FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).

I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.

“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣

. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.

I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.

This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?

You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.

You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.

It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.

Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.

DP. Again, sounds like a you problem. The PP is correct. It's only people *other* than Langley posters who speak in such a vile way. It's like the posters who refer to low-income people as "the poors." No one else talks about them like that.

Langley posters were clearly casting aspersions just tonight on the statement that Herndon is a “very viable” school.

Boundary change proponents stated this:

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

How do I bold the last part of that sentence to emphasize the blatant racism openly stated by the boundary change proponents?

You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.

My sincerest apologies, I thought you or one of your comrades wrote “poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids” I must have read that verbatim, exact quote from an equity pusher incorrectly.

Wait, that’s a verbatim quote. What am I missing?

Let’s just put it this way: you’re the Scarecrow of the thread.

So the boundary advocates weren’t calling Herndon High kids those things? You ladies are racist hypocrites. The evidence is right there.

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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).

I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.

“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣

. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.

I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.

This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?

You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.

You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.

It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.

Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.

Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.

I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
DP

Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.

DP. I’ve only heard one set of posters use the terms “brown” “poor” and “unruly” to describe Herndon kids, and it isn’t the Langley posters. The equity movement has jumped the shark.

It fits a pattern. I grew up learning that we shouldn’t discriminate against people based on skin color- and I strongly believe in that principle. Now, we’re accused of being racist for not explicitly focusing on race. It’s the equity-minded posters that ALWAYS bring up race.

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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).

I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.

“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣

. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.

I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.

This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?

You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.

You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.

It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.

Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.

Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.

I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
DP

Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.

DP. I’ve only heard one set of posters use the terms “brown” “poor” and “unruly” to describe Herndon kids, and it isn’t the Langley posters. The equity movement has jumped the shark.

It fits a pattern. I grew up learning that we shouldn’t discriminate against people based on skin color- and I strongly believe in that principle. Now, we’re accused of being racist for not explicitly focusing on race. It’s the equity-minded posters that ALWAYS bring up race.

Yet here you are "bringing it up" need a mirror?

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Obviously, the level of wealth in the Langley pyramid is off the charts compared to every other pyramid, and some apparently are terrified by the prospect FCPS might reduce the gap even a little (although it's not clear anyone from FCPS has even said that's a goal).

I live in a pyramid that is middle of the road on your list. Please explain what it is going to help by taking kids out of Langley? Who is it going to help?

I can tell you--as from a neighborhood zoned to way down the chart from Langley--that most people want to stay in their current school. I learned this a long time ago at a ms boundary meeting--no matter what school a family is in, they want to stay there--even if the school is not highly rated. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand that if you are being bussed 12 miles to a school when another very viable school is 3 miles away that should be addressed.

“Very viable” is doing some pretty heavy lifting in that statement. 🤣🤣🤣

. Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.

I know a lot of Langley families, and I’ve never ever heard them speak the way that you do about Herndon families. Don’t be racist, ladies.

This. Just because someone does not want to leave a school they like, does not make them racist.

Why are you so anxious to have them move? Are you not happy with your school? Do you think there are problems there that would be solved by adding Langley kids to the mix?

You can oppose or feel sad about a potential boundary change without insulting the viability of another school. Or maybe you can't.

You can argue for boundary changes without calling the Herndon kids racial slurs. Jesus, it’s not that hard. I’ve never seen a Langley poster say that once, but I’ve read dozens of posts where the boundary change advocates call those Herndon kids all sorts of names.

It was a boundary change opponent who just implied earlier tonight Herndon isn’t a viable school. Nice try to flip the script, though.

Is this verbatim quote you or your comrade?

“Dear Lord, one would think Langley is full of perfectly behaved genius kids who would just suffer tremendously if they had to share a space with those poor, brown, unruly Herndon kids.”

Not my post but that poster is capturing how Langley posters appear to view Herndon kids.

Disagree. I think it is how Herndon posters view Langley parents. They are offended because Langley parents want their kids to stay at Langley. Funny how that works. They like where they are, so they must be racist.

I listened to the sessions that FairFACTS Matters and then the Great Falls Citizens Association had with Robyn Lady earlier this year. The references to Herndon from Langley-zoned parents were quite disparaging.

Quote their exact words - with citations. Otherwise, you're a liar.
DP

Not my job to find out if either session is archived. Feel free to go check on your own. I stand by my observation.

DP. I’ve only heard one set of posters use the terms “brown” “poor” and “unruly” to describe Herndon kids, and it isn’t the Langley posters. The equity movement has jumped the shark.

It fits a pattern. I grew up learning that we shouldn’t discriminate against people based on skin color- and I strongly believe in that principle. Now, we’re accused of being racist for not explicitly focusing on race. It’s the equity-minded posters that ALWAYS bring up race.

Yet here you are "bringing it up" need a mirror?

It’s just a really bizarre turn that the people trying to break up Langley are the ones uttering racist screeds about the students at the lower SES schools.

Seems like you all are trying to bait us, but it’s not working because Langley families aren’t racist despite your strong desire to have us be so you can use it against us.

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Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

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Anonymous wrote:Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

At what point in our country did the extreme left start calling people brown with reckless abandon?

When did we give up MLK’s dream? It seems to coincide with the extreme left’s push for equity?

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

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Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

Then why does this matter to you?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

At what point in our country did the extreme left start calling people brown with reckless abandon?

When did we give up MLK’s dream? It seems to coincide with the extreme left’s push for equity?

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

At what point did Langley parents start claiming Herndon was not a “viable” school? And what were their reasons for doing so?

