396/pages/wint-darron-dellon-dennis-charging-papers-may-2015-p6-normal.gif

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reason for letting 4 seeming accomplices go without arrest is simple: under the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, certain "speedy trial" rights attach at the moment of arrest. There's a clock that starts, and prosecutors have a limited amount of time within which to obtain an indictment. If they don't, the charges get dismissed. No one wants anybody connected with this crime to be sprung on this basis. With Darron Wint, prosecutors had telltale DNA evidence placing him at the scene of the crime. Easy indictment. The others were clearly involved after the fact, but it may take time and more thorough analysis of evidence to place them at the scene. If they had a role in torturing and murdering this family, you don't want them convicted simply as accessories; you want them charged as principals. I'm sure that arrests will come in the next couple of weeks, and meanwhile, these folks are being watched like hawks.

Thanks for that information. I realized that I've been thinking of Wint as the ringleader but all we know is that his DNA was on the pizza. He could just be a peon and one of the others could have been the ringleader. Hope everyone gets what they deserve.

Exactly. I doubt Wint will give up anyone else invloved.

I think he will. And those involved know he will as well.

Myabe but he's going to be in jail anyway, why tell on them and be stuck in jail with ex-friends now enemies. Especially if someone else murdered the family like that..I wouldn't want that guy pissed and in jail with me.

I think they will argue it was the possibly the brother's dna and he'll walk? with no proof of either actually committing the crime, no murder weapon, etc. they both will walk. With no proof besides the crust it is going to be a hard case.. Let's hope they have way more proof than the pizza crust.

They have the money. Someone will talk to save their a**.

There is no way to prove they got that money there or found it on the street. Trust me..they are going to argue everything