Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank God it was a just a White person with access to guns! Can you imagine if it was a brown person. Holy Moly. There would have been bloodshed.

Tater Tots and poached Pears!! Also, wow...where do you train for this? Did not miss even from a rooftop?

This death has really shifted focus from bad economy and Epstein files. Kirk was very disposable person. And not a NEPO BABY!!

You can't be serious.

Yes. I am serious. We are completely anti-gun people. My religion believes in non-violence. If I was ever given a gun, I won't even know how to use it.

When our kids were little, we would ask people if they had guns at home and would not let them go for playdates. So, a non-military young person is able to handle a sniper gun, climb the roof top, kill in one shot...this is extraordinary.

Where does an average Joe learn how to load, shoot, assemble, disassemble a sniper gun? How do you learn how to climb up a rooftop and shoot from there like a sniper, if you have not been trained in it? Yes, obviously there are civilians who are near guns and don't shy away from it - but an expert level training and execution?

Anyways...two families destroyed. So sad for the victim and the killer. What a waste.

It wasn't a "sniper gun." It was a very typical hunting and sporting rifle. Tens of millions of average Joe Americans can proficiently shoot this kind of gun. Nothing here demonstrates an expert level of marksmanship.

The sniper vs hunting / sporting riffle is a red herring. The guy confessed knowing nothing about guns. You chose to focus on a point that doesn't really change the conclusion. But congratulations, you demonstrated knowledge above and beyond.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

Ah. The political-rant equivalent of the man cold.

Thank goodness you called everyone’s attention to the terrible, dark dystopia of having to live alongside people who have different opinions.

[Anonymous]

Are you freaks still claiming that a Trumper killed a Trumper?

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLLLLLL

[Anonymous]

I feel like people are trying to convince me that Tyler Robinson murdered someone he agreed with.

Am I making this up?

They voted for the same guy, both love Jesus, and probably agree on 90 percent of stuff… but the other 10 pissed him off so much he murdered him.

Got it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you freaks still claiming that a Trumper killed a Trumper?

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLLLLLL

No a Fuentes follower killed Kirk. There are like seven different factions in MAGA. Not all get along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are trying to convince me that Tyler Robinson murdered someone he agreed with.

Am I making this up?

They voted for the same guy, both love Jesus, and probably agree on 90 percent of stuff… but the other 10 pissed him off so much he murdered him.

Got it!

Well, when you're in a cult, S gets crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are trying to convince me that Tyler Robinson murdered someone he agreed with.

Am I making this up?

They voted for the same guy, both love Jesus, and probably agree on 90 percent of stuff… but the other 10 pissed him off so much he murdered him.

Got it!

Your pretext is that they agreed on everything. No agrees with anyone else on everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you freaks still claiming that a Trumper killed a Trumper?

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLLLLLL

No a Fuentes follower killed Kirk. There are like seven different factions in MAGA. Not all get along.

And not a single reputable, verified, link or citation.

🤡

[Anonymous]

Some on the right are very into cancel culture now.
[url]
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/us/politics/charlie-kirk-shooting-firings-celebration.html?[img]

In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, right-wing influencers and at least one Trump administration official have actively encouraged people to scour the internet for remarks celebrating the killing and to expose those who have posted them online.

The widespread and fast-moving campaign of naming-and-shaming has already resulted in countless lost jobs, professional suspensions and internal investigations, exacerbating the already fraught tensions over the shooting that exist online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you freaks still claiming that a Trumper killed a Trumper?

LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLLLLLLL

No a Fuentes follower killed Kirk. There are like seven different factions in MAGA. Not all get along.

And Ju$$ie Smolleț was attacked by two MAGA hat wearing white guys in Chicago at 2 am when he was walking in -29 degree weather to get a fresh, delicious Subway sandwich!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Dems, and their accomplices in the Intelligence Community, control news outlets, social media platforms, newspapers, magazines, radio, academia, Hollywood, music, and more.

They used control of these institutions to brainwash the masses to hate Trump and his supporters.

This is not an isolated incident. This is a widespread disease that has infected the minds of millions, and it was done so intentionally. This is by design.

We are dealing with people who have been literally brainwashed by everything they consume, to hate us and everything we stand for.

