Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Well, if you don't if will be easy to find elsewhere....

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I found the assistants page with his pictures..Not sure about posting it?

Don't. He probably has enough problems already.

I'm not going to post it. I will tell you there is really nothing interesting. Just a young man that likes cars really.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we thought he messed up by not locking the car then way make up a story saying they went to the bank of america and met with the manager when they did not. The other witness told police they did not, I'm sure bank manager and cameras confirmed this too. The other witness proved he was lying by showing the police his texts. The place where he got fired from is not some no name place and if the rumor mill is correct around where he lives then he had a high position and was in the media quite often.

This is a perfect example of one of the two of us reading the charging document wrong. By my reading, he went to the bank in either scenario. The question was whether the money was provided to the other employee in a manilla envelope or a red bag. The assistant originally said he saw the bank manager hand the employee a manilla envelope. Then he admitted that the employee had taken the money from his pockets and placed it in a red bag that the assistant had. But, in both cases, the transfer of the money appears to have taken place at the bank. They employee says the money was withdrawn from the bank, not from under a table as has been alleged earlier in this thread.

I don't read it that way. I read it that the money at some point came from the Bank of America but not that day. You cannot withdraw more than $10,000 in cash at a time and someone walking in and withdrawing $40,000 would absolutely raise concerns with the bank. You can't just do that. I assumed that story tipped off police that the assistant. Not to mention that the fire was big news and if someone had managed to withdraw $40,000 and managed not to spark inquiries in the process -- both things highly highly unlikely -- the bank would have immediately called authorities. They absolutely would have reported something this strange, the police would not have learned about it from the assistant. It just didn't happen. The money was already on hand.

I do not believe the assistant is implicated in the crime but his role is very significant because it reveals odd financial dealings that themselves may be related to the crime.

You may be correct, but let's be clear that this is entirely supposition on your part. The charging document is very specific about certain lies told by the assistant (actually using the word "lied") but does not mention being misled about the source of the funds. So either that lie was not explicitly documented or it wasn't a lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to follow the money....I want to know where the money is coming from. Job? Inhertitance? Or some place else? Maybe unrelated...
Anyone know what the job is in Puerto Rico? Did the family plan to move?( Still considered part of the U.S. the US guarantees Puerto Rican Bonds... I have not been but assume the dollar accepted there too, and not a tax haven? Or is it?
Was the family being threatened?
Anyone want to answer?

I have no idea what the link between SS and PR is, but I do know that in recent years, PR has become a significant tax haven - especially for ultra high net worth US citizens. http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensler/2015/02/11/puerto-rico-new-age-tax-haven/

[Anonymous]

I can not see a real connection between new loser assistant and this monster, unless monster looking at speed racers Facebook page.
Multiple criminals based on vest count in garage.
Motive? I would like to know if assistant drove Bentley to AIW, or red race car? That alone could piss off certain nut cases at the job site. Frankly, that alone would be enough to make lots of people make a comment. Car guy? Jay Leno is a car guy.

Arrogance and idiocy come to mind ...and we already have established perpetrator has that ,in spades. We also have established perp is violent and menace to even his own family. Restraining orders....I can see reason of insanity plea...running around with a machete, ranting, threatening baby half sister...not well...difficult childhood, immigrated...abuse...pizza has him there...he does not remember being there....
boss man fired his brother...boss man lives too well...drives too nice a car.... Let's steal it and while we are at it... Right? Or is the motive something more sinister?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can not see a real connection between new loser assistant and this monster, unless monster looking at speed racers Facebook page.
Multiple criminals based on vest count in garage.
Motive? I would like to know if assistant drove Bentley to AIW, or red race car? That alone could piss off certain nut cases at the job site. Frankly, that alone would be enough to make lots of people make a comment. Car guy? Jay Leno is a car guy.

Arrogance and idiocy come to mind ...and we already have established perpetrator has that ,in spades. We also have established perp is violent and menace to even his own family. Restraining orders....I can see reason of insanity plea...running around with a machete, ranting, threatening baby half sister...not well...difficult childhood, immigrated...abuse...pizza has him there...he does not remember being there....
boss man fired his brother...boss man lives too well...drives too nice a car.... Let's steal it and while we are at it... Right? Or is the motive something more sinister?

I think this is the situation, pretty much. There is huge disdain for the rich. Add the other "life situations" for this guy, and it leads to disaster.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we thought he messed up by not locking the car then way make up a story saying they went to the bank of america and met with the manager when they did not. The other witness told police they did not, I'm sure bank manager and cameras confirmed this too. The other witness proved he was lying by showing the police his texts. The place where he got fired from is not some no name place and if the rumor mill is correct around where he lives then he had a high position and was in the media quite often.

