Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

Israel has invaded and occupied the Philadelphia corridor. This action voids the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979 and shows how weak Egypt is. Bet the US paid through the nose to keep them from defending Egyptian territory from the Israelis. Why would anyone sign a document with Israel. It is not worth the paper it is written on.

My impression is Egypt and Israel pretty much work on security stuff together, have for a long time. They are peaceful.

Egypt and Israel dropped the ball on controlling the sinai /security too focused on other interests. Hamas has tunnels into the Sinai and knows that area better than the Egyptians or Israelis do at this point in time

There are no tunnels. That is Israel propaganda. According to the IDF 90% of the weapon Hamas uses can be traced back to Israel’s black market.

OMG. Found the propagandist. How do you explain the recent discovery of SIX DEAD HOSTAGES in the Gaza tunnels? Or the one hostage recovered alive recently in a tunnel? My god, you and your lies are absolutely repulsive.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

Israel has invaded and occupied the Philadelphia corridor. This action voids the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979 and shows how weak Egypt is. Bet the US paid through the nose to keep them from defending Egyptian territory from the Israelis. Why would anyone sign a document with Israel. It is not worth the paper it is written on.

My impression is Egypt and Israel pretty much work on security stuff together, have for a long time. They are peaceful.

Egypt and Israel dropped the ball on controlling the sinai /security too focused on other interests. Hamas has tunnels into the Sinai and knows that area better than the Egyptians or Israelis do at this point in time

There are no tunnels. That is Israel propaganda. According to the IDF 90% of the weapon Hamas uses can be traced back to Israel’s black market.

OMG. Found the propagandist. How do you explain the recent discovery of SIX DEAD HOSTAGES in the Gaza tunnels? Or the one hostage recovered alive recently in a tunnel? My god, you and your lies are absolutely repulsive.
DP

So what if they have tunnels? They need tunnels to import goods that and supplies that Israel blockades. Why the hell do you think you get a say in whether or not another country builds tunnels. Unless of course you are OCCUPYING that country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

Israel has invaded and occupied the Philadelphia corridor. This action voids the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979 and shows how weak Egypt is. Bet the US paid through the nose to keep them from defending Egyptian territory from the Israelis. Why would anyone sign a document with Israel. It is not worth the paper it is written on.

My impression is Egypt and Israel pretty much work on security stuff together, have for a long time. They are peaceful.

Egypt and Israel dropped the ball on controlling the sinai /security too focused on other interests. Hamas has tunnels into the Sinai and knows that area better than the Egyptians or Israelis do at this point in time

There are no tunnels. That is Israel propaganda. According to the IDF 90% of the weapon Hamas uses can be traced back to Israel’s black market.

OMG. Found the propagandist. How do you explain the recent discovery of SIX DEAD HOSTAGES in the Gaza tunnels? Or the one hostage recovered alive recently in a tunnel? My god, you and your lies are absolutely repulsive.
DP

So what if they have tunnels? They need tunnels to import goods that and supplies that Israel blockades. Why the hell do you think you get a say in whether or not another country builds tunnels. Unless of course you are OCCUPYING that country.

The post was in response to the moron claiming “there are no tunnels.” Was that you? Your stupidity is noted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

DP

Completely anti-Hamas here, but I don't think it's that ANYONE refuses to acknowledge the claims made by Israel and parroted by those under Israel's spell - it's just that Israel and the Zionist movement is composed of such a sad sack of pathological liars that they have failed miserably - over and over again - to provide as much as an ounce of evidence of these claims, and certainly none that is taken seriously by anyone impartial. Where is the evidence of these clandestine headquarters under hospitals, schools, etc.? Why is Israel unable to provide evidence that isn't laughed out of the room by actual intelligence experts? Even with AI and video deepfakes, they still cannot produce anything that isn't below amateur hour quality.