We are living in an Orwellian dystopia.

+1

While they chant in unison, Trump is a fascist.

While you chant in unison we will not be replaced!

Sorry- chanting is for the pu$$y hat crew.

Gotta give it to leftists, they are great chanters. They will take weeks and weeks of work off to march about, chanting various slogans.

Why, during the work week, in the middle of the day, leftists gather to engage in all manner of marching and chanting and singing.

While the evil republicans are at work supporting billionaires, democrats are supporting democracy by marching and chanting. Carrying all manner of signs and large papier mache heads of fascists.

Imagine the hours of work democrats spend paiper mache-ing fascist heads?

Stunning! And brave.

Yes, that's what people have been trying to tell you the difference is. That is exactly what the extreme left does. Why are you glorifying violence?

It's basically the difference in bullying between high school boys and girls. Both are bad but one style is more physical than the other. One style wants you to kill yourself while the other wants to kill you themselves. One style tries to exert physical control while the other tries to exert social control.

It's all toxic and it's all a circular response to each other's most extreme elements exacerbated by social media and algorithms to lock us in bubbles of groupthink while feeding us ragebait about the other.

There's nothing wrong with protest and free speech and political activism. There is something wrong with violence. BOTHSIDES are not toxic. The violent one who hates empathy is the one that's toxic.

You really can't make this stuff up.

Kirk once said, "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."

That's an awful thing to say. And even worse to add into our political discourse.

lol, physician heal thyself. Empathy is a two way street.

You're doing the same thing that the people you're arguing with are doing. Try to practice a little empathy yourself and you might realize how hard it is to accept the reality that we are all to blame.

None of what I said takes anything away from what this kid rotted by the right wing internet did or excuses anything Trump has been doing to our country.

Where did you see that the shooter was right wing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank God it was a just a White person with access to guns! Can you imagine if it was a brown person. Holy Moly. There would have been bloodshed.

Tater Tots and poached Pears!! Also, wow...where do you train for this? Did not miss even from a rooftop?

This death has really shifted focus from bad economy and Epstein files. Kirk was very disposable person. And not a NEPO BABY!!

You can't be serious.

Yes. I am serious. We are completely anti-gun people. My religion believes in non-violence. If I was ever given a gun, I won't even know how to use it.

When our kids were little, we would ask people if they had guns at home and would not let them go for playdates. So, a non-military young person is able to handle a sniper gun, climb the roof top, kill in one shot...this is extraordinary.

Where does an average Joe learn how to load, shoot, assemble, disassemble a sniper gun? How do you learn how to climb up a rooftop and shoot from there like a sniper, if you have not been trained in it? Yes, obviously there are civilians who are near guns and don't shy away from it - but an expert level training and execution?

Anyways...two families destroyed. So sad for the victim and the killer. What a waste.

It wasn't a "sniper gun." It was a very typical hunting and sporting rifle. Tens of millions of average Joe Americans can proficiently shoot this kind of gun. Nothing here demonstrates an expert level of marksmanship.

The sniper vs hunting / sporting riffle is a red herring. The guy confessed knowing nothing about guns. You chose to focus on a point that doesn't really change the conclusion. But congratulations, you demonstrated knowledge above and beyond.

The person I responded to was expressing disbelief that a person such as Tyler Robinson could have made that shot. I’m explaining why that’s not improbable.

[Anonymous]

You should all take the time to read Jeff's post about the shooter here. It is pretty good and addresses all of the 'sides'.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/2025/09/12/update091225

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Laughing at all the conservatives here who assumed the shooter was a liberal furiously looking up the term "groyper"

He grew up in a conservative family and turned leftist online and during high school.

Mainly aimless teens do.

+1

A young adult becomes a leftist after growing up in a conservative family is very likely. Many people claim that they can’t even talk to or spend time with their conservative parents and family members after becoming leftist.

And this must be the case here, right? Otherwise why bring it up?
You cannot admit that somebody can go further right than Charlie Kirk to such extent. Moving so much to the right of Charlie Kirk is not a possibility because your reality doesn't make sense anymore. Your brain tries to cope by turning the killer into a leftist. That's the only explanation that makes sense to you. It's normal to try coping that way when you don't understand.