War with Iran Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Lebanon is about Iran showboating to the Arab states that they are the real protector of Arab states against Israeli aggression. It’s a way to embarrass the gulf states.

All of that oil, all of that money but zero leverage or powerbrokers that can challenge Zionist/Us hegemony and aggression in the region.

The governments in Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are the biggest losers in this war. They gained nothing but humiliation and embarrassment from Iran, Donald Trump, Israel, Kushner.

Regional winners Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syria. Israel and US neoconzoinists are living in Jan 2026. April 2026 is a much different world thanks to Mr Trump.

Let’s face it. Iran’s demands are for the most part facts on the ground. Unless you want to invade Iran you can not change any of it.

Israel is very lucky Iran is not requiring Israel to give up it nuclear weapons, enriched material, long range struck missiles, etc. it would be only fair for Iran to demand the same that Israel has demanded of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lebanon is about Iran showboating to the Arab states that they are the real protector of Arab states against Israeli aggression. It’s a way to embarrass the gulf states.

All of that oil, all of that money but zero leverage or powerbrokers that can challenge Zionist/Us hegemony and aggression in the region.

The governments in Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are the biggest losers in this war. They gained nothing but humiliation and embarrassment from Iran, Donald Trump, Israel, Kushner.

Regional winners Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syria. Israel and US neoconzoinists are living in Jan 2026. April 2026 is a much different world thanks to Mr Trump.

Let’s face it. Iran’s demands are for the most part facts on the ground. Unless you want to invade Iran you can not change any of it.

Israel is very lucky Iran is not requiring Israel to give up it nuclear weapons, enriched material, long range struck missiles, etc. it would be only fair for Iran to demand the same that Israel has demanded of them.

How is Iraq and Syria winning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP:

15 min ago
JUST IN: Israel says it detects an incoming Iranian missile barrage despite US, Iran saying 2-week ceasefire reached

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If Iran leaders say the cease fire is Iran-US (+Horzmuz) only, that would be ttr funniest thing ever.

I mean, Israel is still bombing Beirut, so why can't Iran bomb Israel, being in agreement with US?

Israel’s done this all the time every decade or so going back to 1982 and each time they lost. They believe the key to getting rid of Hezbollah is regime change in Iran but I’m not so sure that’s the case. There’s no moderation when your house is destroyed and your wife and kids are burned to a crisp. Iran and the IRGc can be nuked to glass tomorrow and that won’t “end” Hezbollah.

Hezbollah was created as a result of the 1982 invasion and occupation of Lebanon. Israel needs to address the cause of the problem- the stolen Palestinian lands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lebanon is about Iran showboating to the Arab states that they are the real protector of Arab states against Israeli aggression. It’s a way to embarrass the gulf states.

All of that oil, all of that money but zero leverage or powerbrokers that can challenge Zionist/Us hegemony and aggression in the region.

The governments in Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar are the biggest losers in this war. They gained nothing but humiliation and embarrassment from Iran, Donald Trump, Israel, Kushner.

Regional winners Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syria. Israel and US neoconzoinists are living in Jan 2026. April 2026 is a much different world thanks to Mr Trump.

Let’s face it. Iran’s demands are for the most part facts on the ground. Unless you want to invade Iran you can not change any of it.

Israel is very lucky Iran is not requiring Israel to give up it nuclear weapons, enriched material, long range struck missiles, etc. it would be only fair for Iran to demand the same that Israel has demanded of them.

How is Iraq and Syria winning?

Iraq has avoid war, has its oil infrastructure intact, sided with the winner and is slowly regaining its power in the region. Syria is free of Israeli failed state policy with the backing of Turkey. It will regain its power in the region. All these things are bad for Israel.

[Anonymous]

What is even the point of negotiating with Trump if he cannot reign in his Zionist overlords? This war will go on so long as they control our government

[Anonymous]

Barack Obama’s 2015 nuclear deal didn’t give Iran control of the Strait of Hormuz or allow it to keep 60% enriched uranium. It sent $1.7 billion of its own money to Iran versus the tens of billions Iran will now make from tolls.

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Anonymous wrote:Barack Obama’s 2015 nuclear deal didn’t give Iran control of the Strait of Hormuz or allow it to keep 60% enriched uranium. It sent $1.7 billion of its own money to Iran versus the tens of billions Iran will now make from tolls.