So I don't think it's a matter of acknowledging it. We need to see evidence that matches the words. That's all. Where's the beef, especially after the billions we have sent over? Where's the beef?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

So what you are saying is, Israel needs to occupy a piece of Egypt and migrate the Gazans there?

No, I think Egypt should offer it. To the Gazans. Not to Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Can you back up this claim? ^

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

DP

Completely anti-Hamas here, but I don't think it's that ANYONE refuses to acknowledge the claims made by Israel and parroted by those under Israel's spell - it's just that Israel and the Zionist movement is composed of such a sad sack of pathological liars that they have failed miserably - over and over again - to provide as much as an ounce of evidence of these claims, and certainly none that is taken seriously by anyone impartial. Where is the evidence of these clandestine headquarters under hospitals, schools, etc.? Why is Israel unable to provide evidence that isn't laughed out of the room by actual intelligence experts? Even with AI and video deepfakes, they still cannot produce anything that isn't below amateur hour quality.

So I don't think it's a matter of acknowledging it. We need to see evidence that matches the words. That's all. Where's the beef, especially after the billions we have sent over? Where's the beef?

You can't be serious. But sure, continue to believe what a terrorist organization tells you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-israel-fighting.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

DP

Completely anti-Hamas here, but I don't think it's that ANYONE refuses to acknowledge the claims made by Israel and parroted by those under Israel's spell - it's just that Israel and the Zionist movement is composed of such a sad sack of pathological liars that they have failed miserably - over and over again - to provide as much as an ounce of evidence of these claims, and certainly none that is taken seriously by anyone impartial. Where is the evidence of these clandestine headquarters under hospitals, schools, etc.? Why is Israel unable to provide evidence that isn't laughed out of the room by actual intelligence experts? Even with AI and video deepfakes, they still cannot produce anything that isn't below amateur hour quality.

So I don't think it's a matter of acknowledging it. We need to see evidence that matches the words. That's all. Where's the beef, especially after the billions we have sent over? Where's the beef?

You can't be serious. But sure, continue to believe what a terrorist organization tells you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-israel-fighting.html

Sure, they're liars too. All of you losers who cannot find enough enrichment in your lives here in America or over there in that godforsaken land, and who instead obsess over that shitty patch of sand where you think a burning shrub or a voice from the sky proclaimed you special (Jews and Muslims alike) couldn't find the truth if it dropped on your head like a grand piano from five stories up. At this point, there is zero credibility.

Incidentally, or perhaps on brand, the articles you linked to have been followed by corrections and follow-up reporting that blew the claims sky high. Unless you have a better source that hasn't been debunked, don't waste my time further.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

DP

Completely anti-Hamas here, but I don't think it's that ANYONE refuses to acknowledge the claims made by Israel and parroted by those under Israel's spell - it's just that Israel and the Zionist movement is composed of such a sad sack of pathological liars that they have failed miserably - over and over again - to provide as much as an ounce of evidence of these claims, and certainly none that is taken seriously by anyone impartial. Where is the evidence of these clandestine headquarters under hospitals, schools, etc.? Why is Israel unable to provide evidence that isn't laughed out of the room by actual intelligence experts? Even with AI and video deepfakes, they still cannot produce anything that isn't below amateur hour quality.

So I don't think it's a matter of acknowledging it. We need to see evidence that matches the words. That's all. Where's the beef, especially after the billions we have sent over? Where's the beef?

You can't be serious. But sure, continue to believe what a terrorist organization tells you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-israel-fighting.html

More recent reporting on 4/2/2024, extracting what you must think constitutes "evidence". Spoiler alert: it constitutes nothing more than claims by a nation and its armed forces that are both known worldwide for systemic dishonesty.

The Israeli military first captured the hospital site during a raid in November, exposing and destroying a subterranean tunnel network that Israel said was a Hamas command center.

