Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

I never thought the HK being in on it, I think she was trying to be helpful in her own way by telling as much as she knew to everyone..

The assistant most def. because the police have stated over and over that a person involved knew the family's daily life. Who else would know that other than the personal assistant...that's what they are hired for. Plus the assistant lied several times to police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

I think it's because none of this makes sense. None of it. The entire situation is so far outside what any of us can wrap our heads around. We see these puzzle pieces and wonder how they can fit. If we can figure out how they fit, maybe we can begin to make sense of this completely unfathomable situation. So we grasp at straws and try to make them fit. It's all we can do.

That being said, I have always thought NG and the assistant are both innocent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

also, his employer had died by that time...so the 'being loyal' explanation doesn't do much for me...that said, I really don't think the assistant was involved.

[Anonymous]

Is there a mugshot?

[Anonymous]

Speculation overload is killing this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a mugshot?

of who?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

Yes, loyal, and yes, I do think a personal assistant would do this. If he didn't know Savvas or anyone else was dead, and he thought it was just a minor fire and a robbery? Yes. That's protecting his job, that he seemed to dig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

also, his employer had died by that time...so the 'being loyal' explanation doesn't do much for me...that said, I really don't think the assistant was involved.

He probably didn't know his employer was killed at that point. It was initially being reported as a fire. The assistant called another employee "crying that he just dropped money off there earlier".
He seems to just be, an assistant. Not a cold-blooded child killer. Or an orchestrator of a hostage situation involving his boss for what, $20k max? Being employed by Savvas was definitely more lucrative than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

Yes, loyal, and yes, I do think a personal assistant would do this. If he didn't know Savvas or anyone else was dead, and he thought it was just a minor fire and a robbery? Yes. That's protecting his job, that he seemed to dig.

This assistant is a racer with sponsors. I doubt he would tarnish his rep and lose sponsors for someone else by telling lies. Why would it make a difference to him how he obtained the money to be dropped off?? The things he lied about protect nobody but him and the other person that dealt with the money..not his employer.. Just sayin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a mugshot?

of who?

NP here, I would like to see the mugshot of Wint. They have been using an old one from a previous arrest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why do people want so bad for first the housecleaner and then the assistant to be involved? neither were. does it make us feel safer because we have people we 100% trust around us (or we don't have people)?

The assistant is a schmuck that is all. His lies were inconsequential - the product of the kind of uncarefull mind who wouldn't consider the money request at all suspicious.

Now the suspects brother is a real possibility

Yes, thank you!
And the police report, it reads like standard police protocol, being as factual as possible. Straight up lying about locking the car is self serving, not psychopath-murderer. Lying about getting the money from a bank to cover for your employer is loyal, again not big and easily explainable.

Thank-you both! Talk about jumping to conclusions.

Uhhh..loyal?? I don't think the average person is going to lie to the police to protect someone else and risk being charged with obstruction of justice, make false statements, accessory after the fact, etc.

Yes, loyal, and yes, I do think a personal assistant would do this. If he didn't know Savvas or anyone else was dead, and he thought it was just a minor fire and a robbery? Yes. That's protecting his job, that he seemed to dig.

This assistant is a racer with sponsors. I doubt he would tarnish his rep and lose sponsors for someone else by telling lies. Why would it make a difference to him how he obtained the money to be dropped off?? The things he lied about protect nobody but him and the other person that dealt with the money..not his employer.. Just sayin

Ok think of it like this: the assistant was thinking just like you.
Why would it make a difference where the money came from? He was asked to get it, he did, he delivered it, he left and went to Home Depot.
Done.
When he heard of the fire, he was like omg- and maybe the reality of things being amiss were only beginning to set in his mind. He tells the cops he got cash and dropped it off, but wasn't thinking- "oh shit this is gonna turn into a nationwide gripping quadruple murder severely scrutinized."
Once the gravity of the situation unfolds, he yes, admits to lying. Because that is his offense, petty lies to cover himself and possibly his employer on tax issues.

[Anonymous]

To clarify: he lied before he knew the gravity of the situation.