Framing Britney Spears

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She posted on IG, apologizing for lying and pretending she was happy and OK.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of people live their lives in unfortunate ways. I am baffled as to why Britney isn't allowed the same. And would argue that this life is not a whole lot better for her anyway.

If one of my family members were displaying all the bizarre behaviors that she did and hanging out with weird people who could take advantage, I wouldn't willingly let that kind of situation continue. She could have wound up on the streets and her boys would be paying a big emotional price, too.

It's called free will. Women are allowed to have it. Do you think her boys haven't already paid a price? They barely get to see her.

They barely get to see her because she’s incapable of competent parenting. Hence the IUD, which seems a very sensible decision given her limitations. As is preventing her from marrying the loser BF salivating at the prospect of getting his hands on her loot. The only thing I object to is her being compelled to work if her heart’s not in it, which it seems it isn’t.

Agree but do think a neutral third party should be handling her conservatorship.

The rub is that then you have a third party who’s only motivation is financial and benefits by it continuing. Is that better than a family member? I don’t know. I don’t think any of us know anywhere near what one would need to know to have a valid opinion.

Agreed.

Her sister knows what’s what. Her comments over the years lead me to believe Britney isn’t well and the conservatorship is necessary.

Jamie Lynn was the smart one. She's also the sole trustee for the trust for Britney's kids. And Britney confessed to burning down her gym in 2020. She's going to need some adult supervision.

Britney Spears revealed on Instagram yesterday that she had accidentally burned down her home gym a few months ago. In the clip, Spears revisits her studio, which now has only two working machines, and reveals that the space is bare-bones due to a fire caused by two candles she left burning and had forgotten about.

"I haven't been in here for, like, six months, because I burnt my gym down, unfortunately. I had two candles, and, yeah, one thing led to another, and I burned it down," says Spears in the video.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/arts/music/britney-spears-transcript.html

I just read the transcript of her speech. She's complaining a ton about the professional court-appointed conservator and that the woman made her go to therapy twice a week and see a shrink once a week. If Britney were left to her own devices, I predict she'd get into trouble pretty quickly.

Also I want to speak to you about, at the moment, my obligations, which, I personally don’t think at the very moment I owe anybody anything. I have three meetings a week I have to attend no matter what. I just don’t like feeling like I work for the people whom I pay. I don’t like being told I have to, no matter what, even if I’m sick, Jodi [Montgomery] the conservator says I have to see my coach Ken even when I’m sick. I would like to do one meeting a week with a therapist. I’ve never before, even before they sent me to that place, had two therapy sessions, a therapy session, and one therapy session with — I have a doctor and then a therapy person. What I’ve been forced to do illegal in my life. I shouldn’t be told I have to be available three times a week to these people I don’t know.

I’m talking to you today because I feel again, yes, even Jodi is starting to kind of take it too far with me. They have me going to therapy twice a week and a psychiatrist. I’ve never in the past had — wait, they have me going, yeah, twice a week, and Dr. [unclear] — so that’s three times a week. I’ve never in the past had to see a therapist more than once a week. It takes too much out of me going to this man I don’t know, number one.

The Jodi Ms. Spears referenced is Jodi Montgomery, a licensed professional conservator who stepped into the role of managing the singer’s personal life after her father stepped back from the role in 2019. Last year, Mr. Ingham said that Ms. Spears preferred to keep Ms. Montgomery as her personal conservator, saying that she was “strongly opposed” to her father returning to that role.

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Anonymous wrote:All the Free Britney nonsense speaks volumes about how ignorant most people are when it comes to mental health and/or addiction.

As a lawyer, I can tell you that families struggle to protect their loved ones. It is not easy to secure a guardianship or conservatorship. There are people who prey upon others and steal their money, retirement, SS, VA benefits, etc.

Preventing her from marrying protects her interests. I can’t tell you how many families are left with no way to protect their loved one once a spouse is in the mix.

If she is sufficiently competent to headline a Vegas show and financially support her entire family, then she’s sufficiently competent to make her own life decisions. That’s the crux of it. So what if she loses her money and never performs again? It’s her life. Those are her choices to make.

How did the Vegas residency go? Was she able to handle it? Is she still performing?

Perhaps she better to do it? Maybe it was a test to see how she did?

Here’s the thing: even a trained monkey can dance on cue.

She is accustomed to a certain lifestyle. It’s expensive. Her lack of capacity will require a lifetime of a paid trustee to handle her business and ensure she is properly cared for. Someone needed to set that up.

You people really don’t understand how difficult it is to deal with a person with mental health and addiction issues. Because of her celebrity, it’s an added layer of issues.

This doesn’t add much about the mental side of things, but her residency in Las Vegas was a huge success. It was supposed to run for 2 years and was so well received critically and in ticket sales it was extended to a 4-year run. The run grossed $138 million and she performed for 1 million people at more than 250 shows. I went to the show and she was fantastic; didn’t miss a beat, smiling and laughing. She was doing great as a performer (at least what the audience saw).

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Anonymous wrote:Britney and her boyfriend have been together for 5 years. He's put up with a lot of BS in 5 years. Do you really think this is some long game con for him trying to get her money?

What else would he see in her?
Britney is very sweet, but what would the appeal of a badly aging, very damaged white trash former pop star to an absolutely gorgeous Iranian man 12 years her junior?

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Anonymous wrote:Britney and her boyfriend have been together for 5 years. He's put up with a lot of BS in 5 years. Do you really think this is some long game con for him trying to get her money?

What else would he see in her?
Britney is very sweet, but what would the appeal of a badly aging, very damaged white trash former pop star to an absolutely gorgeous Iranian man 12 years her junior?

