NYT story: Trump administration could strike abortion almost immediately using Comstock law

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.


No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.



I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.


+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.


WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.


This reminds me of Andrea Yates. She and her husband were both warned repeatedly by her doctors not to have more children, because of her history of PPD and psychosis. Her husband wouldn’t take no for an answer.
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There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


I would wager that the cost of abortion is not nearly as high as dealing with unwanted children.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


Birth control fails.

98 or 99% effective isn’t absolute.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


An embryo is not a baby. Birth control fails. Taxpayers do not pay for abortions.

Pregnancy poses potential danger for everyone who goes through it. Every pregnancy can have lifetime negative effects on the mother’s body. That is why it is up to her to decide if she is willing to go through a process that might kill her or hurt her body or cause psychological harm due to hormones out of whack.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.


No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.



I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.


+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.


WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.


If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.


There you go again with your “alternative sex” obsession again.


WTF does that even mean? Why would you call it an obsession? I simply point out that someone who is stressed and can’t have more kids shouldn’t have sex, and I have an “alternative sex” obsession? And what’s with the scare quotes?

And yes, I will keep repeating it, because clearly some people need to hear it. If you absolutely cannot have another baby, do not engage in activities that can end in pregnancy. You can scare quote or throw around accusations of obsession, or whatever insult you need to throw out there, but I am not wrong. And you know it - and it’s really pissing you off.

Which is even funnier because we’re both pro choice, I’m just not pro choice enough for you. Or something.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


An embryo is not a baby. Birth control fails. Taxpayers do not pay for abortions.

Pregnancy poses potential danger for everyone who goes through it. Every pregnancy can have lifetime negative effects on the mother’s body. That is why it is up to her to decide if she is willing to go through a process that might kill her or hurt her body or cause psychological harm due to hormones out of whack.


An embryo is a baby. It’s a stage of development that every baby goes through. We all go through stages of life.

Planned Parenthood receives taxpayer dollars. Money is fungible the taxpayer dollars are used to pay for things so PP has more money to do abortions. We all know this.

Pregnancy is a natural process that occurs in a woman’s body. It is not a disease. Women can prevent pregnancy. Birth control is more effective and reliable now, but abortions are increasing. With the reliable birth control available, abortion should be decreasing.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


Birth control fails.

98 or 99% effective isn’t absolute.


Using a condom and an IUD, implant, or pill would make pregnancy a miracle if it occurred.
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There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


I would wager that the cost of abortion is not nearly as high as dealing with unwanted children.


Using reliable birth control like an implant, pill, IUD, as well as a condom, would be the most cost effective option to avoid pregnancy, unwanted children, and abortion.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Yes you have said this like a million times.

There are a lot of children in foster care. What are YOU doing about THAT!???

As an adoptee myself, I am disgusted by people like who seemingly "care" about kids but only when they are able to control and demean and enslave women.

The actual real live BORN CHILDREN like me they can't be bothered to lift a finger to help.


Are you saying that all kids in foster care are unwanted pregnancies? I beg to differ.

And I’m not sure how what I do/don’t do for kids in foster care is relevant. If people don’t want to have kids, they shouldn’t have the type of sex that results in a pregnancy. It’s not hard.


OMG. “It’s not hard.”

What are you a robot? No human who understands humans would make such assertion.

A lot of red state men are gonna be up in arms if their partners suddenly tell them no sex.


You realize that there are like 50 other things you can do besides PIV sex?

And who cares. I’m 50 and in menopause. I managed to not get pregnant before I was married (boy not having sex! Imagine that!). I would think there are millions of women like me who have managed to avoid it as well.

And to answer your question, no I am not a robot. I am a fully functioning human who managed to not have sex so I would get pregnant for many many years.


You didn’t have sex until marriage? How old are you?

You shouldn’t be judging and making decisions for others based on your extremely limited knowledge.
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There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


I would wager that the cost of abortion is not nearly as high as dealing with unwanted children.


Using reliable birth control like an implant, pill, IUD, as well as a condom, would be the most cost effective option to avoid pregnancy, unwanted children, and abortion.


To avoid pregnancy most of the time.

