Cop Suspended After Video Emerges Of Brutal Arrests At Teen Pool Party (In McKinney Texas)

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the teenagers hurt?

What would you like to see happen here? Career over for cop? Lawsuits? Riots?

WTF. The girl was hurt. Would you like for the someone to pull you around by your hair, throw you to the ground, knee you in the back, and then pass you on to a strange fat man to hold his your head between his sweaty thighs? Riots, absolutely not! Career over for cop, absolutely. He does not display the mental attributes to have such enormous power. Lawsuits are not an issue. The city will negotiate a quick and confidential settlement. Her college is paid for as of the time the officer displayed his mental illness.

Would you rather be Tasered?

The teen got a lucky pass.

Getting your ass beat is not a lucky pass. The hell is wrong with you?

No one got their ass beat, by any stretch. I agree it was excessive. Let's not make up our own facts here.

How many times have you been slammed face down to the ground, followed up with a knee to the back? Geese, what do you consider a beating?

Someone repeatedly beating you or kicking you, causing you bodily harm. Being restrained by a police officer is not getting your ass beat, unless it went all "Rodney King"

You do not have to go all Rodney King to get a beating. You are very extreme, are you not. Maybe you like the rough stuff, but if someone grabbed me by the hair in malice and threw me face down into the ground, that's a beating. That child endured bodily harm. Do you require broken bones, ribs, black eyes before you consider it a beating?

If she is resisting, she is going to be restrained.

"Resisting" as she was walking away?

She got mouthy and he didn't like it so he grabbed her. Her resisting didn't happen until she was grabbed, pinned, and then passed off to the fat guy.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the teenagers hurt?

What would you like to see happen here? Career over for cop? Lawsuits? Riots?

WTF. The girl was hurt. Would you like for the someone to pull you around by your hair, throw you to the ground, knee you in the back, and then pass you on to a strange fat man to hold his your head between his sweaty thighs? Riots, absolutely not! Career over for cop, absolutely. He does not display the mental attributes to have such enormous power. Lawsuits are not an issue. The city will negotiate a quick and confidential settlement. Her college is paid for as of the time the officer displayed his mental illness.

Would you rather be Tasered?

The teen got a lucky pass.

Getting your ass beat is not a lucky pass. The hell is wrong with you?

No one got their ass beat, by any stretch. I agree it was excessive. Let's not make up our own facts here.

How many times have you been slammed face down to the ground, followed up with a knee to the back? Geese, what do you consider a beating?

Someone repeatedly beating you or kicking you, causing you bodily harm. Being restrained by a police officer is not getting your ass beat, unless it went all "Rodney King"

You do not have to go all Rodney King to get a beating. You are very extreme, are you not. Maybe you like the rough stuff, but if someone grabbed me by the hair in malice and threw me face down into the ground, that's a beating. That child endured bodily harm. Do you require broken bones, ribs, black eyes before you consider it a beating?

If she is resisting, she is going to be restrained.

"Resisting" as she was walking away?

She got mouthy and he didn't like it so he grabbed her. Her resisting didn't happen until she was grabbed, pinned, and then passed off to the fat guy.

You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

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Anonymous wrote:Were any of the teenagers hurt?

What would you like to see happen here? Career over for cop? Lawsuits? Riots?

WTF. The girl was hurt. Would you like for the someone to pull you around by your hair, throw you to the ground, knee you in the back, and then pass you on to a strange fat man to hold his your head between his sweaty thighs? Riots, absolutely not! Career over for cop, absolutely. He does not display the mental attributes to have such enormous power. Lawsuits are not an issue. The city will negotiate a quick and confidential settlement. Her college is paid for as of the time the officer displayed his mental illness.

Would you rather be Tasered?

The teen got a lucky pass.

Getting your ass beat is not a lucky pass. The hell is wrong with you?

No one got their ass beat, by any stretch. I agree it was excessive. Let's not make up our own facts here.

How many times have you been slammed face down to the ground, followed up with a knee to the back? Geese, what do you consider a beating?

Someone repeatedly beating you or kicking you, causing you bodily harm. Being restrained by a police officer is not getting your ass beat, unless it went all "Rodney King"

You do not have to go all Rodney King to get a beating. You are very extreme, are you not. Maybe you like the rough stuff, but if someone grabbed me by the hair in malice and threw me face down into the ground, that's a beating. That child endured bodily harm. Do you require broken bones, ribs, black eyes before you consider it a beating?

If she is resisting, she is going to be restrained.

Another PP here. You have had two PP's married to police officers post and BOTH of their husbands said this particular officer handled the situation improperly on more than one front. Not saying that should carry the day, but I would have thought that people would look at the situation through a more open mind "hey, if a couple police officers thought this guy was over the top, maybe he was." Nope, you guys are sticking to your "the officer is always right" mantra. It is not even about race with me anymore, the officer f*cked up. Folks should just admit it. It was a party that got out of hand and the police were called to disperse. Happens all the time without incident! Why is this so different? The actions of the officer. Hell, Texas is an open carry state. Everyone involved is VERY fortunate that he was the only idiot to pull a gun.

