Gaza war and College Campus Protests
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Anonymous
If they actually cared about genocide they would protest about a genocide occurring right now. They're not. |
Anonymous
Palestinians have risen against Hamas many many times. Last August, the biggest demonstrations in Gaza happened against Hamas. The reason Israel didn’t pay attention to the mob in the days leading up to 10/7 is they assumed it was another anti Hamas protest. 10/7 conveniently happened right after the largest anti Hamas protests last summer in Gaza and the largest anti Netanyhau protests in Israel last summer as well. The political realities of Israelis and Palestinians are intertwined and nothing can happen unless both sides realize they are fighting the same thing, right wing extremists |
Anonymous
They are...? |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Gaza_economic_protests
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Gaza_economic_protests https://www.timesofisrael.com/protests-against-hamas-reemerge-in-the-streets-of-gaza-but-will-they-persist/amp/ On July 30, thousands of people throughout the Gaza Strip took to the streets demanding better living conditions, in a rare display of public anger against the Hamas regime. The following Friday, August 4, hundreds of people rallied again in various parts of the enclave. Protesters were rallying under the slogan “We want to live” — the same slogan used in the last round of protests in March-April 2019. The demonstrations have been organized by an anonymous Instagram account under the name “Al-Virus Al-Sakher,” or “The Mocking Virus,” which has 160,000 followers. Various anti-Hamas activists in exile have joined the campaign, urging Gazans to take to the streets and demand a better standard of living. Given the near-complete absence of free media in the Strip, it is difficult for outside analysts to gauge how many people participated in the latest round of protests. According to videos circulating on social media, numbers seemed to be significantly larger in the first demonstration than in the second, when Hamas’s security apparatus adopted preventive measures. Protests were scheduled to take place once again throughout the strip on Monday. However, Hamas came prepared to thwart them. People are much more outspoken against Hamas on social media today than they were 10 or five years ago,” said Rami Aman, a prominent Gazan peace activist living in Cairo, and a critic of the terror group that rules the enclave. “Back then, people would not dare make their opinions heard online for fear of retaliation.” Aman, the founder of a grassroots youth empowerment group called the “Gaza Youth Committee,” was arrested by Hamas several times for his activism, including one seven-month imprisonment in 2020 after he organized a Zoom meeting between Gazans and Israelis. Hamas considered this a criminal act. |
Anonymous
Birth rate in Gaza is 3.38 children per woman. You lying moron. |
Anonymous
Hamas never vowed to kill Jews and is in fact on record their problem is with Israel and Jews per se. |
Anonymous
Israelis think anyone who doesn’t support them blindly must be misinformed. |
Anonymous
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Mustafa (not his real name), an anti-Hamas activist in his mid-30s living in Gaza who agreed to speak to The Times of Israel by email on condition of total anonymity, described life in the isolated enclave under the rule of Hamas and the Israeli blockade as an “open-air prison.”
Mustafa said that with over 70% youth unemployment and an average per capita income per day of NIS 20, or $5.5, intermittent access to electricity, and undrinkable tap water, life in the enclave is barely livable for the vast majority of citizens who are not somehow tied to Hamas. Leaving the Strip requires at least $10,000 to be smuggled out illegally, with high chances of dying on the way to freedom, he added. This is all because “Gazan civilians are exploited as a pawn in a struggle between regional forces, and Hamas uses its citizens as human shields to defend its project of ‘Islamic resistance’ while it silences and threatens to kill any opposition,” he continued. A professional who describes himself as a “liberal and a democrat” interested in “humanitarian issues and free citizenship,” Mustafa estimated that the current wave of demonstrations has only just begun, since in his view the protesters’ demands are not limited to electricity, but aimed at ultimately overthrowing “the military regime and the rule of the clerics.” With regard to relations with the neighboring Jewish state, Mustafa expressed his wish for a Palestinian government with “new, clear and rational policies toward Israel and the occupation army, without regional alliances,” referring to Iran’s support for Hamas and other radical groups. “The Israeli side looks at us as terrorists, not as people with dreams and aspirations,” Mustafa said. “But the reality is quite different: Most of the people of Gaza are innocent civilians living in dire humanitarian conditions. They only dream of a decent life, freedom, justice, peace and democratic elections. “This is why people took to the streets. To demand their most basic rights, an improvement in their living conditions, an end to poverty, unemployment, the lack of water and electricity, and to protest the imposition of power by force, being silenced and spied on,” he said. “You can divide the people of Gaza in two: a large majority living under the poverty line, and a small ruling elite affiliated with Hamas and other Islamist factions, who live off the funding received by the ‘resistance,’” he added. From his personal perspective as a peace activist, Mustafa said that “these demonstrations do not come out of thin air.” In his words, they express the “conviction of the Gazan people that peace is the solution. Gazans want an end to the occupation and the Israeli siege, and they want an end to the bloodshed that has been going on for so many years.” |
Anonymous
Hamas has killed, and is literally killing Jews. Is your point that they also killed Muslims? Yes, they have and do. |
Anonymous
The average Ultra Orthodox female in Israel is 6.6 children. Seems it is higher in Israel where the state(and the US) pays for them. |
Anonymous
I don't really understand the relationship between Gaza and the West Bank. before this conflict, could Gazans have opted to live in the West Bank? |
Anonymous
There are different voices inside Hamas as it’s a political party. Some support 1967 borders (two state solution), some support 1948 borders (one state solution, no Israel), some want to kill all Jews, some want Jews to go back to their “countries of origin”. Some support hostage taking but no murder, some support murder and no hostages. Some are fine with Israeli sovereignty and statehood but say the Palestinian Authority is the biggest threat to Hamas and thus want to fight/take over leadership of the West Bank to form a Palestinian unity government. Some say Israel’s leadership is the bigger threat than the PLO/PA in the West Bank. Some want Sharia law in the entire Gaza district, some Hamas hire Christian’s and atheists to government positions and don’t care about religious law. Some want a good relationship with the US, some hate the US and do not think there’s any daylight btwn the Us and Israel. Hamas is not one idea or one person. Part of the chaos with Hamas besides the general evil and corruption is the disagreements they have with leadership. Sinwar and Haniyeh hated each other. Haniyeh supported a two state solution and became more of a moderate over time. Sinwar is a capital R radical. By killing Haniyeh, Israel kinda helped the worst person ever take over and complete his coup of Hamas |
Anonymous
According to the UN, it was 6.2 per woman in the early 2000s. Which is why there are so many young children in Gaza today. The decline to 3.38 is much more recent, but that's still well above twice the global norm. In any even, Palestinians in Gaza have a lot of children, much, much more than is normal than any other corner of the world. |
Anonymous
Because they are leftist and liberals just like the hostages. Israelis call the families and hostages traitors and leftists. There already have been attacks against family members in Israel.
https://jewishcurrents.org/hostages-families-fight-to-be-heard The first poster is one of those people. I think there will be serious violence against the hostage families in Israel soon. The right is armed, believes the families are working against Israel and ready to go. There is very little sympathy for the hostages families in Israel. |