Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re the assistant:

- it's mentioned in the charging docs because if the police failed to disclose the discrepancy a competent attorney would eat the admissibility of the witness statements to shreds. It's in there to make sure that the warrants validity holds.

- the premise that the assistant kept some of the money is silly. Had SS lived he would have been immediately discovered.

- I also don't believe that someone involved in the murder would be so foolish as to text photos of evidence to friends, lie to the police and then admit the lies.

My take:

- Dude worked at some no name go kart racing field. Meets exceptionally successful CEO, befriends him, earns a job driving bentleys and Porsches around town. Picks up ridiculous amounts of cash and probably routinely witnesses business deals, checks, jewelry, dinners, parties etc all far far above any he's ever seen before. He's enamored: he's living the high life.

- Guy gets $40k, delivers it. Maybe he thinks its off, maybe he doesn't. The Instagram / texting of it is just more of his
flaunting it because "holy shit, check out how baller my boss is. Dude gets $40k like its pocket change."

- Lies about minor details: my guess is he thought maybe he was in trouble for bringing cash around or maybe because he thought he fucked up by not locking the car.

- his deleting his fb and shit seems totally normal. the murder made the front page of CNN. It's national news. Half this forum thinks he's in on it. I'd delete that shit too. So would anyone semi rational.

Well written.

[Anonymous]

^ yup

[Anonymous]

The assistant lied at first to explain why he did not figure out that something bad was happening at the house. The main lies were saying that he got the text with instructions from SS on Thursday morning, not one Wednesday night, and that he picked up and delivered an envelope with the money already in it and not that he personally put the money in the envelope and therefore knew exactly what was in it. Both lies had the effect of minimizing his knowledge and role, while the police were asking him whether SS had ever requested a sudden delivery of cash before and why he was not suspicious that something was wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Re the assistant:

- it's mentioned in the charging docs because if the police failed to disclose the discrepancy a competent attorney would eat the admissibility of the witness statements to shreds. It's in there to make sure that the warrants validity holds.

- the premise that the assistant kept some of the money is silly. Had SS lived he would have been immediately discovered.

- I also don't believe that someone involved in the murder would be so foolish as to text photos of evidence to friends, lie to the police and then admit the lies.

My take:

- Dude worked at some no name go kart racing field. Meets exceptionally successful CEO, befriends him, earns a job driving bentleys and Porsches around town. Picks up ridiculous amounts of cash and probably routinely witnesses business deals, checks, jewelry, dinners, parties etc all far far above any he's ever seen before. He's enamored: he's living the high life.

- Guy gets $40k, delivers it. Maybe he thinks its off, maybe he doesn't. The Instagram / texting of it is just more of his
flaunting it because "holy shit, check out how baller my boss is. Dude gets $40k like its pocket change."

- Lies about minor details: my guess is he thought maybe he was in trouble for bringing cash around or maybe because he thought he fucked up by not locking the car.

- his deleting his fb and shit seems totally normal. the murder made the front page of CNN. It's national news. Half this forum thinks he's in on it. I'd delete that shit too. So would anyone semi rational.

I agree with all of this, except that some criminals are extremely dumb and might text photos of stolen items to their friends. I recently watched a trial in which the morons posted pics of themselves on FB holding cash they had just stolen. I am not saying I think that's the case here -- seems likely the assistant is just kind of an idiot and not a criminal based on what I've read. But criminals do completely idiotic things sometimes. That's often how they get caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The assistant lied at first to explain why he did not figure out that something bad was happening at the house. The main lies were saying that he got the text with instructions from SS on Thursday morning, not one Wednesday night, and that he picked up and delivered an envelope with the money already in it and not that he personally put the money in the envelope and therefore knew exactly what was in it. Both lies had the effect of minimizing his knowledge and role, while the police were asking him whether SS had ever requested a sudden delivery of cash before and why he was not suspicious that something was wrong.

Good theory, maybe very true. I would think people close to the family would have known immediately that they were dead based on the timeline and friends/neighbors watching outside the house, watching the bodies being taken out spreading through social media, text, phones, etc...It took firefighters roughly 1hr to get the fire and bodies out. I read somewhere that SS mother even knew and called the maid..word travels fast I guess. I doubt officials questioned anyone that fast or even knew anything besides a bloody murder and house fire.

[Anonymous]

Would there have been serial numbers on the bills? Is that how the money orders are being traces? Jewelry....I am sure they took whatever was on hand including the wife's engagement ring...when the money runs out they will try to sell...I guess they will rip stones out of their settings but...since culprits won't get very far...wondering if can be caught that way. I guess grandmother ,children, insurance company might be asked what she owned and wore. The white bucket? Jewelry in it? Perhaps Brooklyn girlfriend has a new tennis bracelet?

[Anonymous]

Traced.

[Anonymous]

Here is a picture of Savva putting down the mats for his new dojo that was posted on FB...it's a few posts down on May 15th @ 9:48am. This whole story is just so sad on so many levels.

https://www.facebook.com/delawarebudokan?pnref=story

[Anonymous]

Job in Puerto Rico...does anyone know what that was? Moving to Puerto Rice? Or some sort of telecommute?

[Anonymous]

Rico! Ugh.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we thought he messed up by not locking the car then way make up a story saying they went to the bank of america and met with the manager when they did not. The other witness told police they did not, I'm sure bank manager and cameras confirmed this too. The other witness proved he was lying by showing the police his texts. The place where he got fired from is not some no name place and if the rumor mill is correct around where he lives then he had a high position and was in the media quite often.

This is a perfect example of one of the two of us reading the charging document wrong. By my reading, he went to the bank in either scenario. The question was whether the money was provided to the other employee in a manilla envelope or a red bag. The assistant originally said he saw the bank manager hand the employee a manilla envelope. Then he admitted that the employee had taken the money from his pockets and placed it in a red bag that the assistant had. But, in both cases, the transfer of the money appears to have taken place at the bank. They employee says the money was withdrawn from the bank, not from under a table as has been alleged earlier in this thread.

I don't read it that way. I read it that the money at some point came from the Bank of America but not that day. You cannot withdraw more than $10,000 in cash at a time and someone walking in and withdrawing $40,000 would absolutely raise concerns with the bank. You can't just do that. I assumed that story tipped off police that the assistant. Not to mention that the fire was big news and if someone had managed to withdraw $40,000 and managed not to spark inquiries in the process -- both things highly highly unlikely -- the bank would have immediately called authorities. They absolutely would have reported something this strange, the police would not have learned about it from the assistant. It just didn't happen. The money was already on hand.

I do not believe the assistant is implicated in the crime but his role is very significant because it reveals odd financial dealings that themselves may be related to the crime.

[Anonymous]

I meant to write that the story tipped off police that the assistant was lying.

[Anonymous]

I found the assistants page with his pictures..Not sure about posting it?

[Anonymous]

I want to follow the money....I want to know where the money is coming from. Job? Inhertitance? Or some place else? Maybe unrelated...
Anyone know what the job is in Puerto Rico? Did the family plan to move?( Still considered part of the U.S. the US guarantees Puerto Rican Bonds... I have not been but assume the dollar accepted there too, and not a tax haven? Or is it?
Was the family being threatened?
Anyone want to answer?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I found the assistants page with his pictures..Not sure about posting it?

Don't. He probably has enough problems already.