Biden weighing whether to drop out

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Trump isn’t in a courtroom, will see what the voters think as he continues on his tirades. Every time he speaks and tweets he reminds voters of how unhinged he is.

Did you actually watch the debate? It was reassuring how surprisingly composed he was, while Joe was committing public suicide.

I did. I also watch Trump, from 2016 all the way through now. You are going to tell me he is sane and not unhinged?

Any argument you could have made about not voting for Turnip because he wasn't sane and is unhinged flew out the window when it turned out Joe Biden is, well, not sane and a bit unhinged himself.

Yeah, no. Trump wants to totally subvert democracy and the right wing that is supporting him has a comprehensive plan to do it. They’ve already tried to overturn elections, overthrow the government and have thrown decades of precedent into the garbage. He’s a rapist and a convicted felon.

Biden is old. Trump is as old and has actual dementia.

What is subverting democracy? Pushing a senile old man with dementia for the presidency while pretending and gaslighting everyone that he's sharp as a tack? While the real decisions are made by a small circle of unelected advisors and family members? Is this what we mean by democracy?

Presidents always have advisors they rely on. There have been periods of time, most recently Ronald Reagan, when the president may not have been fully in charge. I don't see that with Biden, but clearly you do. But still, at the end of the day, allowing Trump into the White House means an alliance with Russia at the expense of NATO, the end of women managing their bodies, round-ups of brown people, "liberals" and anyone else that isn't the favored class.

Alexi Navalny is what you get when you have authoritarianism.

I'll take a bag of rocks before I accept that kind of tyranny in our country.

Yes. Advisors that they rely on. NOT advisors that are running the show. NOT advisors who make the decisions.

And, since you brought up Reagan......

Compare Reagan's final press conference of his presidency.... just a little over a month before he left office..... to any press conference by Biden.
There is no comparison. Reagan is in full command of the issues and can answer questions from any reporter - not just preselected ones.

What we have now with Biden's presidency is pure tyranny by unelected bureaucrats.

Tyranny? You're equal parts clown and drama queen. Even fellow MAGA on this board aren't taking you seriously. Just go hide in your bathroom from all this tyranny you're imagining. Maybe you're already there...

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Anonymous wrote:I love Joe Biden and think he’s a great president, and I also trust him to do the right thing for the country, like he has always done. He’ll probably endorse Harris shortly. We can’t do this for weeks, we don’t have weeks, and unless he’s prepared to get out on the trail and work like a much younger man, he can’t recover from all of this. I expected a much more aggressive posture this week after the debate, didn’t get it. Maybe he knows he’s not up for it.

Because the dirty secret, which is obvious to people who aren't hardcore partisans, is that Joe Biden is not terribly bright and has a big ego. Second to last place in his law school class, he was a third rate senator from a safe seat who lucked into the VP slot because Obama wanted a court jester who'd always make him look good by comparison (never forget what Obama said about Biden). Biden has a long history of boastful lies and making up stories about himself and his accomplishments. He certainly has an ego. People who hunger for the throne don't make it without an ego. And once you have the power, it's devilishly hard to give it up. All the media talk about how he's as sharp as tack are blatantly lies as we now know.

Then add to it that his family must be terrified of the prospects of a Trump DOJ getting investigative powers.

I don't know what he will do or what the Democrats will do. But no one is coming out smelling of roses, either the party or Biden, and the election is pretty much lost now. You don't lie to the American public for years like this and get away with it.

You're not wrong, but your picture lacks perspective.


You're forgetting that we've had dumb and incompetent Presidents in the past, and that none of them have been as incompetent for the job, and habitual liars, like Trump. Bush Junior and Biden, the two most recent dummies, both tried their best. W. Bush made catastrophic mistakes in the Gulf, and US actions there are tantamount to war crimes. Biden has done less damage in the world, in terms of starting wars we can't stop that lead to decades of Jihad terrorism, than the Bushes. Trump is so mentally diseased that he cannot stop lying, and cannot understand that the job means putting the country before himself. He is so insecure that he has to continually aggrandize himself in the most cringeworthy and pathological way. Also, he can't read. His daily briefings were turned into color charts and graphs. He's the WORST President.

