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[Anonymous]

Things that age troll cant accept

1. Arlington is asking for players grade in school at tryouts

2. Clubs are grouping Aug/Sept players by grade in tryouts

[Anonymous]

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things that age troll cant accept

1. Arlington is asking for players grade in school at tryouts

2. Clubs are grouping Aug/Sept players by grade in tryouts

Club cant group kids by grade.
The league groups kids by age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

The college coach will know you're playing your designated age group and they'll be observing your individual quality of play.

Like being done now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

Oldest and youngest as it relates to age group (club doesn't play by grade) whether BY or SY. There is no guidance that says play with your grade, it's all 8/1 - 7/31, with guidance that playing up has pitfalls. College coaches told teams and said it on Facebook they don't care what your age group is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

The reality is college coaches don't go around looking for recruits, they are tracking a few that have reached out to them. And they said they don't care about their age group. Lines up with them recruit under BY, transfers and foreign players where the ecosystem the recruit plays are all so different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

The reality is college coaches don't go around looking for recruits, they are tracking a few that have reached out to them. And they said they don't care about their age group. Lines up with them recruit under BY, transfers and foreign players where the ecosystem the recruit plays are all so different.

Nobody wants to recruit a Sophmore playing at the Freshman level. Sorry if your delusion says otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

The reality is college coaches don't go around looking for recruits, they are tracking a few that have reached out to them. And they said they don't care about their age group. Lines up with them recruit under BY, transfers and foreign players where the ecosystem the recruit plays are all so different.

Nobody wants to recruit a Sophmore playing at the Freshman level. Sorry if your delusion says otherwise.

Part of your fallacy comes from there being a sophomore or freshman level. There isn't. There are good, ok and bad teams. Coaches can evaluate individual players in all 3 scenarios, it's what they do. Suggesting they can't and don't make you naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

The reality is college coaches don't go around looking for recruits, they are tracking a few that have reached out to them. And they said they don't care about their age group. Lines up with them recruit under BY, transfers and foreign players where the ecosystem the recruit plays are all so different.

Nobody wants to recruit a Sophmore playing at the Freshman level. Sorry if your delusion says otherwise.

No such thing as Sophmore and Freshman level in club soccer.
Show us a league that uses that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actually it is the other way around. The research shows playing as the oldest increases development while playing as the youngest increases the probability of quiting the sport. College recruitment is higher for the oldest and least for the youngest.

Ok but be realistic here - that is true within a graduation year. But let's say you are a 2028 grad and now you have to play with a team that is primarily 2029 grads. When the college coaches are looking, they are going to wonder why you were not good enough to play up with your grad year and when they are scouting 2028 grads, they will be focused on looking at teams with those kids on them. Yes, if you are a super standout, they may come watch your game, but it's less likely. I think people just have to use logic and common sense here. There is a reason that the guidance says to play with your grade.

You cant reason with age troll.

You just have to keep pounding him on the head with reality.

The reality is college coaches don't go around looking for recruits, they are tracking a few that have reached out to them. And they said they don't care about their age group. Lines up with them recruit under BY, transfers and foreign players where the ecosystem the recruit plays are all so different.

Nobody wants to recruit a Sophmore playing at the Freshman level. Sorry if your delusion says otherwise.

Part of your fallacy comes from there being a sophomore or freshman level. There isn't. There are good, ok and bad teams. Coaches can evaluate individual players in all 3 scenarios, it's what they do. Suggesting they can't and don't make you naive.

If you're arguing with a mad man, you become the real mad man

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our club is running winter scrimmages with the new age groups. So far, at least for middle and high school ages, the club seems to be asking the August/September birthday kids to play up a group if they are in the higher grade. Aug/Sep kids that are in the lower grade are playing with the "correct" age group. Not sure if this will hold for the actual team placement in fall 2026. My daughter (Aug-born playing in the higher age group) recognizes that she will have more competition for her starting position with the influx of Aug-Dec players from the birth year above her, and will have to train harder to keep her spot on the team and/or try other positions. However, this is WAY preferable to her than playing on a team with 8th graders when she starts 9th grade.

Are you in the DMV area?

Yes, in Arlington. Note that this doesn't seem like a blanket policy nor guarantee of placement in the older age group but indicates that they are taking grade into account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things that age troll cant accept

1. Arlington is asking for players grade in school at tryouts

2. Clubs are grouping Aug/Sept players by grade in tryouts

See above, it's not multiple clubs. Arlington is willing to group non ECNL levels by grade so classmates can play together. They understand that not everyone is playing the higher levels and they are accommodating in a case by case basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things that age troll cant accept

1. Arlington is asking for players grade in school at tryouts

2. Clubs are grouping Aug/Sept players by grade in tryouts

See above, it's not multiple clubs. Arlington is willing to group non ECNL levels by grade so classmates can play together. They understand that not everyone is playing the higher levels and they are accommodating in a case by case basis.

You’re assuming that grouping them together for tryouts = offers such that classmates can play together. Don’t they have to be good enough too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Things that age troll cant accept

1. Arlington is asking for players grade in school at tryouts

2. Clubs are grouping Aug/Sept players by grade in tryouts

See above, it's not multiple clubs. Arlington is willing to group non ECNL levels by grade so classmates can play together. They understand that not everyone is playing the higher levels and they are accommodating in a case by case basis.

So Arlington has coordinated with public and private schools in the area and created teams based on school grade?

When did that happen?
Are the teams designated by school grade versus U7 or U10 etc?