Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?

[Anonymous]

It's just a league
It's just a league
It's just a league
It's just a league

A Ferrari doesnt make you a race car driver
A basketball doesnt make you a NBA player
A football doesnt make you a NFL player
A DA patch doesnt make you a NT player

Think deeper. Please

[Anonymous]

You folks have lost your minds. If DA is a league then so is ECNL. I couldn't care less which survives but I do know a number of clubs that passed on the DA because of HS. If HS is no longer and issue, then I imagine that those clubs will leave ECNL for the DA.

[Anonymous]

A poor island with no resources are better. Go job USSF and BDA. The future looks bright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You folks have lost your minds. If DA is a league then so is ECNL. I couldn't care less which survives but I do know a number of clubs that passed on the DA because of HS. If HS is no longer and issue, then I imagine that those clubs will leave ECNL for the DA.

You are the type of person that stares someone in the face but doesnt listen.

Why would ECNL switch to DA if DA allowed HS. Please answer. Pretty please

[Anonymous]

I just told you that clubs like Bethesda only passed on DA because of the HS soccer clause. I imagine that Bethesda will join DA since it is already with the Boys DA if soccer were no longer an issue.

I don't really care which survives but I put my money on DAif only due to its affiliation with US Soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just told you that clubs like Bethesda only passed on DA because of the HS soccer clause. I imagine that Bethesda will join DA since it is already with the Boys DA if soccer were no longer an issue.

I don't really care which survives but I put my money on DAif only due to its affiliation with US Soccer.

Bless your heart

[Anonymous]

GDA will never restructure to entertain HS in the way the ecnl does. It would require too much capitulation and rework of their principles to do that so much of this discussion is academic.

[Anonymous]

I'll try responding to the question in a different way.

Generally speaking, clubs joined DA because they thought it would be the top echelon of clubs and players joined mostly because their existing teams were moving to DA but then some joined because they thought 4 days/week, tear-round training would improve their development. After the first year, many clubs and players found the DA-imposed restrictions tiresome. For clubs, it was mostly licensing and instructional demands; for players, its the lack of HS soccer, guest playing, and few other smaller issues. Some clubs left as a result but the keep numbers up, DA got some more clubs to join. These clubs in many cases were not as strong as the clubs that left, which weakened the argument that DA was the clear top echelon. Come the second year, there's been a similar pattern.

Now, if DA were to allow HS soccer to address the attrition of some players, DAs could no longer claim that they are the more serious, year-around program. Instead, clubs would face a simple choice - do we (i) join/stay with a league with burdensome requirements that limit who we can hire and what we can teach, or (ii) join a league with the same (or better) quality of teams that gives us a lot more freedom in how we operate (and with no risk of being kicked out for poor performance)?

It's a no-brainer for the clubs.

[Anonymous]

Clubs passed on the DA for HS and many other reasons. I will say this topic is better than MU and FCV parents telling everyone how great they are and calling ECNL barely above rec. There are 2 platforms. It’s fine. Kids get recruited in both. Kids get called to national teams in both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll try responding to the question in a different way.

Generally speaking, clubs joined DA because they thought it would be the top echelon of clubs and players joined mostly because their existing teams were moving to DA but then some joined because they thought 4 days/week, tear-round training would improve their development. After the first year, many clubs and players found the DA-imposed restrictions tiresome. For clubs, it was mostly licensing and instructional demands; for players, its the lack of HS soccer, guest playing, and few other smaller issues. Some clubs left as a result but the keep numbers up, DA got some more clubs to join. These clubs in many cases were not as strong as the clubs that left, which weakened the argument that DA was the clear top echelon. Come the second year, there's been a similar pattern.

Now, if DA were to allow HS soccer to address the attrition of some players, DAs could no longer claim that they are the more serious, year-around program. Instead, clubs would face a simple choice - do we (i) join/stay with a league with burdensome requirements that limit who we can hire and what we can teach, or (ii) join a league with the same (or better) quality of teams that gives us a lot more freedom in how we operate (and with no risk of being kicked out for poor performance)?

It's a no-brainer for the clubs.

But you get to wear the special patch in the Academy. Isn’t that what this is all about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

DA atlantic conference 05 is a weak conference.

You might be right about that. But what does it say about the 05 ECNL MA if those ECNL teams would comprise the entirety of the bottom of the 05 DA Atlantic conference? Literally the entire bottom.

They wouldn’t. Would be nice if fcv took a break from beating Long Island and spirit and played a local ecnl team. Keep running Bobby and friends...

Hahahahaha

VDA lost to MUSpirit! Literally the next to last team in the division. VDA is too 3 in MA. VDA would be another doormat in DA, just like they were before they left.

Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

VDA beat McLean. Therefore MU is superior to VDA.

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

DA atlantic conference 05 is a weak conference.

You might be right about that. But what does it say about the 05 ECNL MA if those ECNL teams would comprise the entirety of the bottom of the 05 DA Atlantic conference? Literally the entire bottom.

They wouldn’t. Would be nice if fcv took a break from beating Long Island and spirit and played a local ecnl team. Keep running Bobby and friends...

Hahahahaha

VDA lost to MUSpirit! Literally the next to last team in the division. VDA is too 3 in MA. VDA would be another doormat in DA, just like they were before they left.

Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

VDA beat McLean. Therefore MU is superior to VDA.

MU is superior to McLean too*

[Anonymous]

The development of an athlete (human being) is so much more than team and league patch.

Some parents just want to use the patches as justification of their child supremacy. This attitude can be seen in more than just athletics.

[Anonymous]

Nice interview. Discusses the ECNL/DA battle. https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/82559/anson-dorrance-on-the-womens-world-cup-the-usas.html?verified=1

[Anonymous]

I mean, look at these parents arguing over supremacy based on the results of a 1-0 game. Need I say more