Israel claiming that something was a "Hamas command center" is not evidence of anything other than a claim. In fact, Israel has repeatedly exploited the fact that those following along are easily confused - because Hamas was the civilian authority paying government employees, like physicians and staff at hospitals, those recurring paychecks provide "proof" that these individuals are members of Hamas. That their gathering at the hospital to, you know, do their jobs made it a Hamas command center. Is that how you see it? That those individuals doing civilian public health jobs are members of Hamas because Hamas is the only entity that is positioned to pay government employees?

To support its claim of Hamas’s presence at the hospital, the Israeli military displayed digital copies of documents, branded with the logo of Hamas’s military wing, that it said were found at the site and which purported to document a meeting of the group’s militants inside the hospital. The Times could not verify the authenticity of the documents.

Again, that's not within the universe of actual evidence. And that's before we factor in Israel's dishonesty track record. It's actually embarrassing that there are individual like you out there, presumably with opposable thumbs, who think that what we both just read isn't an indictment of the entire Israeli position in this conflict. Digital copies of documents with a logo?! Not that!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

There is no hope
Israelis are leaving their kids a terrible legacy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

Israel has invaded and occupied the Philadelphia corridor. This action voids the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979 and shows how weak Egypt is. Bet the US paid through the nose to keep them from defending Egyptian territory from the Israelis. Why would anyone sign a document with Israel. It is not worth the paper it is written on.

My impression is Egypt and Israel pretty much work on security stuff together, have for a long time. They are peaceful.

Egypt and Israel dropped the ball on controlling the sinai /security too focused on other interests. Hamas has tunnels into the Sinai and knows that area better than the Egyptians or Israelis do at this point in time

There are no tunnels. That is Israel propaganda. According to the IDF 90% of the weapon Hamas uses can be traced back to Israel’s black market.

OMG. Found the propagandist. How do you explain the recent discovery of SIX DEAD HOSTAGES in the Gaza tunnels? Or the one hostage recovered alive recently in a tunnel? My god, you and your lies are absolutely repulsive.
DP

So what if they have tunnels? They need tunnels to import goods that and supplies that Israel blockades. Why the hell do you think you get a say in whether or not another country builds tunnels. Unless of course you are OCCUPYING that country.

My god is the well poisoned or are people just idiots?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:4,000 embryos destroyed as Israel bombed a fertility clinic in Gaza

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/4000-ivf-embryos-destroyed-1-shelling-gazas-largest/story?id=109350404

"Najwa came to our center in 2022. She had lost her 19-year-old son Khalil in a bombing near their home in Jabalia refugee camp. He was her only child and born after many failed IVF attempts," said Dr. Ghalayini. "She was devastated. We did two operations free of charge for her, we froze her embryos.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/war-halts-ivf-treatment-in-gaza-as-parents-mourn-miracle-children

It took surgery and five years of IVF treatment for Amal to fall pregnant for the first and only time. That struggle against infertility lasted almost as long as her son Khaled’s short life. He was just seven years old when on 17 October an Israeli airstrike on Rafah, one of the first of the war, hit the family home.

Khaled was killed and Amal was plunged into a grief heightened by memories of her long battle to become a mother. Sometimes she struggles to keep going. “Death, in all its finality, seems less daunting than the relentless pain of living without Khaled,” she said. “He was the most precious thing in my life.”

So people were starved and desperate due to Israeli control in Gaza, but there are modern IVF clinics and infertility treatments?

Because Palestinians are some of the most educated people in the world. Like the Jews, they know how to survive against the harshest conditions.

Yes, there are more Gazan doctors and nurses per square mile in Gaza even though Israel keeps kidnapping or killing them.

Israel doesn’t kill losers like terrorists that often. They kill professionals first (doctors, pharmacists, journalists). Those are usually their prime kills

Could that possibly be because Hamas terrorists intentionally hide themselves underneath doctors in hospitals, which is a freaking war crime?

+100
It’s funny how the pro-Hamas nutters will never acknowledge this.

