24 year old wins Republican primary in NC-11 house seat

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't care if he is gay. The problem is if he is AND he legislates/proclaims to be so ANTI-LGBTQ+

The hypocrisy is the problem, NOT the sexuality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly don't care if he is gay. The problem is if he is AND he legislates/proclaims to be so ANTI-LGBTQ+

The hypocrisy is the problem, NOT the sexuality.

Does he? Has this kid actually done any legislating at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly don't care if he is gay. The problem is if he is AND he legislates/proclaims to be so ANTI-LGBTQ+

The hypocrisy is the problem, NOT the sexuality.

Does he? Has this kid actually done any legislating at all?

Has Marjorie 'No committees' Greene? He's still a sitting Congressman with a pulpit he uses every weekend to attend rallies and argue bullcrap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

[Anonymous]

I'm not celebrating any of it. He never should have been elected in the first place. He's a lying liar who lies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

+1 beautifully stated

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Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

+1 I don't give two cr**s about whether he's gay or straight. But I also would prefer that he not be videoing himself humping his cousin's face - and more than that, I don't want to SEE those videos. His cousin is on staff and being paid out of my taxes so that's also just, like, what is happening.

He is a repulsive Nazi who should never have been elected to office and I hope that he is voted out, and that he and his cousin go on to have a very sexy life together in private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

You think sex isn’t an expression of sexual orientation? I really don’t understand this comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

You think sex isn’t an expression of sexual orientation? I really don’t understand this comment.

I saw a whole thread on Twitter last night saying that all bro-y dudes shove their penises in each other's faces and this looked more like that than s**. Not being a man, let alone a bro-y one, I have no idea. At some point I think Occam's razor points in one direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

You think sex isn’t an expression of sexual orientation? I really don’t understand this comment.

I think someone isn’t watched the video! And btw yes men who have sex with men is a recognized (in medicine and public health) category that overlaps with men who are gay but only partially. Plus, at its base this is someone surprising their (sleeping) Cousin with frenetic, naked humping, we’re hardly talking Tom Hanks in Philadelphia here. It’s creepy af and not because said cousin is a boy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

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He’s a Republican, supporting the Republican agenda. If he’s going to be a voting elected member of the party that applauds when other nations murder their LGBTQ+ citizens, the party that thinks baking a wedding cake is the worst thing that ever happened, the party that only pretends to care about Title IX (that they opposed, FTR) in order to trash trans people… Yeah. He’s a hypocrite. I guess if we want to be kind about, maybe he’s self hating, but I don’t let forced birther women off hook just because of a lifetime of misogynist brainwashing.

But Madison Cawthorn is a Nazi and a sexual assaulter, a supporter of the GOP’s attack on America and probably other things I’ve forgotten.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

You think sex isn’t an expression of sexual orientation? I really don’t understand this comment.

I saw a whole thread on Twitter last night saying that all bro-y dudes shove their penises in each other's faces and this looked more like that than s**. Not being a man, let alone a bro-y one, I have no idea. At some point I think Occam's razor points in one direction.

I think a lot of bro-y dudes are admitting to being a lot less straight than they like to present as.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are supposed progressives and liberals attacking and shaming the young man for possibly being gay of bisexual and not yet ready to come out? I thought the progressive liberal mantra was to be open and inclusive and respect the privacy of men and women exploring their sexuality. But you cheer on a smear campaign trying to shame him for being gay. It doesn't mesh with what liberals and progressives claim to stand for. It's a bad look for y'all, not for this kid. A dumb kid I frankly don't give a damn about -- and I'm not sure why anyone here does either, as I doubt anyone from his district posts here.

We're not shaming him for being gay or bi. We are shaming him for his hypocrisy. For doing real damage to LGBTQ+ people while being one of them.

DP. What exactly is the hypocrisy here? As a preface, I loath Madison Cawthorn, so this is not meant as a defense of him personally beyond this limited issue. But personally, I believe sexuality is innate and not a choice, which means Cawthorn did not choose whether or not to be gay. He simply is. Hypocrisy is about conflicting actions - doing one thing for yourself but holding other people to a different standard. Even if Madison Cawthorn has taken anti-gay stances, this would not be hypocrisy based solely on his status as gay. Had Madison Cawthorn ever advocated for criminalizing gay sex? Not that I’m aware of. In fact, in the past he has expressed support for gay marriage rights. So where is the hypocrisy in that?

This isn’t about exposing hypocrisy, it’s about playing on people’s bigotry against LGBTQIA people to try to defeat an election campaign. I would not shed a tear about Cawthorn losing the primary, but if you support gay rights, you should not be celebrating this particular smear tactic at all. When, how and whether someone comes out is their own intensely personal, private business, and no one else should be outing a person against their will without extremely compelling reason (which this isn’t).

I mean ok but let’s not pretend cawthorn humping his unwitting cousin’s face is an expression of his same sex orientation! That was effed up whether it was a male or female COUSIN. (Snd that’s in addition to him being a hypocritical dumb@ss.)

You think sex isn’t an expression of sexual orientation? I really don’t understand this comment.

I saw a whole thread on Twitter last night saying that all bro-y dudes shove their penises in each other's faces and this looked more like that than s**. Not being a man, let alone a bro-y one, I have no idea. At some point I think Occam's razor points in one direction.

I think a lot of bro-y dudes are admitting to being a lot less straight than they like to present as.

That seems right, too! They have these socially acceptable rituals for exploring their attraction to men that also give them cover as being totally straight.

I do now think that MC and his cousin are sexually involved, given everything we've seen. Also, whatever! Be gay! Be bi! Be whatever you are! Just get OUT of Congress!