Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

Yes, loyal, and yes, I do think a personal assistant would do this. If he didn't know Savvas or anyone else was dead, and he thought it was just a minor fire and a robbery? Yes. That's protecting his job, that he seemed to dig.

This assistant is a racer with sponsors. I doubt he would tarnish his rep and lose sponsors for someone else by telling lies. Why would it make a difference to him how he obtained the money to be dropped off?? The things he lied about protect nobody but him and the other person that dealt with the money..not his employer.. Just sayin

Ok think of it like this: the assistant was thinking just like you.
Why would it make a difference where the money came from? He was asked to get it, he did, he delivered it, he left and went to Home Depot.
Done.
When he heard of the fire, he was like omg- and maybe the reality of things being amiss were only beginning to set in his mind. He tells the cops he got cash and dropped it off, but wasn't thinking- "oh shit this is gonna turn into a nationwide gripping quadruple murder severely scrutinized."
Once the gravity of the situation unfolds, he yes, admits to lying. Because that is his offense, petty lies to cover himself and possibly his employer on tax issues.

I don't understand what your getting at? What is he covering for himself or tax issues if he did nothing wrong? Why would he even think to lie is what I'm saying? It's simple police ask what happened and you tell them unless you have something to hide. The reason he changed his LIE is because the police showed him a text proving that he LIED, and he lied several times. That means the other person involved told the truth.

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Maybe initially he thought he would be fired by SS if he did not cover for him...and he really liked this new job with all the toys....

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

Yes, loyal, and yes, I do think a personal assistant would do this. If he didn't know Savvas or anyone else was dead, and he thought it was just a minor fire and a robbery? Yes. That's protecting his job, that he seemed to dig.

This assistant is a racer with sponsors. I doubt he would tarnish his rep and lose sponsors for someone else by telling lies. Why would it make a difference to him how he obtained the money to be dropped off?? The things he lied about protect nobody but him and the other person that dealt with the money..not his employer.. Just sayin

Ok think of it like this: the assistant was thinking just like you.
Why would it make a difference where the money came from? He was asked to get it, he did, he delivered it, he left and went to Home Depot.
Done.
When he heard of the fire, he was like omg- and maybe the reality of things being amiss were only beginning to set in his mind. He tells the cops he got cash and dropped it off, but wasn't thinking- "oh shit this is gonna turn into a nationwide gripping quadruple murder severely scrutinized."
Once the gravity of the situation unfolds, he yes, admits to lying. Because that is his offense, petty lies to cover himself and possibly his employer on tax issues.

I don't understand what your getting at? What is he covering for himself or tax issues if he did nothing wrong? Why would he even think to lie is what I'm saying? It's simple police ask what happened and you tell them unless you have something to hide. The reason he changed his LIE is because the police showed him a text proving that he LIED, and he lied several times. That means the other person involved told the truth.

Sorry, rereading I was confusing, you're right.
I mean if he at first didn't realize the gravity of the situation, he may have thought he was just lying about a petty detail in a robbery/fire. A detail that would be overlooked in a situation like that. But once it was revealed to be murders and hostage money, he came clean to cops, hence the police report that clearly stars Witness-1 admits to lying about statements x,y,z.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe initially he thought he would be fired by SS if he did not cover for him...and he really liked this new job with all the toys....

All I can go by are the facts we have been presented with. For LE to bring up that the assistant lied in the charging documents is substantial.

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Can we please stop with the housekeeper and assistant? They didn't kill this family. But most likely people who did are still out there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe initially he thought he would be fired by SS if he did not cover for him...and he really liked this new job with all the toys....

All I can go by are the facts we have been presented with. For LE to bring up that the assistant lied in the charging documents is substantial.

Maybe? The supposed assistant has deleted all his online accounts too. FB, Twitter, Pintrest. The only one still up I suppose he can't delete because of the sponsors?

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.

what did he lie about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe initially he thought he would be fired by SS if he did not cover for him...and he really liked this new job with all the toys....

All I can go by are the facts we have been presented with. For LE to bring up that the assistant lied in the charging documents is substantial.

Maybe? The supposed assistant has deleted all his online accounts too. FB, Twitter, Pintrest. The only one still up I suppose he can't delete because of the sponsors?

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I am no detective, but I am highly suspect of the assistant.

What is his name? Do we know that?

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Anonymous wrote:To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.

what did he lie about?

Here's a possible scenario: he delivered part of the money, keeping some of it for himself. The discrepancies in his statements might be CYA relating to missing money. Possible consequence: when the murderers noticed the total fell far short, they became enraged, and took their anger out on their victims.

My guess is he *probably* didn't have anything directly to do with these murders, but something prompted his lies. The court documents are explicit on the point - he lied in his statements to the police.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.


The assistant may have thought that this was just supposed to be about the theft of the $$, and never imagined that it would turn into a quadruple homicide and fire.

[Anonymous]

The assistant may have thought that this was just supposed to be about the theft of the $$, and never imagined that it would turn into a quadruple homicide and fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.

what did he lie about?

Here's a possible scenario: he delivered part of the money, keeping some of it for himself. The discrepancies in his statements might be CYA relating to missing money. Possible consequence: when the murderers noticed the total fell far short, they became enraged, and took their anger out on their victims.

My guess is he *probably* didn't have anything directly to do with these murders, but something prompted his lies. The court documents are explicit on the point - he lied in his statements to the police.

Well SS would know if he didn't deliver all the money if was supposed to live? Doesn't add up, SS would of sent him to jail too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The assistant may have thought that this was just supposed to be about the theft of the $$, and never imagined that it would turn into a quadruple homicide and fire.

This sounds possible and highly likely to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.

what did he lie about?

Here's a possible scenario: he delivered part of the money, keeping some of it for himself. The discrepancies in his statements might be CYA relating to missing money. Possible consequence: when the murderers noticed the total fell far short, they became enraged, and took their anger out on their victims.

My guess is he *probably* didn't have anything directly to do with these murders, but something prompted his lies. The court documents are explicit on the point - he lied in his statements to the police.

Well SS would know if he didn't deliver all the money if was supposed to live? Doesn't add up, SS would of sent him to jail too.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.

what did he lie about?

Here's a possible scenario: he delivered part of the money, keeping some of it for himself. The discrepancies in his statements might be CYA relating to missing money. Possible consequence: when the murderers noticed the total fell far short, they became enraged, and took their anger out on their victims.

My guess is he *probably* didn't have anything directly to do with these murders, but something prompted his lies. The court documents are explicit on the point - he lied in his statements to the police.

Well SS would know if he didn't deliver all the money if was supposed to live? Doesn't add up, SS would of sent him to jail too.

Didn't the assistant indicate that the car door where he left the money wasn't secured?