All this to say, Americans have a lot of hubris but their Presidents are often not all that. And yet they get elected!

Kamala Harris doesn't need to be the BEST. She's already way better than Bush, Biden and Carter. Maybe she's not the Obama you're looking for. But she'll do.

Nicely put. Harris will do just fine. More importantly, she can pull us out of the geriatric tailspin we’re in.

Rests on the flawed assumption that Harris can carry swing states in which Biden was already trailing Trump before the debate.

Swing states weren't going for Trump. They just weren't going for Biden.

This is delusional coping. Trump has solid leads in most of the swing states. How do you define that as not going for Trump? You could make the argume that the last time they weren't going for Biden, they just weren't going for Trump.

Trump continued to lose 15-20% of the vote to Haley months after she dropped out. She is now "barebones supporting" him (i.e., she's not out there pounding the table) to make sure she's positioned for 2028. The cope is thinking there is some overwhelming mandate to vote Trump into office. That doesn't exist.

Many of those were open primaries where strong Dems crossed over to vote for Haley in an effort to undermine Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Joe Biden and think he’s a great president, and I also trust him to do the right thing for the country, like he has always done. He’ll probably endorse Harris shortly. We can’t do this for weeks, we don’t have weeks, and unless he’s prepared to get out on the trail and work like a much younger man, he can’t recover from all of this. I expected a much more aggressive posture this week after the debate, didn’t get it. Maybe he knows he’s not up for it.

Because the dirty secret, which is obvious to people who aren't hardcore partisans, is that Joe Biden is not terribly bright and has a big ego. Second to last place in his law school class, he was a third rate senator from a safe seat who lucked into the VP slot because Obama wanted a court jester who'd always make him look good by comparison (never forget what Obama said about Biden). Biden has a long history of boastful lies and making up stories about himself and his accomplishments. He certainly has an ego. People who hunger for the throne don't make it without an ego. And once you have the power, it's devilishly hard to give it up. All the media talk about how he's as sharp as tack are blatantly lies as we now know.

Then add to it that his family must be terrified of the prospects of a Trump DOJ getting investigative powers.

I don't know what he will do or what the Democrats will do. But no one is coming out smelling of roses, either the party or Biden, and the election is pretty much lost now. You don't lie to the American public for years like this and get away with it.

You're not wrong, but your picture lacks perspective.


You're forgetting that we've had dumb and incompetent Presidents in the past, and that none of them have been as incompetent for the job, and habitual liars, like Trump. Bush Junior and Biden, the two most recent dummies, both tried their best. W. Bush made catastrophic mistakes in the Gulf, and US actions there are tantamount to war crimes. Biden has done less damage in the world, in terms of starting wars we can't stop that lead to decades of Jihad terrorism, than the Bushes. Trump is so mentally diseased that he cannot stop lying, and cannot understand that the job means putting the country before himself. He is so insecure that he has to continually aggrandize himself in the most cringeworthy and pathological way. Also, he can't read. His daily briefings were turned into color charts and graphs. He's the WORST President.

All this to say, Americans have a lot of hubris but their Presidents are often not all that. And yet they get elected!

Kamala Harris doesn't need to be the BEST. She's already way better than Bush, Biden and Carter. Maybe she's not the Obama you're looking for. But she'll do.

Nicely put. Harris will do just fine. More importantly, she can pull us out of the geriatric tailspin we’re in.

Rests on the flawed assumption that Harris can carry swing states in which Biden was already trailing Trump before the debate.

Swing states weren't going for Trump. They just weren't going for Biden.

