Kyle Rittenhouse: Vigilante White Men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New York Times actually did their jobs for once

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809?s=12

Tired of people talking out of their a$$es on this

+1. That's a great thread. I don't love the right wing nut jobs who need a gun to go to the grocery store, but I also don't like the social justice warriors making up facts to suit their narratives. Centrism feels lonely these days.

there’s nothing in that thread that changes the fact of armed and organized white militias showing up at protests against police violence against black people. your centrism is not as clear eyed and clever as you think it is.

There IS video of the guy that got shot first being aggressive and saying “shoot me” to the armed guys who were backing away. He wasn’t protesting he was trying to pick a fight. He is on video being held back from charging the guys with guns. Centrist means that you look at things without bias. You can not support stupid gun nuts while also seeing issues with a man charging at people using fighting words and chasing people while literally asking to get shot.

it’s so funny I’m crying that you believe this interpretation is factual because you are a “centrist.”

Nothing from my post is an “interpretation”. It’s all on video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These right wing nuts are a huge threat to our country. Protesters are not. And protesters should not damage property and should be accountable for thre damage they do. But it is nothing compared to the lawlessness of the right wing like Rittenhouse.

You're not wrong, but that's why you can't let this stuff escalate. You ignore the people setting fires, destroying property, and looting because you want to respect the rights of the protesters; it becomes awfully tough to put the genie back in the bottle before the situation escalates to vigilantism like Rittenhouse or his fellow travelers. That's why you enforce content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on the protesters in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New York Times actually did their jobs for once

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809?s=12

Tired of people talking out of their a$$es on this

+1. That's a great thread. I don't love the right wing nut jobs who need a gun to go to the grocery store, but I also don't like the social justice warriors making up facts to suit their narratives. Centrism feels lonely these days.

there’s nothing in that thread that changes the fact of armed and organized white militias showing up at protests against police violence against black people. your centrism is not as clear eyed and clever as you think it is.

There IS video of the guy that got shot first being aggressive and saying “shoot me” to the armed guys who were backing away. He wasn’t protesting he was trying to pick a fight. He is on video being held back from charging the guys with guns. Centrist means that you look at things without bias. You can not support stupid gun nuts while also seeing issues with a man charging at people using fighting words and chasing people while literally asking to get shot.

it’s so funny I’m crying that you believe this interpretation is factual because you are a “centrist.”

DP here. The interpretation isn't correct because it is centrist. It's the interpretation that is most consistent with the facts as we have them. All of the other interpretations are relying on inferences about his politics or why he was there in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

Well, we see this differently. And either way, I can tell you that like hell I want someone like Trump or his blood-thirsty supporters egging someone like this on.

He had an illegal gun. He was out past curfew. His classmates say they thought he'd shoot up a school one day. And here you are saying this kid is a hero, and we need more kids like this one, and send them into our neighborhoods - and no thanks.

You people are nuts.

[Anonymous]

Oh no: his arrest document lists him as Hispanic. Head's exploding!

I guess he'll be a "white hispanic" like Zimmerman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

Well, we see this differently. And either way, I can tell you that like hell I want someone like Trump or his blood-thirsty supporters egging someone like this on.

He had an illegal gun. He was out past curfew. His classmates say they thought he'd shoot up a school one day. And here you are saying this kid is a hero, and we need more kids like this one, and send them into our neighborhoods - and no thanks.

You people are nuts.

Where did you read this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

Well, we see this differently. And either way, I can tell you that like hell I want someone like Trump or his blood-thirsty supporters egging someone like this on.

He had an illegal gun. He was out past curfew. His classmates say they thought he'd shoot up a school one day. And here you are saying this kid is a hero, and we need more kids like this one, and send them into our neighborhoods - and no thanks.

You people are nuts.

Nuts is when you falsely quote me as saying he is a hero etc. when I have done nothing of the sort and I have actually posted against gun nuts like him. Honesty is the only way kit of this mess that this country is in. Truth should be more important than boosting your chosen team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

Well, we see this differently. And either way, I can tell you that like hell I want someone like Trump or his blood-thirsty supporters egging someone like this on.

He had an illegal gun. He was out past curfew. His classmates say they thought he'd shoot up a school one day. And here you are saying this kid is a hero, and we need more kids like this one, and send them into our neighborhoods - and no thanks.

You people are nuts.

Where did you read this?

DP:
It’s on Twitter. A few of his high school classmates have chimed in on some the twitter threads with trending videos of the incident. He ticked all the school shooter boxes: obsessed with guns, antagonistic, socially aloof and awkward, a bit of a loner, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These right wing nuts are a huge threat to our country. Protesters are not. And protesters should not damage property and should be accountable for thre damage they do. But it is nothing compared to the lawlessness of the right wing like Rittenhouse.

You're not wrong, but that's why you can't let this stuff escalate. You ignore the people setting fires, destroying property, and looting because you want to respect the rights of the protesters; it becomes awfully tough to put the genie back in the bottle before the situation escalates to vigilantism like Rittenhouse or his fellow travelers. That's why you enforce content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on the protesters in the first place.

More often than not, the people setting fires, looting and shooting people are the right wing extremists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

And why were they chasing him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first guy who died - Joseph Rosenbaum - is being touted as a sex offender with a minor. Rosenbaum was 36 and the crime took place in 2002. When Rosenbaum was 18.

I’m just adding this because I felt like this throw away talking point needs more context. Likely this was a Romeo-Juliet romance where he had sexual contact with someone close to his own age (eg, he was 18 and dating someone who was 16).

A lot of states have loosened these laws in recent years, because the charges are so damaging to young people. But in 2002, the old laws were strictly enforced and lives ruined. I’d like to have more context on this particular case.

The other guy shot repeatedly abused his girlfriend. I'm sure it was innocent as well.

I have no empathy for either.

Party of law and order folks! Some child with an illegal AR-15 can come and shoot willy nilly and if he happens to get someone whose background smells a little funny to you, YAHOO!

Seems like that'll appeal to white women like me who are desperate for some calm, for a while. Yep, I'm super excited for all your little AR-17 teens to show up in my neighborhood while you cheer them on and offer to pay their bail.

m
He wasn’t shooting willy nilly he was shooting at people who were chasing him and assaulting him.

And why were they chasing him?

Hopefully we can separate the truth from the tribal narratives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New York Times actually did their jobs for once

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809?s=12

Tired of people talking out of their a$$es on this

+1. That's a great thread. I don't love the right wing nut jobs who need a gun to go to the grocery store, but I also don't like the social justice warriors making up facts to suit their narratives. Centrism feels lonely these days.

there’s nothing in that thread that changes the fact of armed and organized white militias showing up at protests against police violence against black people. your centrism is not as clear eyed and clever as you think it is.

There IS video of the guy that got shot first being aggressive and saying “shoot me” to the armed guys who were backing away. He wasn’t protesting he was trying to pick a fight. He is on video being held back from charging the guys with guns. Centrist means that you look at things without bias. You can not support stupid gun nuts while also seeing issues with a man charging at people using fighting words and chasing people while literally asking to get shot.

it’s so funny I’m crying that you believe this interpretation is factual because you are a “centrist.”

Nothing from my post is an “interpretation”. It’s all on video.

It’s not “all on video.” There is no video showing what led up to the chase and first shooting.