This is a perfect example of one of the two of us reading the charging document wrong. By my reading, he went to the bank in either scenario. The question was whether the money was provided to the other employee in a manilla envelope or a red bag. The assistant originally said he saw the bank manager hand the employee a manilla envelope. Then he admitted that the employee had taken the money from his pockets and placed it in a red bag that the assistant had. But, in both cases, the transfer of the money appears to have taken place at the bank. They employee says the money was withdrawn from the bank, not from under a table as has been alleged earlier in this thread.

I don't read it that way. I read it that the money at some point came from the Bank of America but not that day. You cannot withdraw more than $10,000 in cash at a time and someone walking in and withdrawing $40,000 would absolutely raise concerns with the bank. You can't just do that. I assumed that story tipped off police that the assistant. Not to mention that the fire was big news and if someone had managed to withdraw $40,000 and managed not to spark inquiries in the process -- both things highly highly unlikely -- the bank would have immediately called authorities. They absolutely would have reported something this strange, the police would not have learned about it from the assistant. It just didn't happen. The money was already on hand.

I do not believe the assistant is implicated in the crime but his role is very significant because it reveals odd financial dealings that themselves may be related to the crime.

You may be correct, but let's be clear that this is entirely supposition on your part. The charging document is very specific about certain lies told by the assistant (actually using the word "lied") but does not mention being misled about the source of the funds. So either that lie was not explicitly documented or it wasn't a lie.

I agree but its very vague. Why is this information even included? They are interviewing hundreds of witnesses. There were others involved in pulling together the money and others who were near the house that day or had communication with the house. So why include this, the part about the assistant lying? It really isn't necessary to support a witnesses credibility in a charging document. If its relevant to simply mention the drop-off they don't need the false story in this particular document. So why is it there? I don't know but I am sure its there for a reason. Something about that money is relevant and I believe its the money, not the assistant, that matters. The fact that the assistant lied, to me, reflects something about that money, not necessarily about him or his role. if AIW was a retailer, or some other business that needed to have cash on hand, such as in cash registers, I can understand the withdrawal of large sums of money not being unusual. But for this business it seems very odd.

I have a lot of respect for both law enforcement and the prosecutors in this case. They seem to be working methodically and carefully, they know what they are doing. There is some reason why they released those other people, and some reason why they included this information in the charging documents. We just don;t know those reasons.

[Anonymous]

Maybe because perpetrator had knowledge of large cash transactions at AIW...his brother worked there, he worked there. No doubt others he knew worked there and for all we know a certain amount of "skimming" may have been taking place.... thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Autobahn Indoor Speedway, Jessup, Maryland. Numerous investors based in Tampa and this area. General Manager from a 2013 article had the same name as an Engineer who lived in Annapolis. Assistant lived in Annapolis with his mother. I dont know if the Annapolis rumors mean anything. Let's focus on Wint's brother? What is his name? Assistant is still suspect, but..enough. Brother anyone? Also, someone said SS had a condo in St Croix. Where did Puerto Rico come from? But yes, many wealthy people in this area have 2nd places in PR. Just catch all accomplices involved in this heinous crime! Those before, during, after.

[Anonymous]

Thank you all for caring! Such smart people! God bless.

[Anonymous]

Several News sources said he had accepted job in Puerto Rico .

[Anonymous]

22:28 are you a family member?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Autobahn Indoor Speedway, Jessup, Maryland. Numerous investors based in Tampa and this area. General Manager from a 2013 article had the same name as an Engineer who lived in Annapolis. Assistant lived in Annapolis with his mother. I dont know if the Annapolis rumors mean anything. Let's focus on Wint's brother? What is his name? Assistant is still suspect, but..enough. Brother anyone? Also, someone said SS had a condo in St Croix. Where did Puerto Rico come from? But yes, many wealthy people in this area have 2nd places in PR. Just catch all accomplices involved in this heinous crime! Those before, during, after.

Would you consider posting a link to the article?

One brother is Durward Lamont Wint, referenced here: http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Police/News/NA_details.asp?NaID=834

Another brother is Steffon Wint: DCK (disgusting creepy killer) used this name as an alias during a prior arrest.

[Anonymous]

Secondary residence doesn't count...must be primary. 'Course lots of people lie....

[Anonymous]

I don't think the assistant should be called a "loser" here. That is pretty harsh considering as far as we know he just panicked and said something stupid under stress. Come on. There's probably a lot more going on here and this assistant is just caught in the middle. At least it seems that way to me.
And god please don't post his picture--it's enough already.