There are a million reasons why a woman may need to end a pregnancy. She does not need to explain it to you. It’s her body.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


An embryo is not a baby. Birth control fails. Taxpayers do not pay for abortions.

Pregnancy poses potential danger for everyone who goes through it. Every pregnancy can have lifetime negative effects on the mother’s body. That is why it is up to her to decide if she is willing to go through a process that might kill her or hurt her body or cause psychological harm due to hormones out of whack.


An embryo is a baby. It’s a stage of development that every baby goes through. We all go through stages of life.

Planned Parenthood receives taxpayer dollars. Money is fungible the taxpayer dollars are used to pay for things so PP has more money to do abortions. We all know this.

Pregnancy is a natural process that occurs in a woman’s body. It is not a disease. Women can prevent pregnancy. Birth control is more effective and reliable now, but abortions are increasing. With the reliable birth control available, abortion should be decreasing.


It was decreasing for decades.

The GOP is making it increasingly difficult to obtain reliable birth control, including the healthcare (Planned Parenthood) required to access it.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.


No one is interested in your sex life. Do you always over share

So sad when someone can’t learn from their experience to have empathy with others. Wondering if you are by chance not neurotypical that you can’t empathize with others. I’m sorry for your limitations.



I’m not neurotypical because I think killing a fetus is disgusting? Interesting take.

I have empathy for women who will die if their fetus isn’t aborted. I have empathy for rape victims. I don’t have empathy for someone who “accidentally” gets pregnant but they’re about to start a new high paying job and a baby would just ruin things. Sorry - my empathy is for people who deserve it.


+1 would pp kill another of her children for her job? How would a new baby ruin the job? Pp will need childcare anyway. One more child to provide childcare for isn’t a life ruining experience. It’s just money vs her child’s life. Pp wants money more than her baby. Exactly as abortion statistics show: the majority of abortions are for convenience. It’s more convenient to have 2 kids vs 3 for her. He lifr isn’t in danger, she isn’t a rape victim.


WOW WOW WOW. The privilege.

How about a mother who is going to go berserk if she brings one more child into the world because of the pressures and stresses she is already under, who will get full-blown postpartum depression or psychosis and knows it, who will lose her job if she takes off all the sick leave that pregnancy requires and therefore lose her home, have her other children taken away from her? You are unbelievably clueless about the realities of people's lives. Elitists.


If she’s that stressed and absolutely can’t have one more child, she should not be having the type of sex that will possibly result in a child.

Great idea. How are you going to enforce this position as policy?


Republicans want to police sex. Shocker.


Any thinking individual would not want a woman to lose her job and children for sex when it’s possible to prevent pregnancy.

If the woman doesn’t care about her own existing children, mental health, and job, we as a society should do what? Ignore her impending catastrophic mental health crisis and put her kids in foster care?


Life is much more complicated than your limited comprehension. Bottom line - if you are unwilling or unable to under what other women are going through then leave them TF alone. Stop trying to see their lives through your simplistic lens.
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There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


I would wager that the cost of abortion is not nearly as high as dealing with unwanted children.


Using reliable birth control like an implant, pill, IUD, as well as a condom, would be the most cost effective option to avoid pregnancy, unwanted children, and abortion.


To avoid pregnancy most of the time.

There are a million reasons why a woman may need to end a pregnancy. She does not need to explain it to you. It’s her body.


I am a taxpayer and have been a taxpayer for decades. I pay my taxes voluntarily and also donate to multiple charities.

My tax dollars pay for abortion and birth control. I think if a woman has decided she wants to kill her healthy baby, she should not use taxpayer money to do so. I think if American taxpayers are paying for birth control and abortion rates are climbing, giving people free birth control is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

I see billboards daily that advertise free birth control delivered to your home in a confidential manner. Taxpayers are paying for the billboard, the birth control, the abortion, the home delivery. Abortion is increasing. Democrats expect us not to notice safe, legal, and rare is actually money laundering.
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


An embryo is not a baby. Birth control fails. Taxpayers do not pay for abortions.

Pregnancy poses potential danger for everyone who goes through it. Every pregnancy can have lifetime negative effects on the mother’s body. That is why it is up to her to decide if she is willing to go through a process that might kill her or hurt her body or cause psychological harm due to hormones out of whack.


