To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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Nobody gives a shit about NW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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Sorry to blow your bubble but NW ain’t no elite. Girls flock to elites. NW is known for sexual abuse. That’s the only way they can get girls.

[Anonymous]

^Angry NU hater at it again… yawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Angry NU hater at it again… yawn.

“Yawn” is NW’s nonchalance to NW campus rape culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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Although Columbia probably belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

18 Elites [No Wellesley]:
1 - Harvard [The "Brand" despite its underwhelming campus and undergraduate education]
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton [I would go to Stanford or Yale, if I could get in]
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech [Columbia just outside of the top 5 is still a phenomenal institution with elite plus status in the best city]
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley/Amherst/Williams [only 1 public and 2 SLACs deserve elite status]

Just missed the cut: Swathmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd

Stanford and MIT should be in a tier of their own since they have global recognition that Yale and Princeton lacks.

I would still put Columbia in the Yale/Princeton tier. I think most would agree that Columbia's in between the two tiers, but it's closer to Yale and Princeton. Just as there's no reason to cut out 3 schools from this list to say that the top 15 schools are elite, having a top 5 is sort of an arbitrary cutoff.

1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/MIT
4 - Yale/Princeton/Columbia
7 - Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkeley/Amherst/Williams

You're just parroting US News ranking. You offer nothing insightful.

Agree.
1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley

I agree w this

[Anonymous]

Harvard isn’t nearly as admired as some people here seem to think.

https://twitter.com/andrewdlewis/status/1463822763148201985?s=21

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

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Although Columbia probably belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

+5 Possibly. Columbia does have some upward momentum and has cachet as the hip, urban, NYC Ivy. The WASPish unabashed elitism that defines Princeton’s brand has fallen out of vogue in recent decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard isn’t nearly as admired as some people here seem to think.

https://twitter.com/andrewdlewis/status/1463822763148201985?s=21

Andrew Lewis
@AndrewDLewis
Harvard has a lower incoming HS GPA than UCLA.

60% of their admits are Legacy.

Once in, they use grade inflation to pad grades (UCLA uses grade deflation).

UCLA is still most applied to Uni in the world + 1/3rd of admit students being first-Gen.

Don’t buy into the Ivy ‘hype’.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

+1

+2

+3

+4

Although Columbia probably belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

+5 Possibly. Columbia does have some upward momentum and has cachet as the hip, urban, NYC Ivy. The WASPish unabashed elitism that defines Princeton’s brand has fallen out of vogue in recent decades.

The Princeton admission rate was 3.98% last year (lower than Yale) and 68% of the admits were POC. Their brand seems to be adapting and holding up just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

+1

+2

+3

+4

Although Columbia probably belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

+5 Possibly. Columbia does have some upward momentum and has cachet as the hip, urban, NYC Ivy. The WASPish unabashed elitism that defines Princeton’s brand has fallen out of vogue in recent decades.

+6. Princeton is making an effort to get rid of this WASPy brand that is outdated to say the least, but the social presence of selective and elitist eating clubs is still a problem. Of course I’m sure that Princeton will find a way to make a middle ground between its inclusive efforts and preserving the camaraderie that the historical eating clubs have fostered for its alumni.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d put Wellesley back in. Elite people have heard of elite schools. Hillary gave it a boost.

18 Elites [No Wellesley]:
1 - Harvard [The "Brand" despite its underwhelming campus and undergraduate education]
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton [I would go to Stanford or Yale, if I could get in]
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech [Columbia just outside of the top 5 is still a phenomenal institution with elite plus status in the best city]
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley/Amherst/Williams [only 1 public and 2 SLACs deserve elite status]

Just missed the cut: Swathmore, Pomona, Harvey Mudd

Stanford and MIT should be in a tier of their own since they have global recognition that Yale and Princeton lacks.

I would still put Columbia in the Yale/Princeton tier. I think most would agree that Columbia's in between the two tiers, but it's closer to Yale and Princeton. Just as there's no reason to cut out 3 schools from this list to say that the top 15 schools are elite, having a top 5 is sort of an arbitrary cutoff.

1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/MIT
4 - Yale/Princeton/Columbia
7 - Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkeley/Amherst/Williams

You're just parroting US News ranking. You offer nothing insightful.

Agree.
1 - Harvard
2 - Stanford/Yale/MIT/Princeton
6 - Columbia/Penn/Caltech
9 - Chicago/Duke/Northwestern
12 - Dartmouth/Brown/Cornell/Hopkins/Berkley

I agree w this

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton/Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern

^That’s the definitive T10 in my mind. Caltech is a fantastic school but way too small and way too niche, and not socially elite.

+1

+2

+3

+4

Although Columbia probably belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

Columbia definitely belongs in a tier of its own below Princeton

Harvard/Yale/Stanford/MIT
Princeton
Columbia
Chicago/Penn
Duke/Northwestern