Those are probably more relevant questions for purposes of this thread than ascertaining the extent to which Hispanics or others feel comfortable using the adjective “brown” to describe themselves.

And there really ought to be a moratorium on Langley parents invoking MLK. Dr. King organized the “Poor People’s Campaign” in 1967; Langley parents organize in 2024 to maintain economic segregation in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

At what point in our country did the extreme left start calling people brown with reckless abandon?

When did we give up MLK’s dream? It seems to coincide with the extreme left’s push for equity?

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

At what point did Langley parents start claiming Herndon was not a “viable” school? And what were their reasons for doing so?

Those are probably more relevant questions for purposes of this thread than ascertaining the extent to which Hispanics or others feel comfortable using the adjective “brown” to describe themselves.

And there really ought to be a moratorium on Langley parents invoking MLK. Dr. King organized the “Poor People’s Campaign” in 1967; Langley parents organize in 2024 to maintain economic segregation in FCPS.

There you go again, making up motives for your neighbors in order to fit your misguided venture.

It’s a shame that you are solely focused on skin color. You really are fringe even in a blue county.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is that some Langley families, in the western fringes of the boundary zone are so against moving to Herndon?

1. Low test scores? Why are the test scores so low at Herndon? Because of the high number of FARMS students. What race are the majority of FARMS students in Fairfax? Brown, Latino. In the minds of many: Brown, non-South Asian = Low test scores. As far as I know, low test scores are not contagious. Plus, your kid can be a stand out on this campus, and won’t have to compete against the uber-score-obsessed students, who can end up having mental health issues.

2. Breaking up of community. This re-zoning would affect a small percentage of families that already live very far away from the majority of Langley homes. Where do these families do their grocery shopping? Probably at Giant in North Reston, or even the one on Dranesville, in Sterling. Who do they run into there? Herndon and South Lakes families, most likely. I bet if these families were granted full scholarships for their kids to a well-regarded private school, they would jump ship in a second, and not give a hoot about community.

3. Home value: Sure, your home value might go down, but don’t we all gamble when we buy a house? Are we always guaranteed the price will go up? A natural disaster could also affect the price, or a discovery of WW1 weapons buried underneath.

Signed, a URM parent of a successful Herndon Hornet

At what point in our country did the extreme left start calling people brown with reckless abandon?

When did we give up MLK’s dream? It seems to coincide with the extreme left’s push for equity?

“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

At what point did Langley parents start claiming Herndon was not a “viable” school? And what were their reasons for doing so?

Those are probably more relevant questions for purposes of this thread than ascertaining the extent to which Hispanics or others feel comfortable using the adjective “brown” to describe themselves.

And there really ought to be a moratorium on Langley parents invoking MLK. Dr. King organized the “Poor People’s Campaign” in 1967; Langley parents organize in 2024 to maintain economic segregation in FCPS.

There you go again, making up motives for your neighbors in order to fit your misguided venture.

It’s a shame that you are solely focused on skin color. You really are fringe even in a blue county.

Swing and a miss.

[Anonymous]

Reid and the school board are succeeding in their goal of turning parents against one another versus the boundary change effort itself.

They are not good at much, but experts in obfuscation and slight of hand.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid and the school board are succeeding in their goal of turning parents against one another versus the boundary change effort itself.

They are not good at much, but experts in obfuscation and sleight of hand.

Are Reid and the School Board making y’all come on here and act like jacka$$es? Because I kinda think y’all are just like this and you’re trying to blame others for your own actions.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid and the school board are succeeding in their goal of turning parents against one another versus the boundary change effort itself.

They are not good at much, but experts in obfuscation and slight of hand.

This is what happens. Been through this between similar demographic communities. Pits neighborhood against neighborhood. People want to stay where they are--Once again, Chantilly kids were moved to Oakton a few years ago, and people are still bitter. And, Oakton is considered a "better" school.

Herndon mom wants to make this about demographics. It's not. It's about not wanting to go through a change like this.

The Board of Supervisors better start paying attention. People will hesitate to purchase houses in Fairfax County with this uncertainty.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid and the school board are succeeding in their goal of turning parents against one another versus the boundary change effort itself.

They are not good at much, but experts in obfuscation and slight of hand.

This is what happens. Been through this between similar demographic communities. Pits neighborhood against neighborhood. People want to stay where they are--Once again, Chantilly kids were moved to Oakton a few years ago, and people are still bitter. And, Oakton is considered a "better" school.

Herndon mom wants to make this about demographics. It's not. It's about not wanting to go through a change like this.

The Board of Supervisors better start paying attention. People will hesitate to purchase houses in Fairfax County with this uncertainty.

The Chantilly kids were much closer to Chantilly than Oakton. Any Langley kids moved to Herndon will live much closer to Herndon than Langley.

If you don't want more boundary changes, tell the BOS you'd be fine with a tax hike to service the debt so FCPS can expand more schools and do so more quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid and the school board are succeeding in their goal of turning parents against one another versus the boundary change effort itself.

They are not good at much, but experts in obfuscation and slight of hand.

This is what happens. Been through this between similar demographic communities. Pits neighborhood against neighborhood. People want to stay where they are--Once again, Chantilly kids were moved to Oakton a few years ago, and people are still bitter. And, Oakton is considered a "better" school.

Herndon mom wants to make this about demographics. It's not. It's about not wanting to go through a change like this.

The Board of Supervisors better start paying attention. People will hesitate to purchase houses in Fairfax County with this uncertainty.

Too fragile to deal with change is the rationale now.