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/09/us/mckinney-texas-pool-party-video/

Interview with the 14 year old. Apologies if this has been posted, hard to follow this thread at times, it moves quickly.

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There is a such thing as free speech. You can't assault someone because they get mouthy with you. Cops don't get special privileges with this either.

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Another PP here. You have had two PP's married to police officers post and BOTH of their husbands said this particular officer handled the situation improperly on more than one front. Not saying that should carry the day, but I would have thought that people would look at the situation through a more open mind "hey, if a couple police officers thought this guy was over the top, maybe he was." Nope, you guys are sticking to your "the officer is always right" mantra. It is not even about race with me anymore, the officer f*cked up. Folks should just admit it. It was a party that got out of hand and the police were called to disperse. Happens all the time without incident! Why is this so different? The actions of the officer. Hell, Texas is an open carry state. Everyone involved is VERY fortunate that he was the only idiot to pull a gun.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Were any of the teenagers hurt?

What would you like to see happen here? Career over for cop? Lawsuits? Riots?

WTF. The girl was hurt. Would you like for the someone to pull you around by your hair, throw you to the ground, knee you in the back, and then pass you on to a strange fat man to hold his your head between his sweaty thighs? Riots, absolutely not! Career over for cop, absolutely. He does not display the mental attributes to have such enormous power. Lawsuits are not an issue. The city will negotiate a quick and confidential settlement. Her college is paid for as of the time the officer displayed his mental illness.

Would you rather be Tasered?

The teen got a lucky pass.

Getting your ass beat is not a lucky pass. The hell is wrong with you?

No one got their ass beat, by any stretch. I agree it was excessive. Let's not make up our own facts here.

How many times have you been slammed face down to the ground, followed up with a knee to the back? Geese, what do you consider a beating?

Someone repeatedly beating you or kicking you, causing you bodily harm. Being restrained by a police officer is not getting your ass beat, unless it went all "Rodney King"

You do not have to go all Rodney King to get a beating. You are very extreme, are you not. Maybe you like the rough stuff, but if someone grabbed me by the hair in malice and threw me face down into the ground, that's a beating. That child endured bodily harm. Do you require broken bones, ribs, black eyes before you consider it a beating?

If she is resisting, she is going to be restrained.

"Resisting" as she was walking away?

She got mouthy and he didn't like it so he grabbed her. Her resisting didn't happen until she was grabbed, pinned, and then passed off to the fat guy.

You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

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Another PP here. You have had two PP's married to police officers post and BOTH of their husbands said this particular officer handled the situation improperly on more than one front. Not saying that should carry the day, but I would have thought that people would look at the situation through a more open mind "hey, if a couple police officers thought this guy was over the top, maybe he was." Nope, you guys are sticking to your "the officer is always right" mantra. It is not even about race with me anymore, the officer f*cked up. Folks should just admit it. It was a party that got out of hand and the police were called to disperse. Happens all the time without incident! Why is this so different? The actions of the officer. Hell, Texas is an open carry state. Everyone involved is VERY fortunate that he was the only idiot to pull a gun.

Right...the two PPs are lying to prove a point on an anon forum. LOL!

Well, if you do not believe them, look at how the officers with Deputy Dawg reacted. Did they act as if he was handling things well? LOL

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Were any of the teenagers hurt?

What would you like to see happen here? Career over for cop? Lawsuits? Riots?

WTF. The girl was hurt. Would you like for the someone to pull you around by your hair, throw you to the ground, knee you in the back, and then pass you on to a strange fat man to hold his your head between his sweaty thighs? Riots, absolutely not! Career over for cop, absolutely. He does not display the mental attributes to have such enormous power. Lawsuits are not an issue. The city will negotiate a quick and confidential settlement. Her college is paid for as of the time the officer displayed his mental illness.

Would you rather be Tasered?

The teen got a lucky pass.

Getting your ass beat is not a lucky pass. The hell is wrong with you?

No one got their ass beat, by any stretch. I agree it was excessive. Let's not make up our own facts here.

How many times have you been slammed face down to the ground, followed up with a knee to the back? Geese, what do you consider a beating?

Someone repeatedly beating you or kicking you, causing you bodily harm. Being restrained by a police officer is not getting your ass beat, unless it went all "Rodney King"

You do not have to go all Rodney King to get a beating. You are very extreme, are you not. Maybe you like the rough stuff, but if someone grabbed me by the hair in malice and threw me face down into the ground, that's a beating. That child endured bodily harm. Do you require broken bones, ribs, black eyes before you consider it a beating?

If she is resisting, she is going to be restrained.

"Resisting" as she was walking away?

She got mouthy and he didn't like it so he grabbed her. Her resisting didn't happen until she was grabbed, pinned, and then passed off to the fat guy.

You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Of course you "really shouldn't." We agree on that. What we don't agree on is that the punishment for being mouthy is having your hair grabbed and being subdued. Watch the video as Officer loses his cool, starts yelling at them to "Get your asses gone" etc., then he goes after her as she's walking away.