This is delusional coping. Trump has solid leads in most of the swing states. How do you define that as not going for Trump? You could make the argume that the last time they weren't going for Biden, they just weren't going for Trump.

Trump continued to lose 15-20% of the vote to Haley months after she dropped out. She is now "barebones supporting" him (i.e., she's not out there pounding the table) to make sure she's positioned for 2028. The cope is thinking there is some overwhelming mandate to vote Trump into office. That doesn't exist.

Many of those were open primaries where strong Dems crossed over to vote for Haley in an effort to undermine Trump.

Most of those primaries were party affiliation only and did not have crossover votes. There are other avenues for you to gaslight, though.

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Anonymous wrote:I love Joe Biden and think he’s a great president, and I also trust him to do the right thing for the country, like he has always done. He’ll probably endorse Harris shortly. We can’t do this for weeks, we don’t have weeks, and unless he’s prepared to get out on the trail and work like a much younger man, he can’t recover from all of this. I expected a much more aggressive posture this week after the debate, didn’t get it. Maybe he knows he’s not up for it.

Because the dirty secret, which is obvious to people who aren't hardcore partisans, is that Joe Biden is not terribly bright and has a big ego. Second to last place in his law school class, he was a third rate senator from a safe seat who lucked into the VP slot because Obama wanted a court jester who'd always make him look good by comparison (never forget what Obama said about Biden). Biden has a long history of boastful lies and making up stories about himself and his accomplishments. He certainly has an ego. People who hunger for the throne don't make it without an ego. And once you have the power, it's devilishly hard to give it up. All the media talk about how he's as sharp as tack are blatantly lies as we now know.

Then add to it that his family must be terrified of the prospects of a Trump DOJ getting investigative powers.

I don't know what he will do or what the Democrats will do. But no one is coming out smelling of roses, either the party or Biden, and the election is pretty much lost now. You don't lie to the American public for years like this and get away with it.

You're not wrong, but your picture lacks perspective.


You're forgetting that we've had dumb and incompetent Presidents in the past, and that none of them have been as incompetent for the job, and habitual liars, like Trump. Bush Junior and Biden, the two most recent dummies, both tried their best. W. Bush made catastrophic mistakes in the Gulf, and US actions there are tantamount to war crimes. Biden has done less damage in the world, in terms of starting wars we can't stop that lead to decades of Jihad terrorism, than the Bushes. Trump is so mentally diseased that he cannot stop lying, and cannot understand that the job means putting the country before himself. He is so insecure that he has to continually aggrandize himself in the most cringeworthy and pathological way. Also, he can't read. His daily briefings were turned into color charts and graphs. He's the WORST President.

All this to say, Americans have a lot of hubris but their Presidents are often not all that. And yet they get elected!

Kamala Harris doesn't need to be the BEST. She's already way better than Bush, Biden and Carter. Maybe she's not the Obama you're looking for. But she'll do.

Nicely put. Harris will do just fine. More importantly, she can pull us out of the geriatric tailspin we’re in.

Rests on the flawed assumption that Harris can carry swing states in which Biden was already trailing Trump before the debate.

Swing states weren't going for Trump. They just weren't going for Biden.

This is delusional coping. Trump has solid leads in most of the swing states. How do you define that as not going for Trump? You could make the argume that the last time they weren't going for Biden, they just weren't going for Trump.

Trump continued to lose 15-20% of the vote to Haley months after she dropped out. She is now "barebones supporting" him (i.e., she's not out there pounding the table) to make sure she's positioned for 2028. The cope is thinking there is some overwhelming mandate to vote Trump into office. That doesn't exist.

Many of those were open primaries where strong Dems crossed over to vote for Haley in an effort to undermine Trump.

Most of those primaries were party affiliation only and did not have crossover votes. There are other avenues for you to gaslight, though.

The majority of states have either open primaries or allow unaffiliated voters to vote in either primary.