An embryo is a baby. It’s a stage of development that every baby goes through. We all go through stages of life.

Planned Parenthood receives taxpayer dollars. Money is fungible the taxpayer dollars are used to pay for things so PP has more money to do abortions. We all know this.

Pregnancy is a natural process that occurs in a woman’s body. It is not a disease. Women can prevent pregnancy. Birth control is more effective and reliable now, but abortions are increasing. With the reliable birth control available, abortion should be decreasing.


It was decreasing for decades.

The GOP is making it increasingly difficult to obtain reliable birth control, including the healthcare (Planned Parenthood) required to access it.



Are you pretending that Planned Parenthood is the sole provider for birth control in the US?
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Anonymous wrote:There really is a lot of nuance here. I am 100% pro-choice. But I think using abortion as a method of birth control is simply disgusting. Unfortunately, there’s too much nuance to write it into the law. People will say “only if it’s medically necessary” and then they’ll be 10,000 reasons why something is medically necessary, or 10,000 reasons why it is not medically necessary. Unfortunately the only option is to make 100% legal in any case. Because you end up punishing the people who really need it if you try to put conditions on it.

I continue to be pro choice (and always will), but people who about babies simply because they don’t want them are disgusting to me.


Are you a woman who knows firsthand the consequences of pregnancy on your body both during and after pregnancy?

Let’s say you have just received the opportunity of a lifetime, something that would lead to all sorts of fantastic things for you and your family, you already have 3 kids who are all in school, you are 42 years old with a history of difficult pregnancies, and then your husband’s vasectomy fails and you find yourself accidentally pregnant which would derail your excellent once-in-a lifetime opportunity. You think it’s disgusting for a woman in such a situation to decide at 6 weeks to take medication to end that pregnancy?

The “simply because they don’t want them” is such a disingenuous argument. Easy to make when you have no f’n clue what a woman or girl might be facing.


Hahahahahaha. I have two children. Had very difficult pregnancies. So please, spare me your “you have no idea what you’re talking about” BS.

Yes. I 100% think it’s disgusting. I would personally never do that. I had sex. I got pregnant. I would have the baby.

My husband and I did many other things besides PIV sex to assure that I didn’t get pregnant when I didn’t want to. Is it easy? Not really. But we did it. We made it fun. No regrets.



How tiresome and self righteous you are.

That is what is disgusting.


I mean we’re all entitled to our opinions. You think I’m disgusting because I never had an abortion. I think people who have had abortions simply because they don’t want a baby are disgusting.

Really, in the grand scheme of things, neither of our opinions make a difference. We both want the right to choose.



Again, that's not what is disgusting. Your blind judgment is disgusting. I have never had an abortion either -- but all my closest circle of friends have.

Many of your friends have as well, but I imagine they keep that from you.


Mind your own reproductive decisions.

And get TF out of my vagina.


Nobody cares about your vagina. The baby you don’t care about is your own son or daughter, and has no one to care for him or her. Birth control is your vagina’s bff. Society doesn’t have the unlimited capacity to deal with your unwanted children or unlimited taxpayer money to pay for your abortions.


An embryo is not a baby. Birth control fails. Taxpayers do not pay for abortions.

Pregnancy poses potential danger for everyone who goes through it. Every pregnancy can have lifetime negative effects on the mother’s body. That is why it is up to her to decide if she is willing to go through a process that might kill her or hurt her body or cause psychological harm due to hormones out of whack.


An embryo is a baby. It’s a stage of development that every baby goes through. We all go through stages of life.

Planned Parenthood receives taxpayer dollars. Money is fungible the taxpayer dollars are used to pay for things so PP has more money to do abortions. We all know this.

Pregnancy is a natural process that occurs in a woman’s body. It is not a disease. Women can prevent pregnancy. Birth control is more effective and reliable now, but abortions are increasing. With the reliable birth control available, abortion should be decreasing.


It was decreasing for decades.

The GOP is making it increasingly difficult to obtain reliable birth control, including the healthcare (Planned Parenthood) required to access it.



Are you pretending that Planned Parenthood is the sole provider for birth control in the US?


No you are with your taxpayer bs.
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