Fact is, this cop is not qualified to do his job if he can't handle the community he is supposed to serve. He is an adult;she is not. We pay him to "serve" us, not make the situation more chaotic.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Another PP here. You have had two PP's married to police officers post and BOTH of their husbands said this particular officer handled the situation improperly on more than one front. Not saying that should carry the day, but I would have thought that people would look at the situation through a more open mind "hey, if a couple police officers thought this guy was over the top, maybe he was." Nope, you guys are sticking to your "the officer is always right" mantra. It is not even about race with me anymore, the officer f*cked up. Folks should just admit it. It was a party that got out of hand and the police were called to disperse. Happens all the time without incident! Why is this so different? The actions of the officer. Hell, Texas is an open carry state. Everyone involved is VERY fortunate that he was the only idiot to pull a gun.

Right...the two PPs are lying to prove a point on an anon forum. LOL!

Well, if you do not believe them, look at how the officers with Deputy Dawg reacted. Did they act as if he was handling things well? LOL

NP - I think that actually happens quite a lot.

No opinion on the two posters married to LEOs though.

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

In McLean, va?

My son was not invited to a party and he asked his friend why. He said, because his Hispanic parent "don't trust white people, no white kids are invited". My son said,that is not okay with me, I am your friend, you should tell your parents it's your party and invite me. They did,it was awkward, but a step in the right direction.

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You really shouldn't get mouthy with a cop. Ever try that with a speeding ticket?

Well, it is not illegal to do so and it does not warrant being forcibly restrained - IF the officer is doing his job right. See, you want to say the girl got slammed because she mouthed off. But slamming her is NOT a legal response to her mouthing. So even if you say the 14YO was wrong...what does that make the profesionally trained officer?

I didn't say it was illegal. It isn't a good idea though, especially in a highly chaotic scene like that.

I've taught my children to be respectful (to everyone) and to always obey/follow orders from the police and emergency personel. If the police were in the wrong our lawyer can sort it out later.

Better that then injured in the chaos, beaten, tasered or dead.

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Langley Swim and Tennis community pool. I asked my daughter again, what exactly was said to her. She said "Becky" said to her "Larla, I'm not sure you should come to my party on Wednesday because I wouldn't want happened in Texas to happen to my party. My daughter says "What happened in Texas?" Friend says "You haven't seen the video on the news, it all over the internet?" My daughter then has to remind Becky that she doesn't get to watch TV during the week and has limited access to internet. Becky says " Some Black kids went to a swim party at a community pool and someone called the police because they weren't supposed to be there. I've never seen any other black kids at our community pool, so I'm unsure if you should come. I"ll ask my mom and call you tonight." My daughter then says "OOOKAYYYY, uh maybe I shouldn't come, I'll have to ask my mom too."

I think my daughter left out some things from the conversation but she was still seriously concerned that she shouldn't go to the party. I then showed her the video of what happened. And Becky has not called as of yet to say whether or not she still is invited. If Becky has not called by 7pm, I am calling Becky's mom for clarification.

On behalf of the white people, please apologize to your daughter for being treated so disrespectfully. If I found out my "Becky" behaved so atrociously, I'd sure punish her by canceling her party in it's entirety.

Okay, now I don't know what to do. I work really hard at not being characterized as an "Angry Black Woman", so I really had to hold my tongue.

I called Becky's mom. Said our usual pleasantries, discussed summer plans and all that. I then say "Susie, Larla was talking to Becky about the swim party on Wednesday and she seems to have some concerns." Before I could any further, Susie says "Yeah, I know. Becky doesn't want folks at the pool to be concerned about Larla being there. You know with all this stuff going on in the media, I too am concerned. So I don't know." I was speechless and really didn't know what to say for a moment. I was really trying to measure my response. I say "Susie, I really don't know what to say, is Larla invited or not? Honestly its' not a big deal you know, because we have a pool. Larla and Becky have been good friends for a couple of years and I would hate for this to come between them or us. Larla was really surprised that Becky didn't know if she could come to the party because she is black. Do you think members of your club would cause problems for my daughter? She says flatly "I don't know". I say "Are there any other black members?" She says "I'm sure there are, but we haven't seen any at the pool since I've been a member." I then say "Susie, I appreciate the invite, but Larla won't be coming. You all have a great summer and I hope Becky has a nice party. Thanks." I hung up.

I told my little Larla she would not be going to the party, she was disappointed. I told her she could have a few friends over to our private home pool over the weekend if she wanted. She then asks if she should/could invite Becky? I say I don't know, I'll have to ask DH. My DD likes Becky, I like her too. But I don't if I can allow this friendship to continue because it appears that neither Susie or Becky would stand up for my DD if in their presence some racist $hit went down.

I'm just speechless. These are the really difficult conversations we have to have.

Honestly, if it went down like this, it would be appropriate for you to cut ties with that family. If this woman does not have the moral backbone to invite your daughter and stand up to anyone who would question your daughter's invitation, then you do not need her in your life. She is more concerned about appearances than being a friend or even a decent human being. Hell, I would have underscored your daughter's invite and I would dare anyone to say a word to me at the party. If she does not the moral sense to see that this not the same situation, then that is her failing. So I agree that you should not let her go - but if anyone asks me why my daughter did not attend the party, I would answer openly and honestly.