But Trump will probably will get a cut so it’s a great deal. /s

[Anonymous]

“Israel’s security is America’s security”: this maxim is true, but not in the way that it is typically meant by American policymakers. Israel has become the model of impunity to follow, the prodigal son that has been raised up past the image of its father. Its spectacular violence has subdued its regional rivals for now; but military dominance eventually provokes resistance from within and from without. In time, Israel’s insecurity may well become America’s insecurity as well.

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Anonymous wrote:The Iran–U.S. Ceasefire terms are clear and explicit: the U.S. must choose—ceasefire or continued war via Israel. It cannot have both.

The world sees the massacres in Lebanon. The ball is in the U.S. court, and the world is watching whether it will act on its commitments.

Re-posting this so everyone in Washington can read cease fire the terms that were agreed to by our elected leader less that 12 hours before Israel chose to attack the Lebanese people in their homes today ( 260 civilians dead so far and and thousands more with potentially life threatening wounds: exploding bullets in the soft tissue of children and women, etc.. - just like the 73,000 murdered people in Gaza ) This is our tax money at work, America. Remember the shame of that and the destruction of our country's reputation in the world when you are in the voting booth in November.

Here is some coverage of Israel's war crimes carried out at 2pm today Beirut time ( the bombs, of course, were made in USA and given to Israel ): https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/8/iran-war-live-trump-announces-truce-tehran-agrees-safe-transit-in-hormuz

Remember, in joining Israel ( lead by Jewish supremacists Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Katz and Smotrich, Trump is only doing what he promised his donors : Adelman, Ackman, Lauder, Steve Wynn ( stein) : " vote for me, I will protect Israel" " Vote for me, " will avenge Israel" . He never said he would protect America or a our constitution. He swore allegiance to Israel and he did it because , without those donors he would lose the election and likely be convicted in his trials.

Meanwhile, in the service of Israel what has Trump done for America:

1) withdrawn billions in research funding from our best Universities ( because they allowed criticism of Israel )
2) placed masked DHS agents on our streets to force disappear US residents ( using Spyware developed by Israel and sold to DHS to locate them - a 4th Amend violation demanded by AIPAC and Trump's AIPAC donors
3) began a war with Iran at the behest of Israel and at the demand of AIPAC donors in which 45 million people world wide were put at risk for starvation d/t the closure of Hormuz straight and loss of fertilizer, economies in Asia stand to contract 4-6 percent, trillions of wealth erased in a matter of weeks , political uprising ensuing in Philippines, Maylasia and other potential places all for what: so that Israel can carry out it's genocide against ALL of their neighbors ( Palestinians, the Lebanese, The Iranians )
4) the destruction of America's reputation in the world, the end of NATO, the shift towards alliance with China and Russia... all of that was done by Trump to serve Israel and his AIPAC donors.

Remember this for the next 7 months and VOTE against ANY American politician who takes a dime from AIPAC. BDS Israel and enforce the crimianl arrest warrant on Netanyahu, Katz and Ben Gvir- men who assassinate elected leaders in their sleep should not be walking among us

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barack Obama’s 2015 nuclear deal didn’t give Iran control of the Strait of Hormuz or allow it to keep 60% enriched uranium. It sent $1.7 billion of its own money to Iran versus the tens of billions Iran will now make from tolls.

But Trump will probably will get a cut so it’s a great deal. /s

Will say he is getting a cut!

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JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ahe4es2n

JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

I mean, they attacked Iran without a plan for the closure of Hormuz. They didn't even think it up as a possible scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is sooooo much worse

- we've solved the artificial crisis we created
- at least 13 American servicemembera KIA to say nothing of unknown WIA
- Hormuz no longer free to transit ($2M/ship)
- Iran gets $$$ and benefits from taking the strait
- Iran assumes they can keep their uranium and enrich it

Do NOT believe the shit other people are posting. They are pulling it off social media from Iran’s talking points. It is false.

DP. True, but this entire forum has been full of this crap since the war started. Tons of trolls pushing idiotic social media garbage, much of it Iranian propaganda.

Good thing that the COB helped Iran have a perpetual cash-flow machine!

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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ahe4es2n

JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.