Full Pay

[Anonymous]

Does being able to full pay really make the difference for admission between two equally prepared applicants with ECs, etc? Doesn't matter whether it's private or public universities.

If there are admissions people out there, I would appreciate your matter-of-fact honesty.

[Anonymous]

This article is a couple of years old but not much has changed...The Three Biggest College Admission Lies.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/26/steve-cohen-on-the-three-biggest-college-admissions-lies.html

[Anonymous]

It only matters if you are on the bubble.

[Anonymous]

I work for an organization that helps low-income students go to college. In the past few years we have definitely seen that there are fewer slots for our students at some of our previously reliable schools (particularly true at good but not elite SLACs). Our more forthright admissions reps, as well as some enrollment managers we know, have told us that schools are trying to get more full pays-particularly, as the pp said, for students on the bubble. A superstar who can't pay may still get in over a solid student who can, but among those middling students schools are looking for the money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work for an organization that helps low-income students go to college. In the past few years we have definitely seen that there are fewer slots for our students at some of our previously reliable schools (particularly true at good but not elite SLACs). Our more forthright admissions reps, as well as some enrollment managers we know, have told us that schools are trying to get more full pays-particularly, as the pp said, for students on the bubble. A superstar who can't pay may still get in over a solid student who can, but among those middling students schools are looking for the money.

Your candor is much appreciated. We are trying to decide whether to live on one salary and use the other to pay the full undergrad tuition and outside expenses at the college of choice ASSUMING our child gets in. We pay full high school tuition now at great sacrifice, and college would add another $20,000 approximately. Paying high school was a huge stretch but DC is such a great kid and has put forth so much effort, I guess we would pay college. For us, the high school tuition was a good investment as we didn't have a quality public in our area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does being able to full pay really make the difference for admission between two equally prepared applicants with ECs, etc? Doesn't matter whether it's private or public universities.

If there are admissions people out there, I would appreciate your matter-of-fact honesty.

full pay matters at schools like carnegie mellon that are stingy as fuck about aid and are 'poor' compared to their peers.

Seriously CMU either must have shitty PM's running their endowment fund or their alums must hate the school and not give back

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does being able to full pay really make the difference for admission between two equally prepared applicants with ECs, etc? Doesn't matter whether it's private or public universities.

If there are admissions people out there, I would appreciate your matter-of-fact honesty.

full pay matters at schools like carnegie mellon that are stingy as fuck about aid and are 'poor' compared to their peers.

Seriously CMU either must have shitty PM's running their endowment fund or their alums must hate the school and not give back

Nobody is more stingy than Brown.

[Anonymous]

Look for good schools with relatively small endowments (compared to peer institutions) -- Wake Forest comes to mind. Those school will be most interested in full pay kids.

[Anonymous]

I do not get concerns for scholarships when you can and are paying for private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does being able to full pay really make the difference for admission between two equally prepared applicants with ECs, etc? Doesn't matter whether it's private or public universities.

If there are admissions people out there, I would appreciate your matter-of-fact honesty.

full pay matters at schools like carnegie mellon that are stingy as fuck about aid and are 'poor' compared to their peers.

Seriously CMU either must have shitty PM's running their endowment fund or their alums must hate the school and not give back

I have also heard many times that CMU is surprisingly ungenerous about financial aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not get concerns for scholarships when you can and are paying for private school.

Did you miss that it was a real stretch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not get concerns for scholarships when you can and are paying for private school.

Did you miss that it was a real stretch?

More the reason it makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does being able to full pay really make the difference for admission between two equally prepared applicants with ECs, etc? Doesn't matter whether it's private or public universities.

If there are admissions people out there, I would appreciate your matter-of-fact honesty.

full pay matters at schools like carnegie mellon that are stingy as fuck about aid and are 'poor' compared to their peers.

Seriously CMU either must have shitty PM's running their endowment fund or their alums must hate the school and not give back

I have also heard many times that CMU is surprisingly ungenerous about financial aid.

because it is true and it isn't unsurprising. The administration pretty much says it is because the endowment is a lot less than at peer schools in the 20-25 range.

The odd thing is georgetown is similarly 'poor' but i haven't heard them being as stingy.

SCS is so strong @ cmu that i don't think full pay would move the needle, but the rest of the schools (you apply to a particular scohol within CMU like you do for penn) would definitely give admittance boosts for full pay kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not get concerns for scholarships when you can and are paying for private school.

Did you miss that it was a real stretch?

More the reason it makes no sense.

If it's not your money or struggle and you have nothing helpful to offer, you shouldn't really worry about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do not get concerns for scholarships when you can and are paying for private school.

Did you miss that it was a real stretch?

More the reason it makes no sense.

If it's not your money or struggle and you have nothing helpful to offer, you shouldn't really worry about it.

You can afford college but instead prefer private high school. It is everyone's problem as you take funding away from kids who need it.