DP

Completely anti-Hamas here, but I don't think it's that ANYONE refuses to acknowledge the claims made by Israel and parroted by those under Israel's spell - it's just that Israel and the Zionist movement is composed of such a sad sack of pathological liars that they have failed miserably - over and over again - to provide as much as an ounce of evidence of these claims, and certainly none that is taken seriously by anyone impartial. Where is the evidence of these clandestine headquarters under hospitals, schools, etc.? Why is Israel unable to provide evidence that isn't laughed out of the room by actual intelligence experts? Even with AI and video deepfakes, they still cannot produce anything that isn't below amateur hour quality.

So I don't think it's a matter of acknowledging it. We need to see evidence that matches the words. That's all. Where's the beef, especially after the billions we have sent over? Where's the beef?

You can't be serious. But sure, continue to believe what a terrorist organization tells you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/world/middleeast/hamas-gaza-israel-fighting.html

Sure, they're liars too. All of you losers who cannot find enough enrichment in your lives here in America or over there in that godforsaken land, and who instead obsess over that shitty patch of sand where you think a burning shrub or a voice from the sky proclaimed you special (Jews and Muslims alike) couldn't find the truth if it dropped on your head like a grand piano from five stories up. At this point, there is zero credibility.

Incidentally, or perhaps on brand, the articles you linked to have been followed by corrections and follow-up reporting that blew the claims sky high. Unless you have a better source that hasn't been debunked, don't waste my time further.

Wow, you have issues. Post the "corrections and follow-up reporting" - from the same source (NYT). Otherwise, don't waste our time further.

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Anonymous wrote:Egypt for the most part usually was very hard on Hamas and saw them and the Muslim Brotherhood as their number 1 threat but lately since 2019, much like Israel neglected Hamas to focus on Iran they’ve neglected Hamas to shift their attention to Ethiopia for some reason because they’re upset about the Nile River dam Ethiopia built.

They need to give Gazans a patch of land on the other side of Gaza in Egypt, and make the Egypt-adjacent part of Gaza a heavily fortified no man's land between Egypt and Israel I guess. And then Israel can reclaim the top part for farming.

Israel has invaded and occupied the Philadelphia corridor. This action voids the Egypt–Israel peace treaty of 1979 and shows how weak Egypt is. Bet the US paid through the nose to keep them from defending Egyptian territory from the Israelis. Why would anyone sign a document with Israel. It is not worth the paper it is written on.

My impression is Egypt and Israel pretty much work on security stuff together, have for a long time. They are peaceful.

Egypt and Israel dropped the ball on controlling the sinai /security too focused on other interests. Hamas has tunnels into the Sinai and knows that area better than the Egyptians or Israelis do at this point in time

There are no tunnels. That is Israel propaganda. According to the IDF 90% of the weapon Hamas uses can be traced back to Israel’s black market.

OMG. Found the propagandist. How do you explain the recent discovery of SIX DEAD HOSTAGES in the Gaza tunnels? Or the one hostage recovered alive recently in a tunnel? My god, you and your lies are absolutely repulsive.
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So what if they have tunnels? They need tunnels to import goods that and supplies that Israel blockades. Why the hell do you think you get a say in whether or not another country builds tunnels. Unless of course you are OCCUPYING that country.

My god is the well poisoned or are people just idiots?

DP

It's not a terrible point, actually.

Israel confines these people in concentration camps, imposing what is intended to be an airtight land, sea and air blockade. There's no credible dispute that those are the facts. if you dispute those facts, the conversation is over because you're unwilling to face the reality of what's been occurring there for decades now. They are confined to that area, and cannot leave without Israeli authorization - which is MAYBE attainable after jumping through 10,000 hoops.

Now, you act indignant when they fight back, or build tunnels to smuggle items that are blocked by Israel? Have you seen the list of items blocked by Israel?

If you spend any time actually examining the lives of misery that have been forced upon these people, I think it explains a lot.

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I hope some of you watched the National Vigil for the Hostages tonight at Adas Israel. It was heart wrenching.