Maybe he doesn’t see her as “badly aging white trash”, as you describe her.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney and her boyfriend have been together for 5 years. He's put up with a lot of BS in 5 years. Do you really think this is some long game con for him trying to get her money?

What else would he see in her?
Britney is very sweet, but what would the appeal of a badly aging, very damaged white trash former pop star to an absolutely gorgeous Iranian man 12 years her junior?

Maybe he doesn’t see her as “badly aging white trash”, as you describe her.

I actually think she looks great, especially considering the drugs/alcohol etc. And she's rich and can dance.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney and her boyfriend have been together for 5 years. He's put up with a lot of BS in 5 years. Do you really think this is some long game con for him trying to get her money?

What else would he see in her?
Britney is very sweet, but what would the appeal of a badly aging, very damaged white trash former pop star to an absolutely gorgeous Iranian man 12 years her junior?

Maybe he doesn’t see her as “badly aging white trash”, as you describe her.

I actually think she looks great, especially considering the drugs/alcohol etc. And she's rich and can dance.

Dont we all love the shit out of her?

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Britney Spears is a full grown adult who literally supports her entire family, parents included, and has since she was a child. While her choices may not be my choices, she had a right to self determination. The conservatorship is cruel and oppressive; if she wants to marry her boo, get pregnant, and flush her money down the toilet, who are we to stop her? As long as she isn’t hurting herself or other people, let this woman live. And more importantly, keep her leechy parents out of her bank account.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney and her boyfriend have been together for 5 years. He's put up with a lot of BS in 5 years. Do you really think this is some long game con for him trying to get her money?

What else would he see in her?
Britney is very sweet, but what would the appeal of a badly aging, very damaged white trash former pop star to an absolutely gorgeous Iranian man 12 years her junior?

What a horrible person you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney Spears is a full grown adult who literally supports her entire family, parents included, and has since she was a child. While her choices may not be my choices, she had a right to self determination. The conservatorship is cruel and oppressive; if she wants to marry her boo, get pregnant, and flush her money down the toilet, who are we to stop her? As long as she isn’t hurting herself or other people, let this woman live. And more importantly, keep her leechy parents out of her bank account.

Exactly. If her family is so competent, why don't they go out and get jobs and get rich? My parents don't suck my blood.

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Anonymous wrote:Britney Spears is a full grown adult who literally supports her entire family, parents included, and has since she was a child. While her choices may not be my choices, she had a right to self determination. The conservatorship is cruel and oppressive; if she wants to marry her boo, get pregnant, and flush her money down the toilet, who are we to stop her? As long as she isn’t hurting herself or other people, let this woman live. And more importantly, keep her leechy parents out of her bank account.

The people on this board complains furiously if their families want their money, but they are so generous when it is Britney Spears money. Try support and pay your opponents legal bills, then you can talk.

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Plenty of pop stars lit themselves on fire, it is their right.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of people live their lives in unfortunate ways. I am baffled as to why Britney isn't allowed the same. And would argue that this life is not a whole lot better for her anyway.

If one of my family members were displaying all the bizarre behaviors that she did and hanging out with weird people who could take advantage, I wouldn't willingly let that kind of situation continue. She could have wound up on the streets and her boys would be paying a big emotional price, too.

It's called free will. Women are allowed to have it. Do you think her boys haven't already paid a price? They barely get to see her.

They barely get to see her because she’s incapable of competent parenting. Hence the IUD, which seems a very sensible decision given her limitations. As is preventing her from marrying the loser BF salivating at the prospect of getting his hands on her loot. The only thing I object to is her being compelled to work if her heart’s not in it, which it seems it isn’t.

Agree but do think a neutral third party should be handling her conservatorship.

The rub is that then you have a third party who’s only motivation is financial and benefits by it continuing. Is that better than a family member? I don’t know. I don’t think any of us know anywhere near what one would need to know to have a valid opinion.

Agreed.

Her sister knows what’s what. Her comments over the years lead me to believe Britney isn’t well and the conservatorship is necessary.

She’s well enough to work her ass off and support not only her children and ex husband but her parents. If the woman can show up to work and literally entertain thousands of people with 7-8 shows per week, she’s not incompetent. Once you’re labeled “crazy” it’s hard to shake that label and no, I do not have faith that a court would see through her family’s manipulation of her. And while she may not be making choices you or I would, Spears is an adult. Let her be free.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All the Free Britney nonsense speaks volumes about how ignorant most people are when it comes to mental health and/or addiction.

As a lawyer, I can tell you that families struggle to protect their loved ones. It is not easy to secure a guardianship or conservatorship. There are people who prey upon others and steal their money, retirement, SS, VA benefits, etc.

Preventing her from marrying protects her interests. I can’t tell you how many families are left with no way to protect their loved one once a spouse is in the mix.

If she is sufficiently competent to headline a Vegas show and financially support her entire family, then she’s sufficiently competent to make her own life decisions. That’s the crux of it. So what if she loses her money and never performs again? It’s her life. Those are her choices to make.

Maybe the issue is that she's not only a danger to herself, but a danger to others? She is able to headline a Vegas show, but maybe that's because of the medication and therapy she is taking? Maybe if she is left to her own devices that wouldn't be possible?

A conservatorship is not easy to get, nor is it easy to maintain for so many years. This conservatorship has been reviewed numerous times already. I find it hard to believe that everyone involved is doing something illegal and forcing this onto a competent person.

Actually they aren't that difficult to get--if she had doctors declare her incompetent and nobody objected.

I would guess that "Doctors" do not easily and eagerly want to go to court to declare someone incompetent. It's a big deal, they too understand agency and the profound importance of individual rights and autonomy. It is likely a last resort in a very difficult, desperate situation.