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In or out, this ad is fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that Trump isn’t in a courtroom, will see what the voters think as he continues on his tirades. Every time he speaks and tweets he reminds voters of how unhinged he is.

Did you actually watch the debate? It was reassuring how surprisingly composed he was, while Joe was committing public suicide.

I did. I also watch Trump, from 2016 all the way through now. You are going to tell me he is sane and not unhinged?

Any argument you could have made about not voting for Turnip because he wasn't sane and is unhinged flew out the window when it turned out Joe Biden is, well, not sane and a bit unhinged himself.

Yeah, no. Trump wants to totally subvert democracy and the right wing that is supporting him has a comprehensive plan to do it. They’ve already tried to overturn elections, overthrow the government and have thrown decades of precedent into the garbage. He’s a rapist and a convicted felon.

Biden is old. Trump is as old and has actual dementia.

What is subverting democracy? Pushing a senile old man with dementia for the presidency while pretending and gaslighting everyone that he's sharp as a tack? While the real decisions are made by a small circle of unelected advisors and family members? Is this what we mean by democracy?

Presidents always have advisors they rely on. There have been periods of time, most recently Ronald Reagan, when the president may not have been fully in charge. I don't see that with Biden, but clearly you do. But still, at the end of the day, allowing Trump into the White House means an alliance with Russia at the expense of NATO, the end of women managing their bodies, round-ups of brown people, "liberals" and anyone else that isn't the favored class.

Alexi Navalny is what you get when you have authoritarianism.

I'll take a bag of rocks before I accept that kind of tyranny in our country.

Yes. Advisors that they rely on. NOT advisors that are running the show. NOT advisors who make the decisions.

And, since you brought up Reagan......

Compare Reagan's final press conference of his presidency.... just a little over a month before he left office..... to any press conference by Biden.
There is no comparison. Reagan is in full command of the issues and can answer questions from any reporter - not just preselected ones.

What we have now with Biden's presidency is pure tyranny by unelected bureaucrats.

Tyranny? You're equal parts clown and drama queen. Even fellow MAGA on this board aren't taking you seriously. Just go hide in your bathroom from all this tyranny you're imagining. Maybe you're already there...

You speak for MAGA? That’s right- you are a democrat. You think you speak for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:In or out, this ad is fantastic.

Under God? Really? smh.

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But he doesn’t believe “one flag.” If he did, The Ugly Flag wouldn’t have been pasted all over the White House in June (last year, if not also this year)

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Yes, Joe will also bomb you with F-15s using nukes under that flag if you don't see things his way.

He loves bragging about that.

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Everyone needs to calm down because:

MAGAs, you were RIGHT! Biden has to step down. Sorry for not listening.

Dems, there's HOPE! Trump's own decline wil be evident next to a younger Dem who can talk in full sentences, not about toilets or sharks.

Everyone gets a little something. Biden enjoys retirement, MAGAs get to say "I told you so", Dem wins the White House, Trump goes to prison.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Joe will also bomb you with F-15s using nukes under that flag if you don't see things his way.

He loves bragging about that.

As if the nuke will only destroy the right wingers. A president who threatens to attack American citizens on American soil with nuclear weapons. That’s just great. What a guy.

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Anonymous wrote:In or out, this ad is fantastic.

Under God? Really? smh.

Joe said the only way he’ll step down,
is if God tells him to.

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Anonymous wrote:But he doesn’t believe “one flag.” If he did, The Ugly Flag wouldn’t have been pasted all over the White House in June (last year, if not also this year)

Not to mention our former embassy in Kabul. How did that work out?

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Anonymous wrote:Bipartisan ticket… Harris and Lynn Cheney?

If Democrats do stick with Biden or dissolve into civil war as they decide on someone new - which they will - an independent bid by Lynn Cheney could be very interesting. Very plausible path to the presidency for her in this chaotic situation. And it could finally break our deeply corrupt two party system.

You want even more wars?

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One America...except for approximately 50% of the country because "they not like us."